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Arachnophobia and ESO

  • DieAlteHexe
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    Vanya wrote: »
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    TO ADDRESS THE OP'S QUESTION, as the higher percentage of responders in this thread have ignored trying to do...I wish I knew how to code, I would be right on trying to write an add-on. I will ask a friend of mine who is familiar with Skyrim mod coding if such a thing might be possible with a game like this. It's not reasonable to expect the devs to do something about it as arachnophobia is just one of dozens of potential phobias players might have to deal with considering that MMOs are often the only way that some people with social phobias can manage to do some socializing, and phobias tend to run in clusters. I myself am phobic of dogs and you can imagine how much sympathy that might get in a game like this; it would run in the negative numbers. I personally avoid Daggerfall as much as possible to keep that horrible creature from chasing me all over the place until I've managed to sneak in and start its quest without involving it.

    As far as all the "helpful" suggestions...you aren't therapists, don't presume to think you know what a therapist would suggest. It's VERY possible that the OP's request was the suggestion OF a therapist. Exposure therapy does not work for all phobia sufferers. Avoidance is an actual real thing, and so is trying to encourage people to be creative so that they don't miss out on life. Asking if someone can write an add-on is a completely valid approach. You can't assume that something that worked for you or your cousin or your cousin's mailman's little brother's roommate will work for someone else, and you can't assume that because someone is not doing what worked for you or etc. that they are not working under the guidance of a therapist. Sticking to the actual questions posed in the OP really works out best for everyone. It makes everyone look extremely kind and helpful, at the very least.


    The most logical answer was to attempt to help OP to seek help in real life. They have not ignored,it could be very difficult to deal with such phobias indeed for I have one as well but I managed to conquer it by myself and I find phobias related to pixel realm very amusing and absurd too be perfectly honest. The comparison of Virtual world and real life world simply cannot go in my book and mind. People have to "understand" it is not real.It cannot hurt you ,but indeed it's far more complicated to say ~ Deal with it, or Do not be afraid. Indeed, I agree the same therapy will not and cannot work everyone , but what OP seeks cannot be implemented. In can be done in theory, but its far more complicated and could cause other technical problems. Filtering certain mobs in RPG or MMO is a whole other story. As for what Therapist would suggest, I know the exact procedure,there are following steps, Talk and always medication will be given/recommended. If you are strong enough to conqueror phobia by yourself, you to have to embrace medications or eternally cover in shadows and avoid it, there are exposure therapies ,special ones and so on.. Let the darkness consume thee? Nay. Nonsense. I've see fire and shadow in real life and would allow I pixel spiders to frighten me? It does not work best for everyone sorry.No. Asking Developer team to completely revamp a monster because of real life phobia, Absurd. I'll stay what I say before and do not mistake me. I wish OP all the best but the in game forums is not to place to solve a phobia issue.

    Kind Regards


    Vanya

    Vanya, you expect rational behaviour which is not commonly found in situations like this. It's all well and good to say "it's not real" but the amygdala has already raced on ahead, sirens blaring, claxons at full decibel level. The rational brain is shouted down. Now, through stubborn, mindful, repetitive work, this can be overcome, usually. We are all different and whilst CBT does work for many, it's not "The Solution" for all. Empathy with support.

    I also think it's a bit rude to belittle the OP's wishful desire as "absurd". No harm in asking (especially the add-on community) as this sort of thing HAS been done before in other games.

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  • MornaBaine
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    I've long wondered why games seem to love car-sized spiders so much. I mean really, what's the point? The wasps and spiders in this game creep me out as well. I'm fortunate in that my own phobia is not so bad that I can't do content with them (or I basically wouldn't be able to play this game at all) but I enjoy the game FAR LESS when I am having to deal with them and will typically avoid them if I can.
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  • Danikat
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    Also, for all the people saying to seek help one of the most common recommendations from professional for people with a phobia is to avoid the thing you're afraid of, or to avoid looking at it if you can't avoid it completely.

