No, and i personally find, if you play regularly this Game, you should sub, this should be mandatory, you get a lot of content in this MMO and should support it. Also, with youre sub you get Crowns, so win/win.

No Get the sub !

Yes, if reasonably priced. I would buy the entire craft bag access for just 2k crowns but for like 5k a piece? That's just stupid and a waste of money, just like how the sub is a waste of money because why should I keep paying for something that I should have access to in the beginning?

Jusey1 wrote: »

DirkRavenclaw wrote: »

No, and i personally find, if you play regularly this Game, you should sub, this should be mandatory, you get a lot of content in this MMO and should support it. Also, with youre sub you get Crowns, so win/win.

Except it is cheaper to just buy the crowns directly and purchase the DLCs once forever, then to keep giving Zenimax your money. The only real benefit of subbing is the crafting bag, which isn't that useful for the most part. It is just there to be convenience and nothing more. Something which the player should be able to unlock by playing the game, not by paying, but I am willing to pay for it if I only need to make one payment to it instead of constantly paying money to Zenimax for the "privilege" having such a convenience.

Oh how wrong you are....
- ESO is one of only 2 successful Buy to Plays. So the fact that they have made it work speaks volumes. Its also the 3rd largest MMO. Again, they must be doing something right.
- When you have the Craft Bag, you loot everything all the time. So when I decide I need to do something, like make Tri Pots, or level Alchemy, its amazing how much less of a chore that is because I have everything I need plus exta.
- ESO has a staff to support the game, fix bugs make improvements. I personally like having those people there. To keep them there, and keep them loving there job, they need money. I am perfectly fine spending $15 a month for new chapters once a year, and new DLC ever couple months and to keep the classes balanced. No it isn't perfect, but considering I main a Altmer Warden tank for all content. My 2nd is a DK Healer all content. 3rd is a Orc Bowden, so far only up to a 30k parse. Race only makes a 0.1% difference at least as long as you stick to one of the top 5 choice for your build. I think they are doing a pretty good job of that too.
- If Craft Bag was purchasable, the number is people who subscribe would drop significantly. So paying for the "privilege" of this "convenience" is exactly the kind of thing they should charge for. Just the same as having the "privilege" of making my character wear fancy costumes which have no usefulness what so ever is exactly the kind of thing to charge for as well. Especially considering the alternative is a Pay to Win model

It wont happen as it is the biggest benefit of ESO+

No. If you want it, you need to sub.

Whiphid wrote: »

Stop this already. As said everyone will drop subs.
The only way to make up for that is when price is 2-3 years of sub, so like 50k crowns.

Or give it to all accounts, then make subs mandatory again.

No no no! Spending a small amount every now and then for a game I play hours upon hours everyday should be good enough! /sarcasm

Sure. It would kill the sub and hurt ZOS' revenue, but it would save me money and keep me more active in the game. Right now I sub a few month a year and don't play the other months because I am a hoarder, inventory management is crap, and there are only 2 narrative based DLC a year. I currently have 9k crowns and that will just increase each time I sub because I have zero interest in cosmetics.

Enslaved wrote: »

Yes, if separated into different sections.

• alchemy
• blacksmithing
• clothing
• enchanting
• fishing
• housing
• jewelrycrafting
• provisioning
• woodworking

Each category would cost 3-5k crowns.

Where would the mats for traits and motifs go? There are a lot of those. Additional sections?

This issue enrages me so much. I would actually be happier if the ONLY thing you got from the ESO+ sub is the crafting bag... They could call it "Crafting Bag Unlimited", LOL.

Then ZOS would at least have to be HONEST about what they are selling.

Same old question. Same old debate. It'll end the same old way.

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I'll post here some thoughts I had when they first announced the ESO+ crafting bag, which I posted in several threads at the time. I had discontinued plus on console, after having been subscribed continuously since early access on PC. I dropped plus for about a year due to the issues with the service on XB (missing crowns every month, frequent loss of access to plus benefits, including DLC). I purchased all the DLC at the time, except IC, at FULL PRICE - there was no Guilds & Glory pack then. I resubbed when Homestead launched and I've been happy ever since (and, thankfully, haven't had any more issues with Plus).

In any event, it's highly unlikely that they would remove this perk from Plus, as many folks have already mentioned it's their main reason for subbing and ZOS would have to come up with something just as good to replace it, considering they've already removed one DLC/year from the service, and last year, we only got 2 DLCs. So, I'll offer some ideas I had at the time for a lesser crafting bag for non-plus members.

If the crafting bag would be offered as a one-time purchase, there is no way it would be unlimited. It would have to be limited in some way. Some ideas I had were to break up the crafting professions so that you would purchase separate bags for each, and they'd be limited and take up a bank slot. While the mats would be accessible for crafting, they would not be accessible for writ turn- in, nor would mats automatically go to the bag when harvesting. Now, I know a lot of non-plus folks wouldn't be happy with that, but let's face it - ZOS aren't going to remove it from plus and if you don't want to pay for plus but still want to have a crafting bag, a one-time purchase for what Plus members get would have to be extremely pricey - like AT LEAST a year's worth of ESO+. Thus, the alternative of having a lesser option available for purchase. It has to be not as good as the plus bag - so limited capacity and limited functionality. Even if it's just one bag that holds all craft materials, it would still have to have a much lower limit and not have the same functionality -e.g. items don't go directly to it.

Or, there may be other ways to limit it. But I think it would be a better conversation to come up with ideas on a non-plus version of the bag, rather than asking them to remove it from plus. We all know that's the main draw for the service - it is for me, since only one DLC a year interests me now, since they're going to 2 dungeon DLCs and one story DLC a year. The extra bank space and house slots are also good perks to me, but without the bag, I think I could live without the rest and would likely cancel.

Yes, having the crafting bag outside of ESO plus would certainly be beneficial to everyone in terms of their own wallet, but not to ZOS in terms of their bottom line. So, asking them to remove the bag and lose a lot of subs would be too costly for them to do. Rather, if there was a way to offer a crafting bag of lesser quality that would generate additional revenue but keep subs, that would be a more plausible suggestion to ZOS. Even then, cost and functionality would have to be such that it wouldn't be too enticing for folks to drop their sub, but enticing enough that folks who refuse to sub would want to purchase it.

TL:DR - ZOS more than likely won't remove the bag from Plus due to loss of many subs. Alternative is to offer crafting bag of lesser quality for direct purchase to those who refuse to sub.

Yes, if they sold the craft bags by crafting profession on the store for a reasonable (3-5k) price. Subs keep the game running, so gotta supliment that loss of income somehow.