Beta players! Do you like the direction the game is going with Summerset?

Sheezabeast · April 2018

Everyone who has played since the beginning, I'm wondering, do you like the direction the game is going with all the changes coming to the base game with Summerset?

Vahrokh · April 2018

F) other

I don't care. ZOS talked about deep gameplay rebalance / redo and I don't see it.
I see tweaks but tweaks don't bring back the old, fun and diverse gaming experience we enjoyed back in 2014.

The first sign of a real change will be proved when we see "generalist" skills (for example, weapon skills) taking the backburner vs class skills. So far we have spent years seeing class skills getting nerfed and diluted, classes getting similar to the point you could confuse some classes with similar spec if you login the wrong character by mistake.

Benemime · April 2018

F) other

The game still is very limited by races. You want to be competitive, a decent magsorc? High elf is the way to go, then after a cliff there's dunmers and bretons, that's it. If you don't see yourself in those races (or simply don't like them) and still want to be a mage, you are screwed.

FloppyTouch · April 2018

F) other

I'm starting to play a new game more if that has anything to say about the direction of this game

zaria · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

Benemime wrote: »

The game still is very limited by races. You want to be competitive, a decent magsorc? High elf is the way to go, then after a cliff there's dunmers and bretons, that's it. If you don't see yourself in those races (or simply don't like them) and still want to be a mage, you are screwed.

This however is not an summerset issue but dates back to soft cap getting removed and the racial passives dates back to beta and they only survived beta because the soft caps.

outside the Morrowind nerfs I say the direction has been good, returned around homestead so do not know about older stuff

Turelus · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

Change is painful and I know I am going to have some areas of this update I hate.
However the last two years I have been pretty happy with the direction ZOS has taken ESO. They seem to finally have an idea what they want the game to be and how they want to achieve that going forward. It's nice to see after the first two years was basically fixing all the mistakes made at launch (no stamina morphs etc.)

My biggest worry is yet more reliance on light attack weaving being the core gameplay mechanic. I am not against animation cancelling etc. but if you're basing an entire game around the ability to shoot light attacks between every skill (and still not explaining that in the tutorial) it's going to only make the gap between the best and the normal players bigger.

It's also not a combat system which favours those with disabilities.

Palidon · April 2018

C) Very uneasy about some of the changes, Zos is stabbing in the dark

I for one am sick and tired of ZOS's changes to skills. A player works hard to build his or her's character around their chosen race and skill lines. Then ZOS changes everything and that player has to redo what they have done to adapt to the changes. I think for me it is time to just give this game a long break. A fresh start with another game seems to be the best course of action where I am concerned. Remember folks this massive skill change decision by ZOS will happen again later down the road. If you don't believe me look back at ZOS's history of changing race skills and passives. Also most likely another change in the CP system is coming.

GrigorijMalahevich · April 2018

D) Confident in Zos, this will be great, I have no anxiety about the changes

as long as two hand weapons are _finally_ considered as two items from a set - I don't care about anything else

Bashev · April 2018

I dont like how ZOS do the balancing. Waiting a year for a balancing is too much. I prefer small tweaks in short periods. I am not talking about creating new skills or drastically change the functionality of the skill.

Also when ZOS do a balance update, they just pick some skill lines and make changes there. They dont balance the whole picture at the same time.

Aurielle · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

I refused to play ESO after beta was done due to all the issues I encountered during testing. I pre-ordered Summerset... That should tell you all you need to know.

I'm thrilled that my magsorc can finally use Illambris, and that my magblade doesn't have to choose between having a set bonus active on her backbar and being able to use the destro ult. The nerf to Empower does sting, though...