    Is that not exactly what the OP is trying to do?
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  • Gargath
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    I'd like to have a physical skill of a big boot stomping on a spider with a squeeky sound :).
    Honestly, I dislike and hate spiders, but in this game I can kill them while being far away, so I just do it with real pleasure.
    They cannot bite you from the screen :).
    Edited by Gargath on March 25, 2018 11:32AM
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  • Elsonso
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    So, spiders can be a big problem. That said, I'm not phobic about them, in fact we have TONS of them around here and I really love misty mornings when I can go see their overnight webs with dew on them. Spectacular.

    Hopefully, you don't live near me! I am OK with spiders, but they have to go about their business away from mine. Then we get along just fine. If they make it their business to be in mine, one of us is going to end up unhappy. So far, it has always been them, for the short amount of time they could possibly experience "unhappy".

    The great thing about spiders in ESO is that they die. They die in a very satisfying manner, especially when using a flame enchantment.
    If no names available, it is still possible to train a neural network to detect spiders on the screen and overdraw them, but it almost sounds like overkill.

    Almost? :smile:
    Minyassa wrote: »
    TO ADDRESS THE OP'S QUESTION, as the higher percentage of responders in this thread have ignored trying to do...I wish I knew how to code, I would be right on trying to write an add-on.

    As far as all the "helpful" suggestions...you aren't therapists

    The only things that a forum for a computer game can provide, constructively, are ways to get past the phobia.

    The spiders are in the game for precisely the reason that they illicit a negative response. Monsters have to be something that people want to kill. They have to have an element of frightening to them. We cannot expect ZOS to block or remove them for a phobia, because they are there intentionally for the very reason that triggers the phobia.

    Within the ToS, we cannot write a mod that will hide spiders, nor can we write an add-on that does the same. Realistically, the only thing that can be done in this game is to move past the phobia, or stay away from the spiders.

    Moving past the spiders can be done in a number of ways, which have been suggested. Personally, I would not involve therapy as one of them, unless the phobia is causing problems in other parts of the person's daily life. At that point, however, it is unlikely that they would be complaining in a computer game forum about spiders.
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    I've long wondered why games seem to love car-sized spiders so much. I mean really, what's the point? The wasps and spiders in this game creep me out as well. I'm fortunate in that my own phobia is not so bad that I can't do content with them (or I basically wouldn't be able to play this game at all) but I enjoy the game FAR LESS when I am having to deal with them and will typically avoid them if I can.

    I know. In real life, if I saw a spider the size of a small dog, I would quickly go the other way. After taking a picture. Same thing if I ever came across a wasp that could carry off a small dog.

    They are large for two reasons that I can think of. First, big monsters are scarier looking than little ones. Second, it is easier to hit them when they are large.
    Edited by Elsonso on March 25, 2018 11:40AM
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  • Vanya
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Fact: most people dislike spiders. Comes from our genetic coding. Our brains are designed to dislike crawling and scuttling.

    Also fact: people with specific phobias can't just "get over it". It is almost identicle to having a panic attack and telling the person "just calm down." It takes counseling, exposure therapy, medications, and many other treatments (sometimes multiple for one person) just to be able to deal with it.

    While I'm not going to sit here and tell zos not to make giant spiders (as others mentioned, staple RPG element and is going nowhere), I think it'd be fair to stop telling the OP to "seek help" or get over it. It's also a fair and genuine request of an addon writer's time.
    No one cares so it's in a spoiler: I have apiphobia, and it is typically triggered by buzzing because I got stung in my ear as a child. I have panicked and ran into traffic due to a sudden wasp near my ear.

    ^^^^ This.

    Folk who haven't encountered phobias cannot begin to understand what it's like and they are usually the ones who proffer "get over it" commentary.

    Empathy, it's a good thing and it costs nothing.

    It's often greatly misconceived as well. I have an empathy for Original Poster and and great sense of compassion. I am a very compassionate person in real life but as well I will tell my sometimes very bitter and utterly honest opinion for its own good and positive benefits. People tend to confuse or perhaps are unable to comprehend two sides. It might "sound" but that is where I cannot help others. Their views and judgement.

