Maintenance for the week of April 13:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
[Summerset DLC] Can I kill queen ayreen as an Imperial? (Warning: Heavy lore/story)
DeltaForce64x
✭✭✭
do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:09PM [Edit for profanity]
6
-
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Judging by past experience, you will be railroaded into being helpful aka following the established plot. ZOS has not ever given us the ability to meaningfully choose to oppose the written plotline, so no siding with the Iron Wheel, the Order of the Hour, the Worm Cult, etc. I don't expect that to change.4 -
DeltaForce64x✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Judging by past experience, you will be railroaded into being helpful aka following the established plot. ZOS has not ever given us the ability to meaningfully choose to oppose the written plotline, so no siding with the Iron Wheel, the Order of the Hour, the Worm Cult, etc. I don't expect that to change.
Yes sadly this is true. Thats why I said its not a true elder scrolls game. In oblivion/Skyrim we were able to do choices in story that actually impacts and/or changes things , sure ESO is a MMO but I still love to see some meaningfull storyline. I got tired helping people randomly I just want to do something big and good.
Unfortunately this not going to happen, I just have to wait 7-8 years for next elder scrolls game I guess, its only 7-8 years. right?Edited by DeltaForce64x on April 2, 2018 11:07PM1 -
Radinyn✭✭✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
[Edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:10PM12 -
DeltaForce64x✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
She is high elf, she is the leader of the Thalmor and the Dominion, that makes her enemy of the state/tamriel in my book.
Just like the Ulffic Stormcloak aka the sleeper agent/asset of the Dominion(proof can be found in Thalmor embassy dossiers), Queen Ayrenn also have to die.
One must exterminate the evil before he/she gets more bigger threat, otherwise the threat will grow bigger like a snake and can and would break one's neck. I do not care the past, I care the current, I'm loyal to the Imperial Empire as a whole regardless the leader/emperor, and I can do anything to protect the greater good. Empire is my home, its my love and its my enemy, both from the outside or the inside.
Now, if you done reading my *** reply(I really hope you didn't), I should go continue to redownloading ESO.
Empire. *** yeah.
[Edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:11PM2 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
She is high elf, she is the leader of the Thalmor and the Dominion, that makes her enemy of the state/tamriel in my book.
Just like the Ulffic Stormcloak aka the sleeper agent/asset of the Dominion(proof can be found in Thalmor embassy dossiers), Queen Ayrenn also have to die.
ESO is like 600-800 years before all that. Heck, one of the questlines you do for Ayrenn in Auridon is beating up the Thalmor/Veiled Heritance for being jerks.
[Edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:12PM5 -
DeltaForce64x✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
She is high elf, she is the leader of the Thalmor and the Dominion, that makes her enemy of the state/tamriel in my book.
Just like the Ulffic Stormcloak aka the sleeper agent/asset of the Dominion(proof can be found in Thalmor embassy dossiers), Queen Ayrenn also have to die.
ESO is like 600-800 years before all that. Heck, one of the questlines you do for Ayrenn in Auridon is beating up the Thalmor/Veiled Heritance for being jerks.
It is current to me.
[Edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:12PM0 -
Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
She is high elf, she is the leader of the Thalmor and the Dominion, that makes her enemy of the state/tamriel in my book.
Just like the Ulffic Stormcloak aka the sleeper agent/asset of the Dominion(proof can be found in Thalmor embassy dossiers), Queen Ayrenn also have to die.
ESO is like 600-800 years before all that. Heck, one of the questlines you do for Ayrenn in Auridon is beating up the Thalmor/Veiled Heritance for being jerks.
It is current to me.
That's like time traveling and persecuting people for events that havnt happened yet. The thalmor arnt even the *** they are in the 4th era yet
{edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:12PM9 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I always enjoy kiling her and Raz in the Circus of Cheerful Slaughter quest.Edited by TequilaFire on April 3, 2018 12:44AM4 -
SpiderKnight✭✭✭✭✭
✭"basically non-lore/story", "the leader of the Thalmor"
Edited by SpiderKnight on April 3, 2018 1:12AM17 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
She is high elf, she is the leader of the Thalmor and the Dominion, that makes her enemy of the state/tamriel in my book.
Just like the Ulffic Stormcloak aka the sleeper agent/asset of the Dominion(proof can be found in Thalmor embassy dossiers), Queen Ayrenn also have to die.
ESO is like 600-800 years before all that. Heck, one of the questlines you do for Ayrenn in Auridon is beating up the Thalmor/Veiled Heritance for being jerks.
1000 before Skyrim.
[Edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:13PM1 -
SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tiber Septim (Talos) hasn't even been born yet. (We're in the 6th century of the 2nd Era, and Tiber is supposedly born in the 9th).
