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Veteran Player Reimbursement: Morrowind

  • Tan9oSuccka
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    coop500 wrote: »
    We got the Nix Ox, I'm pleased

    Plus we got to play the Morrowind content for a entire year more

    This. I’m not sure I understand the outrage?

    This happens with every game. Launch retail is at 60 bucks or more. A year later it’s going to be less.

    Sheesh.

    Sometimes it's even free. Xbox Games with Gold releases old games for free all the time. Games that people paid 60$ for a few years ago. I even bought ESO for 20$ when it was on sale. Must be real unfair to those players who paid full price. The amount of complaining is unreal.

    Very true.

    I paid the full digital price for the base game (Imperial edition) and for Morrowind (Premium).

    I’m not owed anything (nor am I salty, the game has been fun) and despite my extreme dislike of Altmer.....I plan on buying Summerset as well. :)
  • ZiRM
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    ZOS give me a dragon mount and i'll forgive you. :D
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  • Violynne
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    Because, honestly, I'm this close to giving you up.
    Then go and take this ridiculous whine fest with you.

    Going to complain about those who got ESO for 50% during sales, too?

    The stupid amount of stupid on this forum is enough to give me a brain tumor.

    Enough of this.



  • MLGProPlayer
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    Morrowind isn't factored into the price. It's a free addition to the package. There is nothing to reimburse you for.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    I dislike using the term entitlement, but this is it.

    World of Warcraft works off a similar model. The old expansion becomes free and base game, when the new one comes out. The old players are not at all reimbursed, and they know that when they buy the new xpac.

    Future releases of a game do not entitle you to re-imbursement. The only way you can get re-imbursement is if a product does not work properly after you bought it. Get used to it, get over it, stop asking for reimbursement.
  • Danksta
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    More people to play Morrowind content with... Oooo I'm sooo pissed off right now.

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  • majulook
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    Been playing since beta, and I do not feel the same as the OP.

    Actually I am happy if the so called "Veteran Players" who are upset like the OP is quit the game. Those players are most likely the reasons for toxicity levels of in game chat, and kick players from groups for not having BIS skills and items.

    Its just a game relax.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
  • Ackwalan
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    jesus.. people are stupid

    EDIT: also been playing since launch.. and i guess i could be more constructive, as this is common practice in MMO's otherwise people would be paying thousands of dollars to try something they may not even like.

    do you want new players to play with? do you want a healthy game? its silly how you could be so ignorant and selfish and think you deserve something. like you said you have put over 2k hours into the game... YOU GOT WAY MORE THAN YOU PAID OUT OF IT.


    also... first!

    No need to edit your post. Your first response was spot on.

  • JD2013
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    What, in your wildest imagination, do you think you are entitled to, OP?

    You bought a product. You played the product.

    Like all mmo’s, said Chapter is now free and an incentive to get Summerset for those who did not purchase Morrowind when it came out.

    Think of it as buy one get one free.

    You wouldn’t suddenly flip like this if you bought some Pringles and a year later they had a buy one get one free on them.

    You bought the content as advertised. You played the content. You are owed exactly nothing.
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  • Vhozek
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    jesus.. people are stupid

    EDIT: also been playing since launch.. and i guess i could be more constructive, as this is common practice in MMO's otherwise people would be paying thousands of dollars to try something they may not even like.

    do you want new players to play with? do you want a healthy game? its silly how you could be so ignorant and selfish and think you deserve something. like you said you have put over 2k hours into the game... YOU GOT WAY MORE THAN YOU PAID OUT OF IT.


    also... first!

    League of Legends is free and I've been playing it since 2012. Only recently I've been thinking of taking a break.
    ESO costs $30 right now and I've been playing it a year. I took a break from it after 4 months.
    Skyrim costed me $60 and I played it from since release til last year when I got ESO. I never took a break until now.