    If i do present my opinion and insight It does not mean I lack empathy for particular being. Written messages will be be misunderstood. It is inevitable. There are people who shall pretend "I want to help" , "I am sorry", "I feel for thee" and so on and in reality the fact You have absolutely no idea with whom you are engaging in conversation. They might be more terrible than Dremora of Molag Bal.
    Edited by Vanya on March 25, 2018 11:43AM
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    I wonder does just even the word spider start to offset people's arachnophobia?

    There's this club I go to sometimes called spiders.
    Edited by Wrecking_Blow_Spam on March 25, 2018 11:42AM
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Vanya wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Fact: most people dislike spiders. Comes from our genetic coding. Our brains are designed to dislike crawling and scuttling.

    Also fact: people with specific phobias can't just "get over it". It is almost identicle to having a panic attack and telling the person "just calm down." It takes counseling, exposure therapy, medications, and many other treatments (sometimes multiple for one person) just to be able to deal with it.

    While I'm not going to sit here and tell zos not to make giant spiders (as others mentioned, staple RPG element and is going nowhere), I think it'd be fair to stop telling the OP to "seek help" or get over it. It's also a fair and genuine request of an addon writer's time.
    No one cares so it's in a spoiler: I have apiphobia, and it is typically triggered by buzzing because I got stung in my ear as a child. I have panicked and ran into traffic due to a sudden wasp near my ear.

    ^^^^ This.

    Folk who haven't encountered phobias cannot begin to understand what it's like and they are usually the ones who proffer "get over it" commentary.

    Empathy, it's a good thing and it costs nothing.

    It's often greatly misunderstood as well. I have an empathy for Original Poster and and great sense of compassion. I am a very compassionate person in general but as well I will tell my sometimes very bitter and utterly honest opinion for its own good and positive benefits. People tend to confuse or perhaps are unable to comprehend two sides.

    If i do present my opinion and insight It does not mean I lack empathy for particular being. Written messages will be be misunderstood. It is inevitable.

    But it's always something to strive toward; clear, written communication. That way you can try to avoid misunderstandings which is the ideal.

    I'm all for giving my opinion but not when I think it could be hurtful and really isn't necessary.

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  • DieAlteHexe
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    I wonder does just even the word spider start to offset people's arachnophobia?

    It doesn't with my husband anyway. He can cuss a blue streak using the word but let one show itself and well, I get called.

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  • Iselin
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    I wonder does just even the word spider start to offset people's arachnophobia?

    It doesn't with my husband anyway. He can cuss a blue streak using the word but let one show itself and well, I get called.

    How unusual. It's typically women afraid of spiders and men afraid of snakes.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Iselin wrote: »
    I wonder does just even the word spider start to offset people's arachnophobia?

    It doesn't with my husband anyway. He can cuss a blue streak using the word but let one show itself and well, I get called.

    How unusual. It's typically women afraid of spiders and men afraid of snakes.

    It is. I don't like snakes much. Well, that's not quite true. I'm fine with them so long as I know they are there. But if I come across one unexpectedly? Run away, run away.

    Oh and Himself gets cranky when I catch and release but my defense is they build webs which catch flies and living right next to a stable...we have serious flies in the warmer months.

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  • TheShadowScout
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Fact: most people dislike spiders. Comes from our genetic coding. Our brains are designed to dislike crawling and scuttling.
    Not just spiders, all insects! Snakes too. And yeah, some critters have an "better stay away, it might be venomous/poisonous/disease-carrier" signal coded into our instincts...
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Also fact: people with specific phobias can't just "get over it". It is almost identicle to having a panic attack and telling the person "just calm down." It takes counseling, exposure therapy, medications, and many other treatments (sometimes multiple for one person) just to be able to deal with it.
    ...and all that takes lots of time.
    Something people without those issues never seem to understand, always thinking if they only say stuff like "It won't hurt you..." or "there is nothing to fear", it will make things all right. We know all that, and the problem is -not- an intellectual one where you can just "get over it" with the right information, but far deeper then that...