Elsterchen · April 2018

E) I'm waiting with baited breath for the PTS before I lose my ****

Very happy and hyped about some changes:
1) jewellery crafting
2) jewellery crafting!
3) beeing able to craft my own ... jewellery !
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other (still high priority, just no match to jewellery crafting ) PVP changes (all of them!), new PVE content

Extremely mindboggeled about other changes:
1) 2H weapons counting as 2 slots -> don't get me wrong, I really really think the 2nd setboni is long overdue for 2H playstile but I sincerely hope there is more to come (for stam users) or we will be back to mag-meta. Till now the extra damage of 2H weapons was justified by the trade-off in using only 1 5-piece set. As it stands now, there is no trade off to using 2H weapons, yet they receive extra damage (counting for all 2H weapons). If there is nothing more to come wealding a staff will give you dps on par (edit: remember new scaling of damage and on par is the rather conservative assumtion!)with dual wield, while using 2 5-piece setboni and having the luxury of a better sustain (edit: still havin the luxury of a seperate pool of ressources for all damage and defence related activities at no cost when looking at damage avoidance (blocking, dodging).

I know we will have to see how all this plays out and what other changes may come, but currently I am very sceptical I will welcome this change (keep in mind: I do cherish the basic idea of this thought, I just don't expect this idea to be put in game to a stamplars (DW) satisfaction)

Very disappointed about other changes:
Templar combat balancing is a joke, right? nuff said

Esha76 · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

I have been playing, with only one or two small breaks, since early beta. However, I don't PvP, and I rarely do dungeon or trial content. So my thoughts on the direction probably mean very little to the majority of people.

As usual, some changes I really like, some not so much based on what I have read at this time. But again, I assume you also made this poll mostly with trials, dungeons, and PvP content in mind.

Faulgor · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

I don't see any base game changes that are upsetting in any way.

Except for probably losing the glowing eyes on Bound Aegis. WTH, ZOS?

Edziu · April 2018

erm...this game was great arounr 1.6 patch, before one tamriel..and then morrowind hit...this was for me the biggest nail into coffin for eso, next nail is with those planned summerset changes.....many things in it should be long time ago like just simply nb shade no needed target to cast him or just jewerly crafting....now if this will released this not only will be behind paywal where even eso+ dont help you here but as new traits will be here....

many can just use scrolls from crowns store which will be pure p2w as we was able to see those new traits for jewerly and how those can make many changes in pve and pvp specially, this wont be that big problem if there would be no scrolls to faster research, some new traits are really noticable

I just remeber 1st dlc orsinium and after this IC..this is that big as "expansions" but those are dlc...and if ZOS will implement those today we will have it as "expansions" (orsinium and IC)

since one tamriel if not earlier ZOS started heading in wrong direction of this game with even simple balance
thats why I from hardcore endgame and pvp players I just stopped playing after morrowind release and now just loging sometimes for casual playing just for graphic and TES world here because wow worlds is other and graphic isnt that great like here xD, thats all

starkerealm · April 2018

E) I'm waiting with baited breath for the PTS before I lose my ****

As one of the few who's actually played with the Summerset balance changes, I'm really ****ing excited. The changes, as a whole, feel really good. Also, build options really are a lot more open. I was trying some bonkers stuff on a whim, and basically managing to make it work (with some limitations). So, yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting more time with these changes.

Tandor · April 2018

D) Confident in Zos, this will be great, I have no anxiety about the changes

I wasn't in the beta, but have played continuously since PC launch.

I'm fine with all the past changes that have been made, most I've barely noticed and none has impacted on me adversely. I've followed the logic behind them, and although I was perfectly happy with the original state of the game there's no doubt it's been greatly improved since then. I'm totally relaxed about the forthcoming changes although I haven't studied them in detail yet as I prefer to judge them in the game rather than based on what other people have read about things that haven't even gone on test yet.

Kendaric · April 2018

We'll have to wait and see once Summerset hits the PTS. It's too early to judge the changes, even with the information we have.

Narvuntien · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

Well 2 of my characters are dead and 2 of my characters are getting much needed buffs.

