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It's happening: All 2HD weapons will count as 2 set items

  • RANKK7
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    Thanks a lot for the Link!
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    "I really don't know who the **** came off with this change. Definitely somebody who does not play the game, that's for sure".
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  • mb10
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    Where are all the people who said it was a dead horse topic??

    WHERE ARE YOU NOW AND WHERE ARE YOUR MEMES??
  • Illurian
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    I WAS ABOUT TO POST THIS WITH THE SAME TITLE!

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  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Night Mother’s Gaze & Sunderflame now grant Major Breach/Fracture as their 5 Sets - and no longer stack with the same buff.

    This basically turns both of these sets into solo sets, and takes them out of the PvE Trials rotation. On paper, this felt like it’d be a massive nerf to Stamina users in Trial groups, but based on parse data from our initial testing, it may not necessarily be as bad as we first thought. We still suggested to Eric that he adjusts one of these sets (or possibly redesign Hircine’s Veneer) to still offer at least one stacking penetration buff/debuff set of some sort - so we’ll wait and see what happens.

    Deadly Cloak has had its damage reduced by 40%.

    This is a noticeable nerf, but it’s hard to say whether it will really ruin the skill. Stamina builds are still pulling insane damage in parses with it slotted and used, and this skill was more useful for the mitigation than its damage anyway. More testing needed.

    RIP Stam :(
  • Kodrac
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    mb10 wrote: »
    Where are all the people who said it was a dead horse topic??

    WHERE ARE YOU NOW AND WHERE ARE YOUR MEMES??

    itsalive.jpg
    Edited by Kodrac on April 3, 2018 3:08PM
  • nooblox85
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  • Kanar
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    Terrible idea. 2h doesn't need this, it needs other buffs. Won't help 2h compete with DW at all. It's also irrelevant for bow, because vMA bow and if you go bow/bow then you're using master's + vMA.

    It's obviously a buff for staff users.
  • Chaos2088
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    OMFG!!!! -makes high pitched noise-
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  • starkerealm
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    Night Mother’s Gaze & Sunderflame now grant Major Breach/Fracture as their 5 Sets - and no longer stack with the same buff.

    This basically turns both of these sets into solo sets, and takes them out of the PvE Trials rotation. On paper, this felt like it’d be a massive nerf to Stamina users in Trial groups, but based on parse data from our initial testing, it may not necessarily be as bad as we first thought. We still suggested to Eric that he adjusts one of these sets (or possibly redesign Hircine’s Veneer) to still offer at least one stacking penetration buff/debuff set of some sort - so we’ll wait and see what happens.

    Deadly Cloak has had its damage reduced by 40%.

    This is a noticeable nerf, but it’s hard to say whether it will really ruin the skill. Stamina builds are still pulling insane damage in parses with it slotted and used, and this skill was more useful for the mitigation than its damage anyway. More testing needed.

    RIP Stam :(

    Stam is pulling even more insane parses now, Gil, @alcast, and (I think) Ryan were all over 70k by the end of the weekend.
  • Cadbury
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    Kanar wrote: »

    It's obviously a buff for staff users.

    Which was sorely needed for us mag players imo
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  • Huyen
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    Funny how alcast is once more invited...
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  • BrockofPercival
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    This is something that should have been the case from day 1 of sets. It simply makes sense and then you don't get tons of 'fair' 'not fair' arguments.
  • Nihility42
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    Kanar wrote: »
    Terrible idea. 2h doesn't need this, it needs other buffs. Won't help 2h compete with DW at all. It's also irrelevant for bow, because vMA bow and if you go bow/bow then you're using master's + vMA.

    It's obviously a buff for staff users.

    It'll be great for 2H in PVP, which is where 2H is really designed to be used.
  • Iselin
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    This is something that should have been the case from day 1 of sets. It simply makes sense and then you don't get tons of 'fair' 'not fair' arguments.

    Amen... begone you silly weekly polls! :)
  • SirAndy
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    RIP dual wield, everybody grab a wooden stick and put on a pretty skirt!
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  • Alcast
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    Night Mother’s Gaze & Sunderflame now grant Major Breach/Fracture as their 5 Sets - and no longer stack with the same buff.

    This basically turns both of these sets into solo sets, and takes them out of the PvE Trials rotation. On paper, this felt like it’d be a massive nerf to Stamina users in Trial groups, but based on parse data from our initial testing, it may not necessarily be as bad as we first thought. We still suggested to Eric that he adjusts one of these sets (or possibly redesign Hircine’s Veneer) to still offer at least one stacking penetration buff/debuff set of some sort - so we’ll wait and see what happens.

    Deadly Cloak has had its damage reduced by 40%.

    This is a noticeable nerf, but it’s hard to say whether it will really ruin the skill. Stamina builds are still pulling insane damage in parses with it slotted and used, and this skill was more useful for the mitigation than its damage anyway. More testing needed.

    RIP Stam :(

    Stam is pulling even more insane parses now, Gil, @alcast, and (I think) Ryan were all over 70k by the end of the weekend.

    That is no the problem. Like in Asylum, the moment targets start moving stam DPS goes into the river.
    Edited by Alcast on April 3, 2018 4:45PM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    RIP dual wield, everybody grab a wooden stick and put on a pretty skirt!
    sad.gif

    Sticks and swords lol
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Was about time :smile:
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  • SodanTok
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    :'( Tear for every poster that did everything in his power to make this 'feature request' dead horse just because they didnt like it

    The horse survived
    Edited by SodanTok on April 3, 2018 4:59PM
  • Violynne
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    RIP Stam :(
    A bit melodramatic, don't you think?

    Why do people insist on pulling out only parts of the overall news and decry one section as being the "destroyer" of anything good?

    I would suggest you read *all* the news and realize most invitees have agreed this is one of the best balance releases to ESO they've seen so far.

    RIP Stam? Hardly.

    My hope is hybrids can become viable. They're long, long overdue for a shot in this game.

  • IV_Deity
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    Kanar wrote: »
    Terrible idea. 2h doesn't need this, it needs other buffs. Won't help 2h compete with DW at all. It's also irrelevant for bow, because vMA bow and if you go bow/bow then you're using master's + vMA.

    It's obviously a buff for staff users.

    ??? It will definitely help with 2H users. If you're not running 1 Piece set weapons then this is very beneficial....
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