    Still, pixel spiders -may- ge a good idea to start dealing with this for anyone with arachnophgobia... After all, they can't really hurt -you- from where they are trapped behind the monitor, and you can stomp them into paste! All of them. Everywhere! (and get expees for it, even!) Though I know well enough it probably won't be -that- easy...

    As for the add-on request, I doubt that it would be easily doable without breaking something. But who knows, it might. At the very least it is a reasonable question to ask, see if anyone can help...
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    No one cares so it's in a spoiler: I have apiphobia, and it is typically triggered by buzzing because I got stung in my ear as a child. I have panicked and ran into traffic due to a sudden wasp near my ear.
    Similar situation here... after many years working on it, I am all right as long as I can -see- the wasp or bee, and its not near me. If I loose sight of it, I start getting very anxious, and if it surprises me closely, I too have panic reactions and have jumped into traffic on an overwhelming "getawaygetawaygetaway" impulse. Thankfully its not that strong a phobia that I cannot deal with pixel wasps -though they do make me cringe a bit-, and I actually kinda like spiders - because they occasionally catch and eat those annoying flying black-yellow striped insects. Enemy of my enemy, right? ;)
  • Ragnaroek93
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    Since "spiders into bears" mods are surprisingly popular I would say that it's time that ZOS implements something similar in ESO. An option which can be toggled on/off which turns spiders into bears or icewraiths would definitely improve the game for people who can't see spiders.
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  • Tryxus
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    Hi, I'm Tryxus and I'm arachnophobic. I have it so bad that I can't go anywhere near even the tiniest spider (without my Swiffer, the Spider Bane 9000), that I can't watch certain movies completely (Return of the King) or even play certain games without anti-spider mods. I also consider Spider-Man to be the biggest supervillain of all

    That said...

    I think that with the next update ZOS is going completely overboard with spiders in this game. Up until now, we only had to deal with certain quests that we could easily avoid or have other players kill the spiders for us and with 5 or 6 Group Dungeons.

    Now comes the day I've been dreading for a while now: the update where Mephala of the Triad becomes the main antagonist, Summerset. No doubt ZOS is going to make the Spiral Skein as gruesome as possible, add plenty of spiders everywhere and even come up with new spider creatures (as if Velidreth wasn't horrible enough)

    You can't cater to everyone's tastes in a game like this, but I would like it if the devs could at least tone down a bit on the 8 legged abominations
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  • Ulfgarde
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    Can say that this feature would be sweet for people with severe Arachnophobia. Though I don't have this phobia, there ARE many people with such severe arachnophobia that just seeing a picture of a spider can cause sweating, intense fear, panic attacks, etc. Some friends I know would appreciate this feature. ^^

    For those attempting to apply remedy to the situation... phobias are indeed ILLOGICAL. Most people with these phobias are completely aware they are illogical, but fail to overcome the overwhelming mental urge. It doesn't matter if you go up to the person and say "lol its just a spider ***. its harmless" and show them it. They're gonna scream and rave and knock it out of your hand.
    Edited by Ulfgarde on March 25, 2018 1:03PM
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    re: "It's just pixels"

    Continuing that thought - I suppose you also don't feel awe and amazement at visual splendor in games, don't get tension/suspense/etc from atmospheric horror games, don't feel anything for a climactic part of game storylines (triumph at successes, sadness at a beloved character's death, anger or dislike at an awful villain...), etc?

    After all, that's just pixels, too.
    (one could say the same for animated movies, words in a novel....)

    It's also good to know that there are other people besides me who don't believe in "immersion" (after all, it's just pixels, right?)

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    Aaaaanyway. I've just got a relatively general fear of spiders. I've gotten ok with the tiny pinhead-sized ones in my bathroom, and can admire a fancy one waaay out in the garden, but I'm not a fan of the inch+ ones in ceiling corners, and would avoid-like-hell anything in the wolf-spider range. I get shivers if I turn a book page and have my hand close to a scary spider photo. The ones in Skyrim didn't bug (ha!) me. :#

    Similar "it's just pixels" things - I don't do horror, really dislike realistic gore (Fallout and Dead Island were ok, not going to play Dying Light), and skipped Prey due to Eye Scream issues.

