Sorc pvp build

rteezy · April 2018

so, whats the main differences between there 2 builds :

- 1Domi/Shaklebreaker/Riposte build

- Necropotence/Lich (or riposte, or shakle)

I mean, 1 has a pet and tons of magika the other one doesnt, btu they seem to be played somewhat the same..

For a new sorc what would eb better?

Sixty5 · April 2018

I'd go with non pet as a newbie, less to manage overall, and you aren't going to have to micromanage something with terrible AI

Having Shackle and Riposte together also means that you have a lot going for you defensively with rolls and such being available to you.

Lord-Otto · April 2018

Necropotence is for pets (Shadowrend), and they're only good in duels. So Domi/Shackle/Riposte all the way! Riposte is more of a group utility set, by the way. If you're often fighting solo, you're better off using Lich instead.

Checkmath · April 2018

Petsorc allows you to have huge shieldstrength as main defense mechanism. So petsorcs dont have to care much about blocking or dodging, because they have huge shields and many times enemies hit the pets instead of you. That makes it easy for defence, so not much reacting or thinking about defence.
Other sorcbuilds with shackle and wizards/lich have to be more careful, because you shields arent that big. So blocking and dodging enemies burst attacks gets important. To do so a decent stamina pool abd sustain is needed. Therefore shacklebreaker is probably the best set to make up for using witchmothers potent brew.
So basically petsorc is more about controlling the offensive part by controlling pets, other sorcs dont have to think about the problematic pets, but need to take care about the defence constantly.

Subversus · April 2018

For sorc it’s either 2 pets or none. 1 pet is just bad imo, if you wanna proc necro on a sorc without 2 pets your best bet is shadowrend.

Imo you should go with the shackle/riposte setup. It’s a good beginner set, it allows you to be tanky and make a minor mistake here and there thanks to riposte.

Aedaryl · April 2018

Checkmath wrote: »

Petsorc allows you to have huge shieldstrength as main defense mechanism. So petsorcs dont have to care much about blocking or dodging, because they have huge shields and many times enemies hit the pets instead of you. That makes it easy for defence, so not much reacting or thinking about defence.
Other sorcbuilds with shackle and wizards/lich have to be more careful, because you shields arent that big. So blocking and dodging enemies burst attacks gets important. To do so a decent stamina pool abd sustain is needed. Therefore shacklebreaker is probably the best set to make up for using witchmothers potent brew.
So basically petsorc is more about controlling the offensive part by controlling pets, other sorcs dont have to think about the problematic pets, but need to take care about the defence constantly.

It's false, openworld pet sorc has the worst defense in the game.

If you want a viable build, you need 2 pets, streak, hardened, deadric pray, crystal frag and a spamable (force pulse). There is one space left. You need dark conversion or elemental drain or harness.

The true pet sorc issue is the magicka sustain : There is nothing harder to sustain than a pet sorc (most expensive spammable and heal + streak, shield spam) and for that, elemental drain or dark conversion is prefered to harness, because you will not sustain with harness against stam.

If you want a build you can sustain in both magicka and stamina vs everyone you need hardened ward only. And one shield alone is the worst defense of the game. Matriarch heal is bad for the sorc itself because it's expensive, have a delay, and sorc doesn't have any healing passive (rip the heal with defile). Matriarch is here for healing the other pet and it's good to heal others people that gain more from hp than shield.

The huge shield u speak isn't that huge, you can't go over 50k magicka with a decent mag and stam sustain. Magblade (8% more magicka) have similar shield than pet sorc, but they have healing ward + hot in top of Dampen.

Defense on pet sorc is horrible and the worst of the game. However, pet sorc SHINE in offense, with a very good pressure and burst.

Biro123 · April 2018

I'm hearing too much "x doesn't work" here for my liking. I guess from people who haven't tried it enough to get used to it.

One pet (twilight matriarch) is VERY viable in open world.

Also where the question so far seems to be necro or shackle, but what about both? Both together (with domi) gives a VERY solid pet build, with a lot of defence.

As to the difference between pet/non pet, it's all down to bar space. Generally with a pet build you tend to have to give up mobility, making it slightly worse when outnumbered, but its stronger in a stand-up slugfest.

