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Account-wide Achievement tracking
LittlePumpkin030
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Dear @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_MichaelM @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_MichaelServotte
As I have now a lot of chars and toons I come across a huge Issue. Achievements.
I have a small Guild and of course I do have 2 Chars I always play with. My main DD and Main Tank. Problem here is when we are a dungeon group and a Tank is missing, I go with my tank, and we achieved for example a no death in a DLC Dungeon, which are known to be not easy on veteran mode.
Then the next day I go with my other char, because this is what is required and we achieved the hard mode achievement on the same dungeon. now I have achieved both hard mode and no death, but still no reward for me as long as I have the chance to go with the same character again and achieve it again. Which is quite hard to do, specially for no death runs.
So my generell request is to make the unlockable goodies like skins etc. - achievements account wide.
As an Example:
Fang Lair Challenger
Complete the listed achievements for Veteran Fang Lair.
Fang Lair Conqueror
Let Bygones Be Bygones
Not a Statistic
The Quick and the Dead
Which awards the Worm Wizard Personality,
I would like to complete the 4 listed achievements on different characters!
So Let Bygones Be Bygones and Not a Statistic on one character and the other two on a different character, and still have it count towards the completion of Fang Lair Challenger so you could get the Worm Wizard Personality.
As the dungeon rewards are great and a very nice idea, but not always possible to get because the achievements are earned with another character.
So please ZOS do what you always do and listen to your community
All of my guild members have the same request, so we are already 48 People in need of Account wide achievements
Thank you
Edited by LittlePumpkin030 on March 23, 2018 3:09PM As I have now a lot of chars and toons I come across a huge Issue. Achievements.
I have a small Guild and of course I do have 2 Chars I always play with. My main DD and Main Tank. Problem here is when we are a dungeon group and a Tank is missing, I go with my tank, and we achieved for example a no death in a DLC Dungeon, which are known to be not easy on veteran mode.
Then the next day I go with my other char, because this is what is required and we achieved the hard mode achievement on the same dungeon. now I have achieved both hard mode and no death, but still no reward for me as long as I have the chance to go with the same character again and achieve it again. Which is quite hard to do, specially for no death runs.
So my generell request is to make the unlockable goodies like skins etc. - achievements account wide.
As an Example:
Fang Lair Challenger
Complete the listed achievements for Veteran Fang Lair.
Fang Lair Conqueror
Let Bygones Be Bygones
Not a Statistic
The Quick and the Dead
Which awards the Worm Wizard Personality,
I would like to complete the 4 listed achievements on different characters!
So Let Bygones Be Bygones and Not a Statistic on one character and the other two on a different character, and still have it count towards the completion of Fang Lair Challenger so you could get the Worm Wizard Personality.
As the dungeon rewards are great and a very nice idea, but not always possible to get because the achievements are earned with another character.
So please ZOS do what you always do and listen to your community
All of my guild members have the same request, so we are already 48 People in need of Account wide achievements
Thank you
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.11 -
commdt✭✭✭✭Don't. I like to hear "how did you do vMA on your tank?". And some of my friends are proud of completing vAS HM on their stamina NB khajiits. Achievements are good as they areRawr5 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.0 -
KiraTsukasa✭✭✭✭✭It's good enough that the dye unlocks are per account. The achievements serve as a good "what to do" list for each character.7 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭Don't. I like to hear "how did you do vMA on your tank?". And some of my friends are proud of completing vAS HM on their stamina NB khajiits. Achievements are good as they are
you could have a note next to it, where it says with what char you made it. Problem solved0 -
Malthorne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Achievements should be account wide but also trackable per character for those that need to be rewarded for getting level 10 Hero over and over.Edited by Malthorne on March 23, 2018 12:24PM9 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭Achievements should be account wide but also trackable per character for those that need to be rewarded for getting level 10 Hero over and over.
That would be a good solution. Specially for those who want to do all the achievements with every single character again. Or like collecting stuff like sky shards or what so ever.3 -
commdt✭✭✭✭LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.
Depends on the content. Some is faceroll for a tank, and for some no-death runs fully depends on a tank (for DDs not to die)
Personally Im achievement *** and I solved the problem easily. Im a tank period. No way I will do some progress on my altRawr0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
I partially agree with this comment.
Zos could setup achievements being viewable account wide so a player could see what all they have done and on what character they did it on.
However, this would not grant titles and such nor could it be linked into chat.
Simple enough solution that should help OP and the small group of completionists that have asked for this yet keep the achievements per character clean as it is now for those of us that want titles to remain with the character that earned it.2 -
Gralor✭✭✭✭✭+1 Account Wide
This topic has been brought up a lot of time, but for good reason.
It would increase the freedom for players who enjoy playing different roles / characters and like to collect achievements and the associated titles / skins / dyes... And isn’t freedom something ESO has always been advertised with?
I agree that certain achievements are not comparable between characters due to difference in class and role, but that’s something I could condone for the greater good.