    And a game with really good depictions of height & ledges can give me vertigo-shivers when I look down. Especially if it's one of those "no falling damage, so we expect you to jump down huge pits" games)
  • Vanthras79
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    Maybe you should share your concerns with @ZOS_GinaBruno , she dislikes spiders as well. :smile:
    Edited by Vanthras79 on March 26, 2018 3:05AM
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    Wtf dude
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  • Prof_Bawbag
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    Hello, inhabitants of Tamriel!

    The new.... Chapter. I know Spiders are a part of the lore and whatnot - which is fine, but for someone (me) that's pretty.. challenging. By now I haven't done any of the areas that contains spiders, I've always had a friend / guildie come and kill every spider for me. Hihihihih.

    So, I was wondering, is there a chance someone can make an Add-On / Or Devs can make a toggle-filter, that spawns black squares(or whatever non-spider-thing) when there's a monster with the shape of a Spider, or with the "Spider" in it's name?
    It would sure help me out a lot \o/

    I honestly don't care if I end up with 50 black squares on my screen. I just can't stand watching spiders.. :s:s:s:s

    //Cheers, Liebs. (This is actually a serious(!) request) :|

    erm..... SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    it's just pixels....

    no spiders are involved.

    They are, however, you fail to remotely understand how phobias actually work. My phobia is heights. Not a big deal in the game, but jumping off cliffs and the actual falling etc still trigger a slight reaction to that phobia. Does it stop me from doing it? No, but i can understand why some people's brains still perceive something in game as if it were real. What does freak me out are heights in VR. I know that actual height doesn't exist, but subconsciously my brain tells my nervous system or my fight or flight mechanism that there is a great height there and that does freak me out.

    Not everything is always easily waved away. The human brain is more complex than the answer you or I afforded it.

    Edited by Prof_Bawbag on March 25, 2018 10:05PM
  • ForsakenSin
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    To all those people who have a Arachnophobia i got one thing to say ..

    "Its a Spider". That's not a Spider. [shows a adult huntsman ] That's a Spider.

    DON"T COME TO AUSTRALIA!! ..

    Honestly we have spiders bigger then your hand ( some are so big with legs they can cover your whole face like a face huger from aliens ) and they can just enter your home at night they are called huntsman or bird eating spiders .. i wish i can place a pic of them.
    Edited by ForsakenSin on March 25, 2018 10:06PM
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  • Prof_Bawbag
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    To all those people who have a Arachnophobia i got one thing to say ..

    "Its a Spider". That's not a Spider. [shows a adult huntsman ] That's a Spider.

    DON"T COME TO AUSTRALIA!! ..

    Honestly we have spiders bigger then your hand ( some are so big with legs they can cover your whole face like a face huger from aliens ) and they can just enter your home at night they are called huntsman or bird eating spiders .. i wish i can place a pic of them.

    Genuine question, what is it like staying in a country where the wildlife wants to kill you at every God damn opportunity? :o:p
  • VaranisArano
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    To all those people who have a spider phobia i got one thing to say ..

    "Its a Spider". That's not a Spider. [shows a adult huntsman ] That's a Spider.

    DON"T COME TO AUSTRALIA!! ..

    Honestly we have spiders bigger then your hand ( some are so big with legs they can cover your whole face like a face huger from aliens ) and they can just enter your home at night they are called huntsman or bird eating spiders .. i wish i can place a pic of them.

    Thank you for not posting a picture of them in a thread about helping people with arachnophbia. I can google them if I want to look at them.