    I'm not saying we should get something for owning Morrowind expansion, but ESO in general has nothing to offer.
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  • TheTwistedRune
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    BloodWolfe wrote: »
    [Snip]. You paid and bought it to play it earlier than a year later. That's how it goes! Other mmo's will offer up previous expansions as well with the current (EQ2 has done this with all expansions, ffxiv stormblood offered heavensward with it) [Snip]

    You need to calm down. Name calling and posting in such an aggressive tone is not on regardless of how much you dislike somebody's opinion.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on March 30, 2018 5:14PM
  • Kiralyn2000
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    What everyone else said. You've had a year's use of the product, why are you "owed" anything for that?

    And how is this different than just about every other sale or product in the world? Buy a New HD TV when they first come out, pay thousands because you're an early adopter. Two years later, everyone and their brother is buying them for $400. You're not owed anything. Buy a game at launch for $60, buy $50 of DLC as they're released.... eight months later, people are buying the GOTY Collection of everything for $40. You're not owed anything.
  • Juju_beans
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    Seems like this is the first MMO for many people. This is how MMO's work..when new expansions come out the previous one is absorbed into the base game.

    And this is so that new players to the game aren't hit with having to buy base + each expansion to get to the current game.

    If you don't like how MMO's work then go back to static games.
  • Valkysas154
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    You must be new to MMORPGS since this is how any decent mmo works
    since 1999-2000 or so and it's a good system that keeps ppl that might come back from running away when they learn they need to spend hundreds of dollars just to catch up on expansions-chapters-.

  • Kuramas9tails
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    Marketing.....
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    • Joy_Division
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      If you dish out $200 for a designer jeans, don;t get mad when said designer jeans are on the discount rack for $20 the next fashion season.
      Edited by Joy_Division on March 30, 2018 5:07PM
      Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
    • Giraffon
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      I'm repulsed by the backlash of players to OP. Name calling and personal attacks. Please close this thread Zeni.
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    • GatheredMyst
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      You said it yourself: You have thus far gotten 2000+ of hours of entertainment from the game so far. Thousands. That's what you paid for.

      Remember the days that you would buy a game off the shelf for your Playstation 2 for fifty to sixty bucks, play it for 10 hours, and then you were done with it? Then you'd trade it in, and spend another maybe 40-45 bucks to get a new game that would thus last another 10 hours?

      Now? People complain that they spent 60-80 dollars (if they splurged on a collector's edition), and got thousands of hours of play time. Even after that, "Please give me more for that 60-80 dollars please."

      It's ludicrous.

      Not only that, but it shows a serious disconnect when it comes to how MMO's have done business for years. With the exception of World of Warcraft (which was a pain in the rear to get started in), every MMO i've ever played has included past expansions as a part of the new one, so that newer players don't have a heaping pile of stuff they have to purchase to get into the game. It's common sense, and helps rope new people in. If they were to listen to people like this? The amount of new blood that would approach the game as a piece of this marketing binge would be far fewer.

      In closing, though, you got exactly what you paid for; the content you purchased this last year, and that time's access to that content. If you want to get something for free instead, then maybe you should wait until next year when Summerset will likely become an included piece of the next Chapter for pre-order.

      You are entitled to nothing else.
    • ak_pvp
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      People calling me entitled for wanting to separate certain things from the expac, but still buying them. Take notes.
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    • SydneyGrey
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      I got Thieves Guild full price. Later it was 50% off.
      GIVE ME A REFUND!!!

      LOL. Just kidding. I played it and enjoyed it, and to complain that something goes on sale a year later is ridiculous. Of course things are going to go on sale later, or be part of a package deal.
    • Knootewoot
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      So you bought a new car for 20.000 dollar and I buy it from a scrapyard for 1000 5 years later and repair it for 2000. You want to be reimbursed 17k because i have it cheaper now?

      Most mmo's have their previous content free with the base game if a new expansion comes out. SWTOR, WOW are good examples and only a few exceptions are there.
      Edited by Knootewoot on March 30, 2018 5:13PM
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    • JasonSilverSpring
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      This is crazy. The most expensive version of Far Cry 5 includes a free copy of Far Cry 3. I guess Ubisoft should refund everyone that bought Far Cry 3? I bought a Google Pixel 2 XL for full price at launch. Now they are heavily discounted ($300 off, buy one get one free, etc.). I guess Google should refund me $300 or send me a second phone for free?

