Siphoning strikes

Put it back how it was pre-morrowind. (Return repentence too whilst we're at it) The changes to these skills were not in line with the changes to other class sustain skills. (affected NB tank and stamplar too much.)

OR

make executioner proc off dodge (blur or physical roll)

&

put maim on a non-pet skill, and change the pets to proc a 'taunt the enemy furthest from the nb'

StamDK: Removed from the game.

Warden: changed the name to mushroom knight.

Permafrost: changed with take flight.

thats it. Now I don't have to make a choice between personal fun and meta. I can have both.

DK:

• Change wings back to four seconds. Remove the extra damage from dragon fire scale and add four seconds snare/root removal & immunity. Make reflective scale work for 3 projectiles per target (or up to 6 targets if this is too much server-side processing). Creates an interesting choice between reflecting projectiles from multiple targets vs more mobility to get to cover faster.
• Add a useful feature to igneous weapons. Every other class's source of major brutality has useful secondary effects--resources (warden), healing (sorc), or damage (NB, and yes, I know no one uses power extraction). Yes, templars don't have a class-based access to major brutality either, but WRT DKs, igneous weapons is very expensive waste of magicka. Add a useful secondary effect. Move major brutality to the base skill, then add to igneous weapons: "While active, light attacks have a 10% chance to grant you minor heroism for 3 seconds." This helps with sustain through battle roar, and creates an interesting choice between igneous weapons and molten armaments. Your heavy attacks can hit harder, or your light attacks can proc a useful buff.
• Cauterize. Firstly, the "scaling with highest statistics" part of flames of oblivion should be moved to the base skill so that cauterize can be used by stamina DKs. Next, keep the same duration but change the ability to: "Cauterize summons three motes of cleaning fire. Each time an ally drops below 50% health within 8m, a mote of fire is consumed healing them for XX. This ability has a cooldown of 5 seconds per target." This would give DK healers an interesting pre-cast ability that can be used to save low health targets. The overall healing output of the ability is the same, but it loses it's random nature. Currently, most ticks of cauterize are wasted because they tick when no one needs healing. This change eliminates that randomness. The range is kept short but omnidirectional to differentiate it from warden & templar heals that are conal & longer range. The ability also works on yourself, hence the cooldown per target. It would be a little overtuned for PvP and perhaps tanking as well if it could proc multiple times on a single target in a short window. Keeping a 5 second cooldown ensures it has the same self-healing output as it currently does on live. This rework also creates interesting counter play in PvP--the class without an execute has an anti-execute heal.

Warden

winters embrace

Arctic wind:
This ability now heals 10% of your max health on cast and 20% of your max health over 10 seconds (2% per second)
Morph 1 - polar wind: no longer heals an ally; instead this morph grants you minor vitality, increasing healing received by 8% for the duration.
Morph 2 - arctic blast: now deals damage every second equal to 5% of your max health to nearby enemies.

green balance

Nature's grasp:
This ability now heals both you and the target instantly.
Morph 1 - bursting vines: this ability now stuns all enemies within 8 yards of the target for 1 second.
Morph 2 - nature's embrace: renamed this morph to entangling vines. This morph now costs stamina and targets an enemy, pulling you to the target and immobilizing it for 1 second.

animal companions

Swarm:
No changes to base ability.
Morph 1 - fetcher infection: this ability now costs stamina. No longer deals additional damage on every other cast; instead casting this on an enemy already effected by fetcher infection consumes the swarm, dealing 10 seconds worth of damage instantly and refreshing the duration.
Morph 2 - growing swarm: this morph now targets a ground area, dealing damage each second to all enemies in an 6m radius over 12 seconds. Every 3 seconds the damage is increased by 50% and radius by 2 meters, up to a maximum of 150% extra damage and 12m radius.

coplannb16_ESO wrote: »

DK
-> bring back original flames of oblivion
-> make Burning Embers inherit the range of the weapon used (Bow/Staffs 28m, 1-h/2H 6m), change animation accordingly (CoA I Endboss has a ranged/bow version)
-> completely rework Flame Lash and its morphs (cooldown on Power Lash is a complete no go, damage buff on molten whip is utter crap)
-> add some counter versus purge (DOT class without working DOTs in PvP is crap, or give an execute)
-> increase range on talons to 8 meters
-> rebalance wings versus shimmering shield of warden
-> fix passives and rebalance all skills according to sustain nowadays, not to 3 years ago as it is now
-> Flame Breath: instead of 10% more damage of flame abilities make this a fixed damage increase of say 500 damage (scaling with CPs), percent modifiers are the worst in the game
-> Molten Arnaments: the 40% increase to heavy attack damage: make this a fixed damage increase similar to Undaunted Infiltrator set (same reasoning as above)

Sorcerer gets 11% bonus to heavy damage and this change would take away the heavy damage advantage DK's currently have. Given the other toolkits Sorcs get including passive executes I think I'm going to say No on this suggestion.