Dead might be a bit of an exaggeration, game keeps trying to force me to play PVP fairly lol

, when all I want to do is one shot from stealth. My build has been completely gutted 3 times now.. and so far I have always found another way.

I also wanted to make a Stamden Healer but the sub assault and sunderflame changes means its not going to work.... for PVE.... but my experience in PVP shows it has some potential there.
I am running around doing 200K damage and 180K healing in battlegrounds matches
(level 37 I know it scales but I am out leveling my gear quickly)

Aebaradath · April 2018

F) other

All they have to do is bring back old Doshia and Mannimarco and I'll be happy.

Maybe add OP mudcrabs back too.

Turelus · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

Narvuntien wrote: »

Dead might be a bit of an exaggeration, game keeps trying to force me to play PVP fairly lol , when all I want to do is one shot from stealth. My build has been completely gutted 3 times now.. and so far I have always found another way.

Not with these forums, it's a fact of life here. RIP everything.

srfrogg23 · April 2018

D) Confident in Zos, this will be great, I have no anxiety about the changes

I’m fine with it so far. Heck, I stopped playing for a good few years and didn’t get interested again until 1T and CPs were introduced. Back in the “Veteran Rank” days, I just hit max level and got terribly bored...

I have liked the changes, and I think it will be ok as long as they don’t go too crazy.

knaveofengland · April 2018

i have came back after very long break , have not voted , its like any game when you had enough you move on any play another , its like anything else , it does matter if players are happy or not , reason we see so many throw rattle out of prams cage ,.

would say if you like the game does it really matter what other players are saying , i say play and enjoy , all mmos suffer the same fate with bugs , balancing , new content , you all have to remember any content will have bugs and issues , some cant be fixed and has to be atrade off .and some bugs will take many many months .

also players will try to find better ways of doing anything and this is where exploits can happen , its like first person shooters some can shoot others cant hit a barn door .

now do you feel happy you have had your say .i say so never mind the ######## god save the queen .

wish you all well

DoonerSeraph · April 2018

Not voting since i'm not a beta player. But I'll leave my 2 cents anyway. I'm cautiously optimist, but a bit worried. There is a LOT of changes, they are trying to make roles more homogeneous without killing the identity of each class, no easy task. People will be bummed since some will have to grind sets again, but thats just how it is on a MMO.

If I had a say on how things are done on ESO, I would ask to keep 2 PTS servers always open (one with character imports from NA and other from EU) and keep those with 1 or 2 patches ahead of the live server, then implement those changes bit by bit, so they can collect feedback as things are going, instead of just doing a lot of changes and dumping them on the playerbase that can easily feel overwhelmed. I believe 1 or 2 weeks are enough for people to test one change at time.

Jim_Pipp · April 2018

A) I admit it, I'm nervous.

Beta players have spent more than 4 years theorycrafting builds that get "broken" by updates. The next set of changes are complex, lots of big changes and lots of small changes that will indirectly buff and nerf sets (NMG vs spriggans), skills (Funnel health + Healing dark cloak in one build?) and builds (heavy attack builds may disappear).

I am not going to make any new builds until Summerset goes live and the changes are finalised, but honestly I am starting to trust ZOS's vision. I feel like the game is immeasurably better than beta, and I commend ZOS for making a game that I enjoy more after 4 years of playing regularly.

FakeFox · April 2018

C) Very uneasy about some of the changes, Zos is stabbing in the dark

I think the ideas behind those changes are good, however the execution is just lazy.
Buffing two-handed weapons makes sense, but giving them two set bonuses is lazy and takes away all originality. Now all builds will play similar set layouts no matter what weapon.
Bringing Stam and Mag more in line is absolutely necessary, but removing buffsets, a great and interesting mechanic, in order to achieve that is just stupid.