There are so many cases when I wished I would’ve been able to play on one character and help a group achieve something, but instead had to decline due to limited playtime and the wish to do said achievement on another character instead.
Indeed, it would take a lot of time to recode the way achievements work right now, but I for one would appreciate it a lot.
P.S. The game is growing larger with every quarter. So is the number of achievements to earn. It's close to impossible to even attempt following the achievement hunt on more than one character, which is incredibly hard already.7 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.
Depends on the content. Some is faceroll for a tank, and for some no-death runs fully depends on a tank (for DDs not to die)
Personally Im achievement *** and I solved the problem easily. Im a tank period. No way I will do some progress on my alt
Still... When someone os standing in all the poison or what so ever and they die, because they are not able to move out of it. I still do not get the achievement, even when I stay alive the whole time.0 -
ninibini✭✭✭✭I agree with the comments about combat achievements should be character related.
But some account wide achievements would make sense (trophies, motif knowledge). The outfit system already handles motifs like that.
But with introducing account wide achievements, some new achievements would be possible, like best vma on everything class, etc ...1 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.
Depends on the content. Some is faceroll for a tank, and for some no-death runs fully depends on a tank (for DDs not to die)
Personally Im achievement *** and I solved the problem easily. Im a tank period. No way I will do some progress on my alt
Still... When someone os standing in all the poison or what so ever and they die, because they are not able to move out of it. I still do not get the achievement, even when I stay alive the whole time.
You can be a god of a tank but not be able to pull 15k DPS on your DD. That way you deserve achievements as a tank and you will probably not get them with your DD. Same goes for any other role and class combinations. Some people are very good on magsorcs and have no idea how to play a stam nb.Edited by Royaji on March 23, 2018 12:59PM3 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭+1 Account Wide
This topic has been brought up a lot of time, but for good reason.
It would increase the freedom for players who enjoy playing different roles / characters and like to collect achievements and the associated titles / skins / dyes... And isn’t freedom something ESO has always been advertised with?
I agree that certain achievements are not comparable between characters due to difference in class and role, but that’s something I could condone for the greater good.
There are so many cases when I wished I would’ve been able to play on one character and help a group achieve something, but instead had to decline due to limited playtime and the wish to do said achievement on another character instead.
Indeed, it would take a lot of time to recode the way achievements work right now, but I for one would appreciate it a lot.
P.S. The game is growing larger with every quarter. So is the number of achievements to earn. It's close to impossible to even attempt following the achievement hunt on more than one character, which is incredibly hard already.
I can totally agree on this. As I have a full time job and 9 Characters to take care of... its simply impossible to get them all with every char. A simple tooltip can solve the issue in regards of who did what achievement.2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a no death run requires that no one dies including your character.
A no death run on a healer where you are responsible for everyone's health is different from a no death run on a damage dealer where you are responsible for not dying and following mechanics. Yes? Then the achievements don't make sense to be earned account-wide. Viewable, maybe, but not earned account-wide.3 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »this again...
i'm of the opinion nothing should be account wide.
I think some things should be. I'm not convinced it matters which character I catch that rare fish on (I say as someone who has Master Angler on one character.)Edited by VaranisArano on March 23, 2018 12:59PM2 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a no death run requires that no one dies including your character.
A no death run on a healer where you are responsible for everyone's health is different from a no death run on a damage dealer where you are responsible for not dying and following mechanics. Yes? Then the achievements don't make sense to be earned account-wide. Viewable, maybe, but not earned account-wide.
I agree, but still it is not always my fault when another one dies. if tank or healer doesn't matter and you still cannot earn it when you are the only one getting through with no death. But this was just an example of achievements. It is not the only thing which is bugging me0 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'd love to see a toggle on this. I know that some folk really, realllllly don't want to do the achievement thing by character but I do (I have lots of free time, disabled and retired!
).
So I think a toggle would make everyone happier?
Edit: I speeeel gud
Edited by DieAlteHexe on March 23, 2018 1:14PM
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LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »I'd love to see a toggle on this. I know that some folk really, realllllly don't want to do the achievement thing by character but I so (I have lots of free time, disabled and retired! ).
So I think a toggle would make everyone happier?
Yes I guess thats exactly what we need0 -
Kuramas9tails✭✭✭✭✭
✭Again.......
achievements on a character increases your levels in some trees. Example: When you complete an achievement in a 4-man dungeon, your undaunted increases. So if it's account wide, either you are just given free Undaunted levels or you have to grind 4X as long.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would be ok with a toggle as I like to track my character achievements by character.
I have a main that "does everything" and then alts that only do this and that.0 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭Kuramas9tails wrote: »Again.......
achievements on a character increases your levels in some trees. Example: When you complete an achievement in a 4-man dungeon, your undaunted increases. So if it's account wide, either you are just given free Undaunted levels or you have to grind 4X as long.
With a tooltip and character tracking on achievements this is not an issue. it just needs to be programmed.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »this again...
i'm of the opinion nothing should be account wide.
I agree. That includes champion points. