Can We Make BGs part of the Base Game?

Zimm · March 2018

I've already bought Morrowind, I've been enjoying the no-cp Battlegrounds, it's a breath of fresh air for me as I stopped playing the game for over a year. That being said I really think making Battlegrounds part of the base game should be considered, I'm sure I could find video of them advertising the game before it even came out with their make-shift battlegrounds, I consider that (almost) as advertising Battlegrounds as part of the base game. Besides that, why would we cut out a portion of the population from this? I know I'd like faster queues and I don't have any problem with other people getting for free something I paid for. Please share your thoughts and concerns, this has probably been discussed previously.

Abstraqt · March 2018

100% should be part of the base game

It would be really annoying because I only got morrowind for the bgs so I'm not sure how Zos could go around this

Maybe the add the ability to create your own private matches into the base game and keep the matchmaking one in the dlc?

Orrrrr just sell bgs as a separate thing?

Zimm · March 2018

Personally I'm fine with just losing the money, a good point I read was Morrowind purchasers got BGs for a year before non-purchasers, I actually just recently bought Morrowind and I'm still okay with losing the $ worth. I don't expect everyone to feel the same though.

Zimm · March 2018

Or at least let ESO+ queue for BG.

Minno · March 2018

Zimm wrote: »

Or at least let ESO+ queue for BG.

Better than nothing. To make BGs base game, they need to add quest givers somewhere in Tamriel. But keep the merchants in Morrowind (that's the reason you get Morrowind, the gear).

Toc de Malsvi · March 2018

Minno wrote: »

Zimm wrote: »

Or at least let ESO+ queue for BG.

Better than nothing. To make BGs base game, they need to add quest givers somewhere in Tamriel. But keep the merchants in Morrowind (that's the reason you get Morrowind, the gear).

They could let players without Morrowind in on BGs without the quests entirely.

brandonv516 · March 2018

Before BGs goes to the base game I think we will have to wait for Morrowind to get a discount and the new chapter to release.

My guess is by the end of the year or early next year. I wouldn't mind if it was released to everyone now though.

Morgul667 · March 2018

Same, I own Morrowind but would be happy to see new players. Open it up

Sublime · March 2018

Completely agree. Let me elaborate on why I'm interested in making ESO content that I paid for available to others for free.

Let's start with the obvious one: The more players queue up for BG's, the faster they get to play. I think this is quite intuitively, so I won't go into this any further.
Directly following from Statement one is that we'd get a more diverse playerbase. This would in turn (at least in my opinion) improve the overall BG experience, as I would get to fight a bigger variety of builds and would get bored less easily.
Having more players play BG's would also make it easier to get the interests of the BG community across. This may not affect the BG experience directly, but I think the higher position on ZOS priority list due to having more players would definitely pay of in the long run.
The feasibility of a matchmaking system depends directly on the size of a playerbase. Therefore simply having more players queue for BG's could lead to more balanced matches and therefore a significant increase in the overall quality of BG gameplay.

Olupajmibanan · March 2018

ZoS devs stated that they eventually plan making BGs part of the base game in the future. No ETA tho, as usual.

Kikke · March 2018

I want more scrubs too kill! open up for the masses please!

Zimm · March 2018

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

ZoS devs stated that they eventually plan making BGs part of the base game in the future. No ETA tho, as usual.

I was unaware but I'm glad to find out, thanks for bringing that to my attention.

Waffennacht · March 2018

Every Morrowind owner I know is for making BGs base.

Omg Imagine the player base...

It would be massive....

And so many taters

Minno · March 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Every Morrowind owner I know is for making BGs base.

Omg Imagine the player base...

It would be massive....

And so many taters

anyone new to BGs shall therefore be known as a "tater-tot"

Sugaroverdose · March 2018

Zimm wrote: »

I've already bought Morrowind, I've been enjoying the no-cp Battlegrounds, it's a breath of fresh air for me as I stopped playing the game for over a year. That being said I really think making Battlegrounds part of the base game should be considered, I'm sure I could find video of them advertising the game before it even came out with their make-shift battlegrounds, I consider that (almost) as advertising Battlegrounds as part of the base game. Besides that, why would we cut out a portion of the population from this? I know I'd like faster queues and I don't have any problem with other people getting for free something I paid for. Please share your thoughts and concerns, this has probably been discussed previously.

There is well-known practice to open pvp content for free when another dlc releases just to keep player population, but i don't think that ZoS consider such practice: even if people could consider buying DLC's or subscription only if they'll see more balanced BGs than get constantly wiped by whole population zergs in cyro - it's "lost profit"

Imperial City is still behind paywall even with it's completely dead state.

DaveMoeDee · March 2018

1. The price of Morrowind will either hit zero (as a free upgrade) or become dirt cheap to the point that the only people who won't buy it are the people who would have no interest in BG anyway.

2. New players will only be able to buy the game with Morrowind included.

So this is a problem that will go away.

Autumnhart · March 2018

Agreed.

MurderMostFoul · March 2018

Hopefully:

New Chapter = BGs added to base game

Grimlok_S · March 2018

Welp, new chapter = morrowind included in pre-order.

Close enough?

Beardimus · March 2018

I only got MW for BG, as did most I know but I'm still in agreement, make it base game or at least ESO Plus free.

Sugaroverdose · March 2018

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Welp, new chapter = morrowind included in pre-order.

Close enough?

it actually requires to pay, so no it's not that close as this topic asks

Zimm · March 2018

Sugaroverdose wrote: »

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Welp, new chapter = morrowind included in pre-order.

Close enough?

it actually requires to pay, so no it's not that close as this topic asks

I do hope it brings in more players, hopefully people waiting on a good deal will find this sufficient, alas I would prefer it be part of the base game.

Zimm · March 2018

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Welp, new chapter = morrowind included in pre-order.

Close enough?

I'm not complaining that they included it but I still maintain BGs should be base game.