SorataArisugawa · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

FakeFox wrote: »

I think the ideas behind those changes are good, however the execution is just lazy.
Buffing two-handed weapons makes sense, but giving them two set bonuses is lazy and takes away all originality. Now all builds will play similar set layouts no matter what weapon.
Bringing Stam and Mag more in line is absolutely necessary, but removing buffsets, a great and interesting mechanic, in order to achieve that is just stupid.

No it is not.
It opends up so much possibilities. And I am looking extremly forward to this (nearly since the start of my "endgame" in this game, so at lest 3 years) There. Is. no. reason. why. only. stamina. should. wear. 3. full. sets(5-5-2)! Period.

FakeFox · April 2018

C) Very uneasy about some of the changes, Zos is stabbing in the dark

SorataArisugawa wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

I think the ideas behind those changes are good, however the execution is just lazy.
Buffing two-handed weapons makes sense, but giving them two set bonuses is lazy and takes away all originality. Now all builds will play similar set layouts no matter what weapon.
Bringing Stam and Mag more in line is absolutely necessary, but removing buffsets, a great and interesting mechanic, in order to achieve that is just stupid.

No it is not.
It opends up so much possibilities. And I am looking extremly forward to this (nearly since the start of my "endgame" in this game, so at lest 3 years) There. Is. no. reason. why. only. stamina. should. wear. 3. full. sets(5-5-2)! Period.

Ok, but there is also no reason why everybody should wear the same layout no matter what build you are playing. It leads to far less complexity in build choices. Different builds having different strengths and weaknesses, creates diversity, not every build having the same strengths and weaknesses.

By. the. way. you. have. a. very. pleasant. writing. style.

Aurielle · April 2018

Change is good, going the right direction, not worried

FakeFox wrote: »

SorataArisugawa wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

I think the ideas behind those changes are good, however the execution is just lazy.
Buffing two-handed weapons makes sense, but giving them two set bonuses is lazy and takes away all originality. Now all builds will play similar set layouts no matter what weapon.
Bringing Stam and Mag more in line is absolutely necessary, but removing buffsets, a great and interesting mechanic, in order to achieve that is just stupid.

No it is not.
It opends up so much possibilities. And I am looking extremly forward to this (nearly since the start of my "endgame" in this game, so at lest 3 years) There. Is. no. reason. why. only. stamina. should. wear. 3. full. sets(5-5-2)! Period.

Ok, but there is also no reason why everybody should wear the same layout no matter what build you are playing. It leads to far less complexity in build choices. Different builds having different strengths and weaknesses, creates diversity, not every build having the same strengths and weaknesses.

By. the. way. you. have. a. very. pleasant. writing. style.

How will every build have the "same strengths and weaknesses" simply because 2H/Staff/Bow users now have the option for 5-5-2? My pet sorc will use MA/Necro/Illambris after the update. My Magblade will likely continue wearing War Maiden/Vicious Death/Zaan (PVP) and MA/BSW/Illambris (PVE). Having the option to use monster sets while retaining 5 set bonuses opens up all sorts of possibilities for those of us who've had to go without all these years. It's even going to shake up the healer meta! For the first time ever, my healer gets to wear a full monster set!

mb10 · April 2018

LOL Why on EARTH is this targetted towards beta players only?

I played the beta but my opinion doesnt weigh more than those who didnt or those who joined recently.

Youre not "elite" because you played the beta, stop attention seeking and ask the community for their opinion with equal respect.

tinythinker · April 2018

F) other

mb10 wrote: »

LOL Why on EARTH is this targetted towards beta players only?

I played the beta but my opinion doesnt weigh more than those who didnt or those who joined recently.

Youre not "elite" because you played the beta, stop attention seeking and ask the community for their opinion with equal respect.

Doesn't have to be about elitism, could just be about perspective.

Minno · April 2018

Changes in Summerset will be a buff if you play casually or play constantly outside the meta line with constant theorycrafting but willl be a Nerf if you constantly only play one aspect of play or play with a limited build that excels with certain gear/skills.

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