Seraphayel wrote: »

Summerset is a disappointment when judged by announced features and everything we know yet.

Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it's empty? Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it has the same amount of content like any other zone but is 50% bigger?
Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it looks like Auridon 2.0 with up to date textures?

Please be honest and answer all this questions for yourself when you say that Summerset will be fine.

You can clearly see that ZOS didn't put much effort into it, they just wanted to sell something as a Chapter. Summerset doesn't feel like a Chapter. It's a DLC on steroids (at best).

Morrowind offered us 3 skill lines, Summerset 1.

Morrowind offered us a real trial, Summerset gives us Asylum Sanctorium 2.0.

Morrowind offered us battlegrounds, Summerset Jewelrycrafting. This is the only comparison that isn't worse in Summerset imho.

All the other stuff is just highly disappointing although Summerset is $10 cheaper than Morrowind.

I would have preferred a Chapter with real features, they could have even delayed it until Q3 or Q4 imho.

If we go by that the next Chapter will offer a passive skill line like DB or TG and that's it. Do you really want that?

Is the beta up already? I didn't realize people were testing already.

Seraphayel wrote: »

klowdy1 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Summerset is a disappointment when judged by announced features and everything we know yet.

Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it's empty? Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it has the same amount of content like any other zone but is 50% bigger?
Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it looks like Auridon 2.0 with up to date textures?

Please be honest and answer all this questions for yourself when you say that Summerset will be fine.

You can clearly see that ZOS didn't put much effort into it, they just wanted to sell something as a Chapter. Summerset doesn't feel like a Chapter. It's a DLC on steroids (at best).

Morrowind offered us 3 skill lines, Summerset 1.

Morrowind offered us a real trial, Summerset gives us Asylum Sanctorium 2.0.

Morrowind offered us battlegrounds, Summerset Jewelrycrafting. This is the only comparison that isn't worse in Summerset imho.

All the other stuff is just highly disappointing although Summerset is $10 cheaper than Morrowind.

I would have preferred a Chapter with real features, they could have even delayed it until Q3 or Q4 imho.

If we go by that the next Chapter will offer a passive skill line like DB or TG and that's it. Do you really want that?

Is the beta up already? I didn't realize people were testing already.

Most of the things I mentioned were either said during the announcement or the following week.

When it's about "unannounced" Summerset features please read my last Comment on the previous page and answer my question.

I'll quote myself:


The question is: did they reveal so much less because they want to reveal stuff later or did they reveal so much less because there isn't much more than that? If you say it's the first, would you keep big features out of your official announcement when the pre orders start at the same time?

It seems like you have attitude towards me. I was not being sarcastic, I was wondering if the PTS was up yet. The way you were talking, it seemed like you had more knowledge on the subject than I did.

klowdy1 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

klowdy1 wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Summerset is a disappointment when judged by announced features and everything we know yet.

Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it's empty? Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it has the same amount of content like any other zone but is 50% bigger?
Why do you need the "biggest zone yet" when it looks like Auridon 2.0 with up to date textures?

Please be honest and answer all this questions for yourself when you say that Summerset will be fine.

You can clearly see that ZOS didn't put much effort into it, they just wanted to sell something as a Chapter. Summerset doesn't feel like a Chapter. It's a DLC on steroids (at best).

Morrowind offered us 3 skill lines, Summerset 1.

Morrowind offered us a real trial, Summerset gives us Asylum Sanctorium 2.0.

Morrowind offered us battlegrounds, Summerset Jewelrycrafting. This is the only comparison that isn't worse in Summerset imho.

All the other stuff is just highly disappointing although Summerset is $10 cheaper than Morrowind.

I would have preferred a Chapter with real features, they could have even delayed it until Q3 or Q4 imho.

If we go by that the next Chapter will offer a passive skill line like DB or TG and that's it. Do you really want that?

Is the beta up already? I didn't realize people were testing already.

Most of the things I mentioned were either said during the announcement or the following week.

When it's about "unannounced" Summerset features please read my last Comment on the previous page and answer my question.

I'll quote myself:


The question is: did they reveal so much less because they want to reveal stuff later or did they reveal so much less because there isn't much more than that? If you say it's the first, would you keep big features out of your official announcement when the pre orders start at the same time?

It seems like you have attitude towards me. I was not being sarcastic, I was wondering if the PTS was up yet. The way you were talking, it seemed like you had more knowledge on the subject than I did.

I don't, sorry. Wasn't meant to sound unfriendly.

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

how is it that people think they know all about it when we haven't seen it yet?

We already know what it is.What new things it has.

For me Orsinium brought more, epic zone and has vMA.

Imperial City brought more longevity

TG, DB, CWC, MW and SS seem small and less justified compared to IC and Ors

ZOS' marketing team is kicking themselves that they didn't think of the Chapter idea back when they released Orsinium. Or else that totally would have been a chapter.

I’ve already preordered Summerset, but it does seem thin on content based on what I’ve seen so far. ESO in general is perhaps not the most content-rich mmo on the market.

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

how is it that people think they know all about it when we haven't seen it yet?

When they list daily login rewards as one of the highlighted benefits of the Chapter, it is a safe conclusion that there isn't a lot more for them to brag about.

However, you are correct in that most of us have not seen it, so we don't know what the complete content is.

i like the DLC's ehm sorry "chapters" and i do think they are worth the money but as an ESO+ member i am beginning to feel a little bit forgotten.
In future i would like to see more character interactions including guild functions like guild vs guild pvp and sign up arena battles with spectators and betting.
Also simple things like having 2 people on a mount and intractable emotes like kiss / slap etc

I think it's fine. ESO tends to put out consistent content far more often then most MMO's. We just recently got Dragonbones DLC and a huge customization system that in itself is worthy of putting in most Expansions. But we get stuff like that pretty consistently throughout the year. So I think it's unfair to say, especially at this point, that it's not enough.

Besides, do you honestly think that it's going to change because of one thread? that ESO is going to say, "Ohnoes! a few players are concerned about the content level in Summerset! we need to add more now!"

Really, it's simply about choosing whether or not your going to buy it. I'm perfectly happy with what I've seen so far, I'm assuming there's going to be more, and I've already invested.

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

how is it that people think they know all about it when we haven't seen it yet?

RupzSkooma wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

how is it that people think they know all about it when we haven't seen it yet?

We already know what it is.What new things it has.

ok.

you make a list here of everything in it.

when it comes out i will play through it, make notes and compare to your list.

deal?

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

how is it that people think they know all about it when we haven't seen it yet?

RupzSkooma wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

how is it that people think they know all about it when we haven't seen it yet?

We already know what it is.What new things it has.

ok.

you make a list here of everything in it.

when it comes out i will play through it, make notes and compare to your list.

deal?

You really think there are a lot more features that are yet to get announced ?
You are too innocent.

I rather look forward to Summerset more so than I did Morrowind.
Comparing Warden to the Psijic Skill Line or Jewelry crafting is foolhardy as Warden was its own stand alone class that did not impact ESO much outside of PvP. Both the Psijic Skill Line and Jewelry crafting, being openly available to everyone with Summerset, will potentially change the game far more than Warden ever did. We have 6 new Jewelry traits that could potentially change what's BiS for Jewelry on some builds, we have a whole skill line that can help fill some gaps in builds (I really hope Time Stop will help fill in the CC department my NB tank lacks in). This content seems far more fulfilling in my eyes cause it offers something I can tangibly utilize on more than 1 character.

As for Cloudrest, I honestly don't see a problem. Trash mobs are nothing but tedious crap in Trials that offer little more than a cheap obstacle to the next boss. Only Trash mobs worth a damn are the boss groups in MoL since none of the other mobs in Trials really matter much.

Only thing worth a damn that Morrowind added was Battlegrounds which is a good thing but really the only thing of note in Morrowind's favor as far as I'm concerned.