      This is how it works and has always worked.

      And, I think including Morrowind with Summerset is good for the game's health. I also greatly suspect that Morrowind will still be included with Summerset even after launch. The base game without Morrowind is not even available on the ESO store anymore. You can buy the base game with Morrowind for about $20 now.
    • zaria
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      jesus.. people are stupid

      EDIT: also been playing since launch.. and i guess i could be more constructive, as this is common practice in MMO's otherwise people would be paying thousands of dollars to try something they may not even like.

      do you want new players to play with? do you want a healthy game? its silly how you could be so ignorant and selfish and think you deserve something. like you said you have put over 2k hours into the game... YOU GOT WAY MORE THAN YOU PAID OUT OF IT.
      also... first!
      +Awesome,
      no if an movie play on TV one year after you watched it in an theater you can not require an refund of the ticket.

      And old games are cheaper, bundles with all the dlc tend to cost less than the original game.
      For MMO its also an standard to bundle old expansions with the main game after some years.
      In 2020 ESO might well come with Morrowind and Summerset bundled, it will not come with murkmine who came out in 2019 nor the next expansion.
      Grinding just make you go in circles.
      Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
    • Waffennacht
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      I would be lying if I said I wasn't miffed

      But I do want more people have BGs
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    • thedude33
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      Do you also complain when the new phone, new car, new PC/laptop that you paid for last year are all cheaper this year for new buyers?
    • QuebraRegra
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      I have an idea, let's compile a HUGE list of all the times that ZOS has shown complete disregard for it's veteran playerbase.

      I'll start: LEVELING REWARDS

      I guess they feel they already have our money... new cows incoming to milk.
    • JD2013
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      I have an idea, let's compile a HUGE list of all the times that ZOS has shown complete disregard for it's veteran playerbase.

      I'll start: LEVELING REWARDS

      I guess they feel they already have our money... new cows incoming to milk.

      Maybe make a thread if you want to lay your points out in a constructive manner? :smile:
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      Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
    • Beardimus
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      So we all saw that ZoS is offering a free copy of Morrowind to those who are going to buy Summerset. The question is: what are you going to offer those of us who already bought the Morrowind expansion?

      I paid eighty-***-dollars for Morrowind, and from your own press releases ZoS is offering us nothing. Nada. Zilch. *** All. ZoS, you already screw us over with $60 motif books, and $50 assistants, and $130 houses. You screw over Australian and New Zealand players but locking them out of competitions. You are currently screwing veteran players by offering next to nothing new in the holiday event reward boxes. You are currently screwing us all over buy continuing to limit old items to $4 lootboxes when world-over lootboxes are being made illegal. Gameplay is half-arsed, all the effort we put into crafting and research is being undone and made pay-to-win. Literally all new content is being marketed towards the handful of new players that pop up per announcement, while veteran players who have been here for years and put hundreds of dollars and thousands of hours into this game are stampeding towards the cliffs of "Cancel Subscription" and "Delete Game".

      So, tell me, what are you going to do for us veteran players that will stop us cancelling our subscriptions and bad-mouthing you to the world? Because, honestly, I'm this close to giving you up. I've put 2577 hours into this game, and up until recently I still loved it; but with all of this, I am having a very, very difficult time remembering why.

      Seriously entitled. It's £20 who cares if other players get a better deal a year later. It will help population in particular in BG.

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    • Gargath
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      So we all saw that ZoS is offering a free copy of Morrowind to those who are going to buy Summerset. The question is: what are you going to offer those of us who already bought the Morrowind expansion?

      You may wait with me :).
      I'll just wait another year for another chapter and then they will give me Summerset for free :).
      Edited by Gargath on March 30, 2018 5:45PM
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    • QuebraRegra
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      See, stuff like this could be ameliorated by them doing something like, "Aaaand for our loyal subscribers, 5000 crowns to play with as you wish!"

      that will happen right after OBLIVION freezes over.

      My wrath could be assuaged if they offered a goat mount tho ;)
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