NyassaV wrote: »

Your path suggestion is pretty terrible. I know plenty of DPS who use refreshing, many who use it in PvP was well as in PvE. Otherwise fun ideas and nothing I blatantly disagree with other then the Path change. I do really love the silence idea on Soul Harvest. It isn't blatantly OP but increases your chance of securing a skill, makes up for not being undodgable anymore

There are several nerfs in general in my post. Moving Veiled Strike to Assassin is a general nerf to survivability for Stamblades as Surprise attack no longer grants Major Resolve/Ward and they lose out on the extra health passives from Shadow as well and while Magblade will suffer more from the loss of Path, they'll more than make up for it with Malevolent Offering changes. Not to mention with Dark Shades now offering Minor Fracture/Breech, it becomes more attractive an option in PvE content since it will increase the damage of all their abilities, such as Strife to further increase their survivability as well as granting group utility that wasn't previously available to them.

It's a series of checks and balances to the class to give it a wider array of skills to choose from, allowing much greater variations in play than we currently have available.

Stam Sorc

Bound Armour
Grants 4% max magicka or stamina while slotted
Grants minor ward and resolve while slotted
Activating this ability purges one negative effect

Morph 1, Bound Armaments
Grants 8% max Magicka or Stamina while slotted
Increases heavy attack damage by 11% while slotted
Activating this ability removes and grants immunity to snares and immobilizations for 5 seconds. This buff is only active whilst the ability is slotted.

Morph 2, Bound Aegis
Grants 5% max magicka or Stamina while slotted
Grants minor ward and resolve while slotted
Activating this ability removes two negative effects, and grants minor protection for 10 seconds, this buff only remains active while the ability is slotted

Offensive and defensive morph for both varients of sorcs. One gives more damage and snare removal, the other provides more durability and a purge.


Crystal Blast

Removed this garbage tier ability and replaced with a stam morph

Dark Hand
Strike at an enemy with a hand cloaked in dark energy, dealing high damage and stunning them for 3 seconds
Cast time 0.8 seconds
Range 6m
Cost 3000-3500 stamina

Basically a class version of Dizzying Swing. Slightly faster and lower range. Gives you access to some of the other Dark Magic passives too.


Storm Atronach

Charged Storm Atronach which is the terrible morph to something a stam boi can use

Aspect of the Air Atronach
Summon the aspect of an Air Atronach, dealing physical damage in an area around you every second for X seconds. While active gain Minor Berserk.

A usable damage ult would be nice, chraged atro is the worse of the two, so it gets axed.


Implosion
Changed to deal additional physical/lightning damage after x hits of physical or lightning, deals more damage to enemies on low health.

Make the passive less random, damage would need to reduce base damage to compensate for higher number of overall procs. Skill is still counted as an execute too.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Malevolent Offering - Changed to a Minor Lifesteal effect on enemy target for 15 seconds and to use magic
Morph: Healthy Offering
New Effect: Adds healing pulses every 3 seconds
Morph: Shrewd Offering
New Effect: Adds Minor Staminasteal

This ability sucks as it currently is. It's risky for little reward and the targeting for it is just a hassle. Making it apply Minor Lifesteal sounds like something a NB would be capable of with both morphs being useful as Stamina Builds can benefit from the Minor Staminasteal and the Healing pulses gives a safety net burst heal every few seconds and while I'm certain the Staminasteal morph will be abused by everyone, I think both are good changes.

The second morph basically just makes the ability a better Leeching Strikes.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Drain Power
Morph: Power Extraction
New Effect: Apply Minor Mangle to enemies, reducing their Max Heatlh by 10% for 12 seconds.

Worst AoE in the game. Needed a real kicker to make it worth a damn and Minor Mangle is a very rare debuff that no one uses since it's near useless in Trials and on bosses but its still useful enough that it would make Power Extraction at least usable.

I use Power Extraction on my Stamblade in Vet Dungeons all the time, it is a pretty good AoE actually, it deals more damage than Steel Tornado when the enemies are at high health AND gives a Major Brutality buff so I won't have to spend thousands on pots. Definitely not worst AoE in the game.

SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Malevolent Offering - Changed to a Minor Lifesteal effect on enemy target for 15 seconds and to use magic
Morph: Healthy Offering
New Effect: Adds healing pulses every 3 seconds
Morph: Shrewd Offering
New Effect: Adds Minor Staminasteal

This ability sucks as it currently is. It's risky for little reward and the targeting for it is just a hassle. Making it apply Minor Lifesteal sounds like something a NB would be capable of with both morphs being useful as Stamina Builds can benefit from the Minor Staminasteal and the Healing pulses gives a safety net burst heal every few seconds and while I'm certain the Staminasteal morph will be abused by everyone, I think both are good changes.

The second morph basically just makes the ability a better Leeching Strikes.

The intent is to have it as a secondary form of sustain in addition to Leeching Strikes, just like you can stack Minor Magickasteal with Siphoning Attacks and get resources from both.

SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Drain Power
Morph: Power Extraction
New Effect: Apply Minor Mangle to enemies, reducing their Max Heatlh by 10% for 12 seconds.

Worst AoE in the game. Needed a real kicker to make it worth a damn and Minor Mangle is a very rare debuff that no one uses since it's near useless in Trials and on bosses but its still useful enough that it would make Power Extraction at least usable.

I use Power Extraction on my Stamblade in Vet Dungeons all the time, it is a pretty good AoE actually, it deals more damage than Steel Tornado when the enemies are at high health AND gives a Major Brutality buff so I won't have to spend thousands on pots. Definitely not worst AoE in the game.

The benefits of Steel Tornado far outweigh that of Power Extraction though. The superior range, the fact it can proc weapon enchants, and that it gets better as enemies health gets lower just make it the superior AoE skill on any stamina toon. The only benefit Power Extraction has going for it is the Major Brutality since everything else it provides is meh at best.

Draxys wrote: »

Entire game: revert to design prior to 1.6 overhaul, whilst retaining stamina buffs

It seems a lot (maybe more than 50%) of people who are active on the forum have a pvp perspective when it comes to game mechanics. (Which is very strange since only a minority of all eso players regularly participate in pvp ... but that is a topic for another time.)

Conservatively, there are at least one million active ESO players (out of the, what is it now ... 10 million subscribers?).
There's a lot of 'shades of grey' when it comes to how people play ESO. Play styles revolve around much more than a simple preference for pvp vs. pve. It also includes preferences for solo, small/medium/large groups ... it can involve pugs, guilds, or a bunch of friends; we have very casual to very hard-core players; we have sewer gankers to zergs; and, we have solo players to pugs to raid guilds/groups.

Considering the number of ESO accounts and the wide variety in play styles, for some reason people occasionally attempt to justify a suggested change to a particular skill/morph/passive by saying 'no one ever uses' or 'it's useless' ... which, when you think about it ... is no justification at all because there is no way we could possible know that. IMO it comes off as if the person had said "I want this change because it suits me better, it's better for my preferred play style." Look, all I'm saying is if you are going to give a reason for your proposed change, give us a real reason(s) (why you think it would be better, how it would help, what play style benefits, etc.). Doing so makes it easier for others to understand your point of view and invites discussion. Saying 'it's useless' or 'no one ever uses it' is more of an invitation to argue.

Also, it might be nice to keep in mind that some skills are utility skills (the primary purpose of the skill is not for the 'damage' done ... but the utility). Every class needs some utility skills ... just because a person doesn't use or need a particular utility skill doesn't mean that skill is not useful to others. As with any utility skill/morph, some will be better suited for beginner players, others for more advanced players. Of the more niche skills/morphs, some will be a better fit in pvp, while others in pve. Some are useful soloing, and others are useful in a group setting. Most skills will be useful to most players in a given class, but every class will have at least 1 or 2 skills/passives geared for a more niche play style, which is how it should be.

.... Just saying.

Anyway, I like reading the suggestions made by people.

aeowulf wrote: »

I would remove all class skill lines, make any three accessible to any one character, depending on the allocation of the first three 'class' tree-unique skill points.

bam, all class balance sorted, forever.

Yea, no. That would cause a balance nightmare.

Magicka templar

I'm coming at this from a PVP perspective. In PVP, magplar is supposed to be a slow class that wins through having a strong house. That can only work under two conditions:
1. It's dangerous for opponents to get close to the magplar.
2. Opponents have an incentive not to just sit outside the "house" and attack the magplar from range.

Currently neither of those conditions is true. Here are some changes that could actually make magplar have a formidable house.

Solar Form (replacement for Sun Shield)
Surround yourself with solar rays, gaining Major Evasion and Minor Protection for 6 seconds. Nearby enemies take X Magic Damage when the shield is activated. Costs 1850 magicka.