Checkmath · April 2018

Only 50k max magicka is pretty laughable for a petsorc. If you build right you hit that in no cp yes.

Waffennacht · April 2018

Checkmath wrote: »

Only 50k max magicka is pretty laughable for a petsorc. If you build right you hit that in no cp yes.

Any build I've used/faced that had anything that high was extremely weak to hard CCs on cool down + resource poisons. At 7k every 5 sec, you are looking at needing an equivalent of 1k Stam Regen minimum with a 12k Stam pool, (or equivalent i.e. bull netch)

Without such an equivalent, those high mag builds lose when they don't kill rather immediately

Checkmath · April 2018

Necro plus shacklebreaker and domihaus provides all you need there. And you can get over 50k in this setup

Biro123 · April 2018

Checkmath wrote: »

Only 50k max magicka is pretty laughable for a petsorc. If you build right you hit that in no cp yes.

Yes - but you're left with 9k stam and 16k health - I wouldn't recommend it to a new sorc player. Can also hit it without pets too (with the same disadvantages)

Lord-Otto · April 2018

Checkmath wrote: »

Necro plus shacklebreaker and domihaus provides all you need there. And you can get over 50k in this setup

No Master staff...
D=

Subversus · April 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

I'm hearing too much "x doesn't work" here for my liking. I guess from people who haven't tried it enough to get used to it.

One pet (twilight matriarch) is VERY viable in open world.

Also where the question so far seems to be necro or shackle, but what about both? Both together (with domi) gives a VERY solid pet build, with a lot of defence.

As to the difference between pet/non pet, it's all down to bar space. Generally with a pet build you tend to have to give up mobility, making it slightly worse when outnumbered, but its stronger in a stand-up slugfest.

I’m talking from experience. Matriarch sorc builds are pretty terrible for open world in 2018, they are more than surely lacking in some department. The only reason double pet sorc is good is cause you can los behind the pets. Fix the terrible targeting and pet sorc fades into nothingness.

Biro123 · April 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

I'm hearing too much "x doesn't work" here for my liking. I guess from people who haven't tried it enough to get used to it.

One pet (twilight matriarch) is VERY viable in open world.

Also where the question so far seems to be necro or shackle, but what about both? Both together (with domi) gives a VERY solid pet build, with a lot of defence.

As to the difference between pet/non pet, it's all down to bar space. Generally with a pet build you tend to have to give up mobility, making it slightly worse when outnumbered, but its stronger in a stand-up slugfest.

I’m talking from experience. Matriarch sorc builds are pretty terrible for open world in 2018, they are more than surely lacking in some department. The only reason double pet sorc is good is cause you can los behind the pets. Fix the terrible targeting and pet sorc fades into nothingness.

Me too. Its not really about using the pet as a pet - its about having a max magica build.. You can get about the same stats without the matriarch, but have to use bound armour - so still lose 2 slots - may as well take the pet and get a 13k insta heal. Keep it on passive the majority of the time and remember that you're shielding to protect your pet too

Biro123 · April 2018

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

Necro plus shacklebreaker and domihaus provides all you need there. And you can get over 50k in this setup

No Master staff...
D=

I don't have one anyway... but if you wanted to fit it in - just drop Domi.

Lord-Otto · April 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

Necro plus shacklebreaker and domihaus provides all you need there. And you can get over 50k in this setup

No Master staff...
D=

I don't have one anyway... but if you wanted to fit it in - just drop Domi.

Wasted backbar setslot...
D=
;P

Aedaryl · April 2018

Checkmath wrote: »

Necro plus shacklebreaker and domihaus provides all you need there. And you can get over 50k in this setup

No, not with reliable sustain. You can be very close to 50k but you will not go over.

Minalan · April 2018

You want a viable Sorc PVP build get yourself troll king, lingering health pots, heavy brass armor, and train up stamina skills. Take the crit Rush and Hurricane morphs and you’re set.

Stamina Sorc is the only thing out there that can realistically fight a good nightblade and actually play BG.