    *googles*

    Those are impressive. I see where they get the "giant crab spider" nickname. I wouldn't want to stumble across one of those in my house! But I'm sure they do a good job in their own ecological niche, which is what I tell myself when I'm resisting the urge to squash their much, much smaller North American cousins.
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    I'm totally fine with ZOS allowing for a toggle to turn spider visuals off, as long as it's not some huge coding challenge. But I might just be tired of going and clearing spidery areas for my arachnophobic friend. XD
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  • Danikat
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    I wonder does just even the word spider start to offset people's arachnophobia?

    There's this club I go to sometimes called spiders.

    It can do. There have been times when I've turned the page in a book and jumped because my finger was on the word spider. It's an extremely brief and mild reaction compared to seeing a real one, but still that sort of 'fight or flight' response. Context is important though, when I'm reading a book I tend to visualise what's going on, and I'm more focused on that than the words on the page, so reading the word will almost certainly make me imagine a spider. Whereas I can read this discussion without a problem because I'm not imagining everything I read.

    Although there have been times when I've been trying to explain arachnaphobia to someone - why I don't like spiders, how it makes me feel etc. and I find that almost subconsciously I've moved my feet off the floor and out from under the desk, or moved into an open space in the room if I'm standing up - moving away from places where spiders could be without me knowing. And writing this now I'm having to fight the feeling that I need to check under the desk, just in case.

    As people have said it's completely irrational - the idea that I need to worry more about them being around me because I'm talking about it online - but that's how phobias work, if it was rational it wouldn't be a phobia. It's like watching a horror movie then having to walk home in the dark - except spiders can be anywhere so even if you're sat at home in a well lit room it's difficult to feel safe.
    Edited by Danikat on March 25, 2018 11:08PM
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    "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair"
  • ForsakenSin
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    To all those people who have a Arachnophobia i got one thing to say ..

    "Its a Spider". That's not a Spider. [shows a adult huntsman ] That's a Spider.

    DON"T COME TO AUSTRALIA!! ..

    Honestly we have spiders bigger then your hand ( some are so big with legs they can cover your whole face like a face huger from aliens ) and they can just enter your home at night they are called huntsman or bird eating spiders .. i wish i can place a pic of them.

    Genuine question, what is it like staying in a country where the wildlife wants to kill you at every God damn opportunity? :o:p



    you sleep with one eye open lol

    its not as bad as you might think there is only few things that can kill you
    1. Box jellyfish (Chironex fleckeri)
    2. Honey bee (Apis mellifera)
    3. Irukandji (Carukia barnesi)
    4. Bull shark (Carcharhinus leucas)
    5. Eastern brown snake (Pseudonaja textilis)
    6. Saltwater or estuarine crocodile (Crocodylus porosus)
    7. Sydney funnel web spider (Atrax robustus)
    8. Blue-ringed octopus (Genus Hapalochlaena)
    9. Coastal taipan (Oxyuranus scutellatus)
    11. Cone shells (Conus sp.)
    12. Dugite or spotted brown snake (Pseudonaja affinis)
    13. Mulga snake (Pseudechis australis)
    14. Red-bellied black snake (Pseudechis porphyriacus)
    15. Tiger shark (Galeocerdo cuvier)
    16. Tiger snake (Notechis scutatus)
    17. Great white shark (Carcharodon carcharias)
    18. Yellow-bellied sea snake (Pelamis platurus)
    19. Bluebottle (Physalia physalis)
    20. Common lionfish (Pterois volitans)
    21. Collett’s snake (Pseudechis colletti)
    22. Highland copperhead (Austrelaps ramsayi)
    23. Inland taipan (Oxyuranus microlepidotus)
    24. Redback spider (Lactodectus hasselti)
    25. Reef stonefish (Synanceia verrucosa)
    26. Smooth toadfish (Tetractenos glaber)
    27. Blue-bellied black snake (Pseudechis guttatus)
    28. Australian paralysis tick (Ixodes holocyclus)
    29. Bull ant (Myrmercia pilosula)
    30. Giant centipede (Ethmostigmus rubripes)

    Ohh and lets not forget heat/sunburn

    And i wonder why i i don't go camping..
    Edited by ForsakenSin on March 25, 2018 11:31PM
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • ForsakenSin
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    To all those people who have a spider phobia i got one thing to say ..

