So sad, but true.

there will BE a need for what you suggest.

Tasear wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom this important. I can see the scams and forum sadness now.

agreed, if there is no way to tell it apart, scumbag players WILL take advantage of the market rush and scam unaware players with *** jewelery

Yes

It never occurred to me they WOULDN'T do this; not doing it would be beyond stupid.

That said, the whole plan of what they apparently ARE doing -- rendering almost all pre-existing jewelry worthless -- is a bad idea. Yes, I know ZoS is much better than other MMOs at not trashing your preexisting gear, and hence could be excused an exception to that generality. But ZoS is also much worse than others in other frustration-inducing ways -- e.g. Loading Screens!! So introducing a major new grind could push a lot of people past their frustration limit.

Also, the more of a grind jewelry crafting is, the more that research time reductions or other aids become ptw.

When you go to a guild trader, it always shows who crafted the item, so you will be able to tell them apart. Person to person trading might be an issue though?

"Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch."
What about after Summerset launch? Or do they mean to say we will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry obtained prior to Summerset launch? Should I be hoarding AP or gold jewelry?

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

ola.wilhelmssonb16_ESO wrote: »

"Additionally, you will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry you're currently holding onto prior to Summerset launch."
What about after Summerset launch? Or do they mean to say we will not be able to deconstruct any jewelry obtained prior to Summerset launch? Should I be hoarding AP or gold jewelry?

Are you able to deconstruct jewelry before ss? No. You don’t have the means to. So this sentence is about obtained jewels.

Also agree there needs to be some sort of marker. An icon, a name change, something. Even if everyone in game has the best intentions in the world (and they don't) there will be too much confusion otherwise.

Yeah, the jewelry won't be worthless. No more worthless then it is now. you'll be able to craft and mod it to your heart's content. You just won't be able to decon it to get ahead of everyone else in the materials game.

On the subject, yes we DEFINITELY NEED THIS! I'm all for the limitation of locking pre-Chapter jewelry so you can't decon, but we will NEED a way to know what is pre-chapter and what isn't. Until then, I simply won't be buying ANY jewelry from players, be it in the market or person to person. Period.

And the comment does feel a bit ambiguous, but I'm pretty sure they plan on allowing us to decon jewelry we get after the chapter hits. Now, anything that could yield a jewelry piece that is obtained prior to the chapter but not turned in is definitely under question. Does it spawn loot from the new tables? or the old ones? This needs to be answered as well.

Although I did hear in another post that they plan on a much more detailed explanation of the JC system around the time the chapter first hits the PTS. so we'll most likely know allot more very soon. Hopefully that last question will be answered there.

Feric51 wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

It never occurred to me they WOULDN'T do this; not doing it would be beyond stupid.

That said, the whole plan of what they apparently ARE doing --rendering almost all pre-existing jewelry worthless -- is a bad idea. Yes, I know ZoS is much better than other MMOs at not trashing your preexisting gear, and hence could be excused an exception to that generality. But ZoS is also much worse than others in other frustration-inducing ways -- e.g. Loading Screens!! So introducing a major new grind could push a lot of people past their frustration limit.

Also, the more of a grind jewelry crafting is, the more that research time reductions or other aids become ptw.

That is the most asinine statement I keep seeing come up in these threads. The ONLY function current jewelry is not going to have over post-Summerset jewelry is the ability to deconstruct it. Gina already stated that you will able to improve it, transmute it, and use it for research. Just can’t deconstruct it.

Oh yeah, and you’ll still be able to... get ready for this.... Wear it!!!

Explain to me how that defines worthless?

Dev quote stating this please?

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Dev quote stating this please?

@Anti_Virus Here you go:

You will still be able to upgrade, transmute, or even research existing jewelry. You just won't be able to deconstruct it.

Thank you, Saved!

While they are recoding the legacy jewelry they can go ahead and make it Deconable

The_Brosteen wrote: »

Unfortunately this is a classic example of how the dev team doesn't think things all the way through.

"So bringing jewlery crafting in everyone is just going so save up jewlery to decon. We don't want players taking advantage of the transition."

"Well we can just make it so old jewlery dropped before the update cannot be deconstructed"

"Good idea"

And the thought process stops there.
But the playerbase always continue the thought process and here we are. In a situation where if nothing changes players could be taken advantage of.

Devs need to learn to think things through completely.

I don't think your assessment is very fair. Sure, the dev team has not explicitly said that they have a plan for this issue, but, well, there's a LOT about this system that hasn't yet been explicitly stated. What has been explicitly stated is that more information is coming, which, I'm sure, includes the answer to how they will demarcate legacy jewelry.

Just because they haven't said doesn't mean they haven't thought about it.

I'm not saying that we, as players, shouldn't offer our suggestions, I'm just saying that it's unfair to accuse the devs of having no thought on this issue when they've released virtually no information about this system other than that it exists.