When I see a pet Sorc in PVP, I know for a fact that the guy isn’t a serious threat. Period. And I’m probably right 99% of the time. I can’t remember the last time I died to one that wasn’t part of a Zerg outnumbering me 10-1 or more.

Subversus · April 2018

Minalan wrote: »

You want a viable Sorc PVP build get yourself troll king, lingering health pots, heavy brass armor, and train up stamina skills. Take the crit Rush and Hurricane morphs and you’re set.

Stamina Sorc is the only thing out there that can realistically fight a good nightblade and actually play BG.

When I see a pet Sorc in PVP, I know for a fact that the guy isn’t a serious threat. Period. And I’m probably right 99% of the time. I can’t remember the last time I died to one that wasn’t part of a Zerg outnumbering me 10-1 or more.

I agree hahaha, I usually just shrug, giggle a few times and then ignore the pet sorcs I encounter in open world.

Aedaryl · April 2018

Minalan wrote: »

You want a viable Sorc PVP build get yourself troll king, lingering health pots, heavy brass armor, and train up stamina skills. Take the crit Rush and Hurricane morphs and you’re set.

Stamina Sorc is the only thing out there that can realistically fight a good nightblade and actually play BG.

When I see a pet Sorc in PVP, I know for a fact that the guy isn’t a serious threat. Period. And I’m probably right 99% of the time. I can’t remember the last time I died to one that wasn’t part of a Zerg outnumbering me 10-1 or more.

Most of pet sorc are PvE guys trying PvP, so yeah, they die in a second.

But you can clearly have a very good and viable openworld pet sorc.

I'm running 48.5k magicka (no meteor), 20.3k health, 16k stamina, 2430 mag regen, 1080 stam regen, 1.9k spell damage and 45% critical chance. 4 well fitted because I dodge a lot. I also have minor vulnerabilty (8% more damage) on target 100% of the time (don't work on shield but anyway sorc are so bad u don't need it).

I have everything a sorc need, frag, curse, streak, hardened ward. Even get elemental drain and also Dark conversion + mines on overload bar.

That's pretty viable.

Pet sorc have trouble to 1vX because one shield isn't enough agaisnt multiple competent players, but when u are not a lot outnumbered, it's very effective, even with non duel completly cheese stats.

Biro123 · April 2018

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

Subversus · April 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

Minalan · April 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

I ran with 14K stamina last night for laughs and got rolled. It’s 18-19K or nothing out there, dodge roll is just too strong not to use liberally, and being able to chain break free is life and death.

Besides, you can get that and 47K Magicka without a pet, why not do it?

Biro123 · April 2018

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

meta for what though.? If you want meta for escaping from everything, but not killing much, go for the accepted 'meta' builds. I mean, lets face it, most meta builds come from Xv1 players whose goal is to kite/outsustain. But most people don't play that way, so, are those builds really meta for everyone?

If you want something that can stand in a breach with a huge shieldstack an scare the crap out of the opposition, then your standard meta builds aren't the way to go.
If you want a build that can keep friendlies alive, then the standard meta is not the way to go.
If you want a build to make every snipe spammer on top of a wall stop shooting and instead hide behind their parapet, the standard meta isn't the answer.

Its also better than you would think at escaping due to bol and a huge magical pool.

But what do I know, I only play it every day.

bardx86 · April 2018

Minalan wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

I ran with 14K stamina last night for laughs and got rolled. It’s 18-19K or nothing out there, dodge roll is just too strong not to use liberally, and being able to chain break free is life and death.

Besides, you can get that and 47K Magicka without a pet, why not do it?

Im hitting around 14k, what are you doing to push it to 18k?

Minalan · April 2018

bardx86 wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

I ran with 14K stamina last night for laughs and got rolled. It’s 18-19K or nothing out there, dodge roll is just too strong not to use liberally, and being able to chain break free is life and death.

Besides, you can get that and 47K Magicka without a pet, why not do it?

Im hitting around 14k, what are you doing to push it to 18k?

Purple food, domi shoulder, shackle.