    "Its a Spider". That's not a Spider. [shows a adult huntsman ] That's a Spider.

    DON"T COME TO AUSTRALIA!! ..

    Honestly we have spiders bigger then your hand ( some are so big with legs they can cover your whole face like a face huger from aliens ) and they can just enter your home at night they are called huntsman or bird eating spiders .. i wish i can place a pic of them.

    Thank you for not posting a picture of them in a thread about helping people with arachnophbia. I can google them if I want to look at them.

    *googles*

    Those are impressive. I see where they get the "giant crab spider" nickname. I wouldn't want to stumble across one of those in my house! But I'm sure they do a good job in their own ecological niche, which is what I tell myself when I'm resisting the urge to squash their much, much smaller North American cousins.


    Actually you are right they are good for eco system i had couple of huntsman at my place and i live close to the cbd and most of times either leave them or put them in the bucket and place them outside , they are really good at hunting cockroaches honestly if i can pick between the spider or cockroaches i would pick spiders i hate cockroaches.
    "By many i am seen as hero...as a savior of the Tamriel i will not stop until every Daedra every evil there is in Tamriel is vanquish by my hands..
    However i do this for my own purpose to gain trust of mortals to worship me and to eliminate my competition i will not bend my knee to lead your army to serve you Molag Bal , i will simply just take it from you.."--- Forsaken Sin( Magica Sorc)



    Arise From Darkness Forsaken SIn
    "You have been a loyal High Elf Magica Sorc
    Conjure of Darkness, Master of Magic
    Killer of Molag Bal and Savior of Ebonheart Pact
    Until Dark Brotherhood killed you...
    but now..NOW its time to Arise From Darkness once again..."

  • [Deleted User]
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    Soul Shriven
    Hello there,

    Recently we've had to remove some comments for including images of spiders. For further content be sure to refrain from posting any more images of spiders in a thread like this. Any continued posting of these images will be seen as baiting, which is against the Forum Rules.

    Thank you for understanding.
    Staff Post
  • Vanthras79
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    To all those people who have a Arachnophobia i got one thing to say ..

    "Its a Spider". That's not a Spider. [shows a adult huntsman ] That's a Spider.

    DON"T COME TO AUSTRALIA!! ..

    Honestly we have spiders bigger then your hand ( some are so big with legs they can cover your whole face like a face huger from aliens ) and they can just enter your home at night they are called huntsman or bird eating spiders .. i wish i can place a pic of them.

    Thank you for the nightmares... shivers
    Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.

  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Hello, inhabitants of Tamriel!

    The new.... Chapter. I know Spiders are a part of the lore and whatnot - which is fine, but for someone (me) that's pretty.. challenging. By now I haven't done any of the areas that contains spiders, I've always had a friend / guildie come and kill every spider for me. Hihihihih.

    So, I was wondering, is there a chance someone can make an Add-On / Or Devs can make a toggle-filter, that spawns black squares(or whatever non-spider-thing) when there's a monster with the shape of a Spider, or with the "Spider" in it's name?
    It would sure help me out a lot \o/

    I honestly don't care if I end up with 50 black squares on my screen. I just can't stand watching spiders.. :s:s:s:s

    //Cheers, Liebs. (This is actually a serious(!) request) :|

    erm..... SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

































    it's just pixels....

    no spiders are involved.

    Oh, I'm so sorry my irrational fear cant be solved by rational means.

    Seriously, where do you get off buddy? It's about as helpfull as walking down to the hospital and telling the amputee's to grow a new limb.
    Edited by Doctordarkspawn on March 26, 2018 3:17AM
  • swippy
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    why was my post removed, in between what are now posts #50 and #51?

    the way the thread reads now makes it look like i posted an inconsiderate picture. i did not.

    i was mentioned in a comment later on in the thread, and my first comment was deleted for reasons other than what @ZOS_AntonioP described. i assume it was an accident.

    i just don't want their mistake to reflect poorly on me.
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