There are a few quests pertaining to the Imperials, but it's only like one per final zone. (not sure if the Rift has Imperials, but Reaper's March and Bangkorai both have a questline containing Imperial fighters.
But no, you can't kill Ayrenn. Maybe you can help one of the factions better your Empire, seeing as how Imperials were the ones who brought the Empire crumbling down. Emperor Leovic was doing a fine job of ruling Tamriel before Varen Aquilarios started his weak-kneed rebellion. You want to fight anyone, fight him.PC - NACP 1125
Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC2 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that [snip] queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
[Edit for profanity]
No can can kill Queen Ayrenn. She is the be-all and end-all of Tamriel.
[Edit for quote]Edited by ZOS_MattL on April 3, 2018 1:13PM4 -
Sixsixsix161✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Judging by past experience, you will be railroaded into being helpful aka following the established plot. ZOS has not ever given us the ability to meaningfully choose to oppose the written plotline, so no siding with the Iron Wheel, the Order of the Hour, the Worm Cult, etc. I don't expect that to change.
Yes sadly this is true. Thats why I said its not a true elder scrolls game. In oblivion/Skyrim we were able to do choices in story that actually impacts and/or changes things , sure ESO is a MMO but I still love to see some meaningfull storyline. I got tired helping people randomly I just want to do something big and good.
Unfortunately this not going to happen, I just have to wait 7-8 years for next elder scrolls game I guess, its only 7-8 years. right?
Actually, Skyrim was released in 2011, and the previous games were released at almost five year intervals before then. Going with those dates, we should have seen another TES in 2016, but hasn't happen.
Several years ago I remember reading a statement by one of the execs who said something along the line of, "Don't expect a follow-up game to Skyrim in 2016, or anytime soon thereafter." Reason, they were and still are busy with other games, and even though TES brings in big bucks, the combined income from the other games by the same company (can't remember who it is) was much, much, larger than a TES game.
And, after all, it's all about the money.
I've been playing a little Skyrim recently (third time around lol, and I'm still finding things I missed the first two times), and I'm waiting because there's a huge mod being released later this year supposedly, that looks really good.
Besides, after 14 years I've finally quit WoW, and came back here, and also started playing Path of Exile (real cool game with a list of about 1200 passive abilities/spells you can select from, and active skills/spells that come from gems, not the character).
6
0 -
psychotrip✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »Judging by past experience, you will be railroaded into being helpful aka following the established plot. ZOS has not ever given us the ability to meaningfully choose to oppose the written plotline, so no siding with the Iron Wheel, the Order of the Hour, the Worm Cult, etc. I don't expect that to change.
Yet another reason why they shouldn't have based this game around a 3 sided faction war. It makes subsequent story-content a bit contrived when everyone is constantly working together despite people acting like it's some rare exception to the rule.DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that sonofabitch queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
Short answer: no. I think you knew that before asking the question.No one is saying there aren't multiple interpretations of the lore, and we're not arguing that ESO did it "wrong".
We're arguing that they decided to go for the most boring, mundane, seen-before interpretation possible. Like they almost always do, unless they can ride on the coat-tails of past games.0 -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭you can kill her - or marry her and have children - your choice will decide the fate of tamriel!1 -
SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭
Thalmor and Veiled Heritance are two different groups.Kiralyn2000 wrote: »ESO is like 600-800 years before all that. Heck, one of the questlines you do for Ayrenn in Auridon is beating up the Thalmor/Veiled Heritance for being jerks.
1 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that sonofabitch queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
ESO is canon, actually even more than Skyrim. And actually Ayrenn is the only leader who tried to save second empire of cyrodill, do not mistale with empire of Tamriel founded by Talos.
....wut?Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax1 -
DeltaForce64x✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »you can kill her - or marry her and have children - your choice will decide the fate of tamriel!
Marry with queen ayrenn?? Good god hell no, I prefer marry with the Empress Regent instead LOL0 -
DeltaForce64x✭✭✭Sixsixsix161 wrote: »DeltaForce64x wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Judging by past experience, you will be railroaded into being helpful aka following the established plot. ZOS has not ever given us the ability to meaningfully choose to oppose the written plotline, so no siding with the Iron Wheel, the Order of the Hour, the Worm Cult, etc. I don't expect that to change.
Yes sadly this is true. Thats why I said its not a true elder scrolls game. In oblivion/Skyrim we were able to do choices in story that actually impacts and/or changes things , sure ESO is a MMO but I still love to see some meaningfull storyline. I got tired helping people randomly I just want to do something big and good.
Unfortunately this not going to happen, I just have to wait 7-8 years for next elder scrolls game I guess, its only 7-8 years. right?
Actually, Skyrim was released in 2011, and the previous games were released at almost five year intervals before then. Going with those dates, we should have seen another TES in 2016, but hasn't happen.
Several years ago I remember reading a statement by one of the execs who said something along the line of, "Don't expect a follow-up game to Skyrim in 2016, or anytime soon thereafter." Reason, they were and still are busy with other games, and even though TES brings in big bucks, the combined income from the other games by the same company (can't remember who it is) was much, much, larger than a TES game.
And, after all, it's all about the money.
I've been playing a little Skyrim recently (third time around lol, and I'm still finding things I missed the first two times), and I'm waiting because there's a huge mod being released later this year supposedly, that looks really good.
Besides, after 14 years I've finally quit WoW, and came back here, and also started playing Path of Exile (real cool game with a list of about 1200 passive abilities/spells you can select from, and active skills/spells that come from gems, not the character).
6
Yes I'm also finished with wow recently, in fact I was just purchased a game time card for 90 days subscription time- but what Blizzard done with the last patch is completely insane and unacceptable. They don't even hide it anymore, they openly forcing people to buy character tokens which like 60 dollars. 60 bucks for a single video game item, disgusting. Just like Rockstar forcing people to buy stupid Shark Cards on Steam to get in game money. (GTA V)
as you said, its all about money now and passion is gone.0 -
TelvanniWizard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »you can kill her - or marry her and have children - your choice will decide the fate of tamriel!
Marry with queen ayrenn?? Good god hell no, I prefer marry with the Empress Regent instead LOL
I cannot stand the Empress Regent, so ugly. Hate her voice also, when she gets the scroll and orders the blades to kill you. Ayrenn is stupid, and a bad leader (and a plain and cheap character, as I see it), but at least the physical design it´s kinda appealing
1 -
Enslaved✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that sonofabitch queen ayreen for destroying my empire. Well ESO is a basically non-lore/story game since its not a true Elder Scrolls game but I still love to see some quests specific to my female Imperial Mage.
How does one kill a 9th era spaceship?4 -
Runschei✭✭✭✭✭
✭This thread made my day. Thanks for the chuckle and no you shall not be allowed to slaughter her.0 -
jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭As long as you pay, you are welcome everywhere..."Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
Protect the weak. Heal the sick.
Treasure the gifts of friendship. Seek joy and inspiration in the mysteries of love.
Honor the Earth, its creatures, and the spirits. Use Nature's gifts wisely. Respect her power. Fear her fury.1 -
EvilCroc✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ah yes, Queen Ayrenn destroyed your homeland, not traitorous Tarn family and Mannimarco, not stupid so-called "emperor" Varen Aquilarios, not even Molag Bal himself. Sure, queen Ayrenn is responsible for everything.
I had no option to kill Emeric and Jorun, so you'll not be able to kill Ayrenn.
Only Thalmor and Veiled Heritance have right to kill False Queen anyway.0 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This has gone WAY too lore for a general discussion for me but to the OPs point in not buying Summerset to do any PvE there as im Pact loyal and AD are the absolute enemy.
These themed DLC / Chapters are so nice for that.
Glad they have jewelry crafting in the chapter as otherwise id have zero reaason to buy it unlike MW for BG.
Bad show ZOS.Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach1 -
DeltaForce64x✭✭✭Ah yes, Queen Ayrenn destroyed your homeland, not traitorous Tarn family and Mannimarco, not stupid so-called "emperor" Varen Aquilarios, not even Molag Bal himself. Sure, queen Ayrenn is responsible for everything.
I had no option to kill Emeric and Jorun, so you'll not be able to kill Ayrenn.
Only Thalmor and Veiled Heritance have right to kill False Queen anyway.
Damn, you didnt even read skyrim/eso/oblivion wikia for once did you? There's plenty proof elves working with the deadra and other evil means all the time, to end humans on tamriel. Even the in game books says that very clearly. And there's even a dungeon related to that in ESO.
Abnur Tharn is an Imperial and he did best he can to protect the remaining Empire, he is a politician with nobility, its normal and acceptable what he did in the ESO story. Don't be so simple minded.
So yeah, queen ayrenn is responsible for everything.
Rise and shine, babe.Edited by DeltaForce64x on April 3, 2018 11:05AM0 -
Violynne✭✭✭✭✭
✭
Come within 10 feet of my beloved queen and I'll gut you like a slaughterfish.DeltaForce64x wrote: »do Imperials are welcomed to the Summerset Island? Because Id like to kill that sonofabitch queen ayreen for destroying my empire.
Queen Ayrenn had nothing to do with the destruction of your empire. Greed of Imperialism did that.
1