Minalan · April 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

meta for what though.? If you want meta for escaping from everything, but not killing much, go for the accepted 'meta' builds. I mean, lets face it, most meta builds come from Xv1 players whose goal is to kite/outsustain. But most people don't play that way, so, are those builds really meta for everyone?

If you want something that can stand in a breach with a huge shieldstack an scare the crap out of the opposition, then your standard meta builds aren't the way to go.
If you want a build that can keep friendlies alive, then the standard meta is not the way to go.
If you want a build to make every snipe spammer on top of a wall stop shooting and instead hide behind their parapet, the standard meta isn't the answer.

Its also better than you would think at escaping due to bol and a huge magical pool.

But what do I know, I only play it every day.

The question is always, how much harder are you hitting? You get what, 2K or so more on a tooltip, that’s 750-1K damage realistically in PVP?

While that’s nice, it’s not worth it IMO over having the rounded resources to survive. I can roll dodge 4-5 times in a row (dodge roll streaks are the best!), and I can dark exchange until I get tired of hitting the ‘free magicka here!’ button.

With 11K stamina - You can also break free and dodge roll exactly once, so the first DK that comes along with talons, fossil is going to LOVE you.

Edit: don’t get me wrong, I really miss the hell out of wearing Magicka damage sets, but I don’t think they work for us well this patch.

Lexxypwns · April 2018

Minalan wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

meta for what though.? If you want meta for escaping from everything, but not killing much, go for the accepted 'meta' builds. I mean, lets face it, most meta builds come from Xv1 players whose goal is to kite/outsustain. But most people don't play that way, so, are those builds really meta for everyone?

If you want something that can stand in a breach with a huge shieldstack an scare the crap out of the opposition, then your standard meta builds aren't the way to go.
If you want a build that can keep friendlies alive, then the standard meta is not the way to go.
If you want a build to make every snipe spammer on top of a wall stop shooting and instead hide behind their parapet, the standard meta isn't the answer.

Its also better than you would think at escaping due to bol and a huge magical pool.

But what do I know, I only play it every day.

The question is always, how much harder are you hitting? You get what, 2K or so more on a tooltip, that’s 750-1K damage realistically in PVP?

While that’s nice, it’s not worth it IMO over having the rounded resources to survive. I can roll dodge 4-5 times in a row (dodge roll streaks are the best!), and I can dark exchange until I get tired of hitting the ‘free magicka here!’ button.

With 11K stamina - You can also break free and dodge roll exactly once, so the first DK that comes along with talons, fossil is going to LOVE you.

Edit: don’t get me wrong, I really miss the hell out of wearing Magicka damage sets, but I don’t think they work for us well this patch.

Depending on crits, His setup should have ~4k bigger burst combo than the standard Shackle/Lich sorcs and 5k+ more than Shackle/Riposte sorcs.

Idk how he’s sustaining, but he’s got waaay more damage than standard sorcs

Biro123 · April 2018

Minalan wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

meta for what though.? If you want meta for escaping from everything, but not killing much, go for the accepted 'meta' builds. I mean, lets face it, most meta builds come from Xv1 players whose goal is to kite/outsustain. But most people don't play that way, so, are those builds really meta for everyone?

If you want something that can stand in a breach with a huge shieldstack an scare the crap out of the opposition, then your standard meta builds aren't the way to go.
If you want a build that can keep friendlies alive, then the standard meta is not the way to go.
If you want a build to make every snipe spammer on top of a wall stop shooting and instead hide behind their parapet, the standard meta isn't the answer.

Its also better than you would think at escaping due to bol and a huge magical pool.

But what do I know, I only play it every day.

The question is always, how much harder are you hitting? You get what, 2K or so more on a tooltip, that’s 750-1K damage realistically in PVP?

While that’s nice, it’s not worth it IMO over having the rounded resources to survive. I can roll dodge 4-5 times in a row (dodge roll streaks are the best!), and I can dark exchange until I get tired of hitting the ‘free magicka here!’ button.

With 11K stamina - You can also break free and dodge roll exactly once, so the first DK that comes along with talons, fossil is going to LOVE you.

Edit: don’t get me wrong, I really miss the hell out of wearing Magicka damage sets, but I don’t think they work for us well this patch.