Blazing Form (replacement for Blazing Shield)
Surround yourself with solar rays, gaining Major Evasion and Minor Protection for 8 seconds. Nearby enemies take X Fire Damage when the shield is activated. While Blazing Form is active, blocking direct damage deals X Fire Damage to the attacker.

Radiant Form (replacement for Radiant Ward)
Surround yourself with solar rays, gaining Major Evasion and Minor Protection for 8 seconds. Nearby enemies no longer take damage when the shield is activated. Instead, while Radiant Form is active, blocking direct damage increases the duration by 2 seconds.

Changing Sun Shield in this way would give magplars a useful Aedric Spear ability to slot on the backbar, meaning we can finally have the Spear Wall and Piercing Spear passives apply on both bars.

Puncturing Strikes
The spear needs to deal 170% damage to the nearest enemy instead of 140%. This is partially to compensate for the skill's atrocious targeting and scaling, which ZOS seems unable or unwilling to address.

Toppling Charge No longer has a minimum range and has interesting utility. The current cast-time interrupt mechanic is useless 9 out of 10 times.
Impale all enemies in the area with a divine lance, stunning all nearby enemies in front of you for 3 seconds, reducing their movement speed by 20% for 8 seconds, and granting you Minor Berserk for 8 seconds. The lance cannot be dodge but it can be blocked.

Empowering Sweep Very few players use the current version of this ability in order to survive -- they use the shield or resto staff ult, or if they're a tank, they use Warhorn. Make this skill actually feel Empowering.
Swing your Aedric spear around with holy vengeance, dealing [1943 / 1963 / 1983 / 2003] Magic Damage to all nearby enemies and an additional 944 Magic Damage every 2 seconds for 6 seconds. Burning Light has a 100% chance to proc for the duration of this ability.

Balanced Warrior passive Makes this function like Sorcs' Expert Mage.
Increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 6% and Spell Resistance by 2640.

Radiant Aura Add Vulnerability proc to make this actually worth slotting over Elemental Drain and to justify the high cost.
Champion the cause of divine glory to apply Minor Magickasteal to all enemies around you for 15 seconds, causing you and your allies to restore 300 Magicka every 1 second when damaging them. While slotted, you gain Minor Fortitude, Minor Endurance, and Minor Intellect, increasing your Health, Stamina, and Magicka Recovery by 10%. Enemies who damage you while the Aura is active are afflicted with Minor Vulnerability as long as the Aura remains active.

Rune Focus
Create a rune of celestial protection, which grants you Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 for 14 seconds. While you stand within it and for up to 8 seconds after leaving it, the rune grants you Minor Protection.

Channeled Focus
Create a rune of celestial protection, which grants you Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 for 14 seconds. While you stand within it and for up to 8 seconds after leaving it, the rune grants you Minor Protection. Enemies who enter the rune are overwhelmed by your righteous fervor and are afflicted with Minor Maim for 8 seconds.

Restoring Focus
Create a rune of celestial protection, which grants you Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 for 14 seconds. While you stand within it and for up to 8 seconds after leaving it, the rune grants you Minor Protection and heals you for 1500 health per second.

Mending Passive Since Piercing Spear is no longer going to benefit our main defense, healing, the Mending passive needs to be buffed to compensate.
Increases the healing effects from your Restoring Light abilities by up to 30%, in proportion to the severity of the target's wounds.

Sacred Ground passive Add Channeled Focus' current magicka recovery as an effect of this passive.
While standing in your own Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage area effects and for up to 4 seconds after leaving them you recover 120 magicka every 0.5 seconds and gain Minor Mending, increasing your healing done by 8%. Enemies standing in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage areas of effect have their Movement Speed reduced by 30%.

Solar Prison Reduce the cost and make this morph an offensive version of Nova
Call down a fragment of the sun, dealing X Fire Damage to enemies in the area and Y Fire Damage every 1 second for 8 seconds to affected enemies. Costs 150 Ultimate.

Solar Barrage Make the cast time almost nil and give this skill a utility benefit more useful and interesting than Empower.
Cast time: 0.2 seconds: Conjure solar energy to blast enemies around you, dealing [1131 / 1142 / 1155 / 1167] Magic Damage every 2 seconds for 10 seconds. While active, gain 10% Critical Chance.

Dark Flare Remove the Empower and the Defile -- AOE Defile should be Wardens' specialty now -- and make this a viable way to pressure ranged opponents by removing the cast time. The long-as-grandma's-nap travel time can stay.
Cast time: 0.2 seconds. Conjure a ball of solar energy to heave at an enemy, dealing [3350 / 3384 / 3418 / 3452] Magic Damage to the target and half as much damage to nearby enemies.