I can comfortably stay rooted while they wail on me. You don't have to break every hard cc, nor every root. It takes practice but you can learn to spot when your shields will take the damage. I can break free as much as a I need to, but do have to be careful when to dodge. I'd be lying if I said I never die because I'm out of stam, but when I do, it's because I made a mistake (mostly because I forget due to often switching builds or characters that are made to dodge). I also have plenty of cp spent on break free and dodge cost, and a couple of well fitted pieces, so I can do more than one break free and dodge.

Big shields let you stand and cast your full burst rotation much more often, putting your opponent on the defence more, meaning less time dodging/shielding etc...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that dodging plus weaker shielding is a weaker defence, I know that dodge plus shield plus mobility is the stronger overall defence (played it often enough).
I'm just disputing the comments saying that this is not a viable build, and the earlier comment that single-pet builds are not viable.
If it wasn't viable, I wouldn't play it.

Minalan · April 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Minalan wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

The petbuild I'm enjoying at the mo is 55.6k magicka, 3400 spelldmg (with buffs up - but not continuous assault), 48% crit. Mag recov = 1500 (no continuous and no pot buff). Only has 11k stam, and health is low too - so wouldn't recommend it to people - but I'm having a lot of fun

Its DW of course :-) Uses runecage and one pet. It's viable.

See, now this is what I mean. 11k stam (and what I assume is 400-500 stam regen) is not really that good for open world. Niche at best.

I know it might be good for duels or the occasional 1v1/2 in cyro, but outside of that idk... it might be the meta player in me talking though, cause if I’m not playing my main then I don’t see any reason not to run meta.

meta for what though.? If you want meta for escaping from everything, but not killing much, go for the accepted 'meta' builds. I mean, lets face it, most meta builds come from Xv1 players whose goal is to kite/outsustain. But most people don't play that way, so, are those builds really meta for everyone?

If you want something that can stand in a breach with a huge shieldstack an scare the crap out of the opposition, then your standard meta builds aren't the way to go.
If you want a build that can keep friendlies alive, then the standard meta is not the way to go.
If you want a build to make every snipe spammer on top of a wall stop shooting and instead hide behind their parapet, the standard meta isn't the answer.

Its also better than you would think at escaping due to bol and a huge magical pool.

But what do I know, I only play it every day.

The question is always, how much harder are you hitting? You get what, 2K or so more on a tooltip, that’s 750-1K damage realistically in PVP?

While that’s nice, it’s not worth it IMO over having the rounded resources to survive. I can roll dodge 4-5 times in a row (dodge roll streaks are the best!), and I can dark exchange until I get tired of hitting the ‘free magicka here!’ button.

With 11K stamina - You can also break free and dodge roll exactly once, so the first DK that comes along with talons, fossil is going to LOVE you.

Edit: don’t get me wrong, I really miss the hell out of wearing Magicka damage sets, but I don’t think they work for us well this patch.

Depending on crits, His setup should have ~4k bigger burst combo than the standard Shackle/Lich sorcs and 5k+ more than Shackle/Riposte sorcs.

Idk how he’s sustaining, but he’s got waaay more damage than standard sorcs

Its 4K more, but that’s more than made up for with a spammable (reach with a master staff) and woven light attacks with every offensive ability.

The difference isn’t that big, Especially during those annoying times when frags just WONT proc after a dozen or more spells and you want to throw something heavy in RNG frustration. At least you can still toss 10K tooltip light-attack cancelled destructive reaches.

I played a 52K MM dual wield this weekend with 14K stamina. It was fun, but every ‘frag proc desert’ I hit was annoying as hell. That, and without consistent light woven attacks, generating ultimate sucked. Sure you can use the back bar Resto staff, but not in between every single main DW bar abilities. It’s not the same.

I still love and miss DW, but I blow more things up with a destro staff. More meteors. More soul assault stir-fried potatoes. More storm atro’s to LOS behind.

Minalan · April 2018

Question for Sorc build gurus: is the healing debuff effect of a disease enchant affected by defile CP?

If so, by how much?

@Lexxypwns probably knows...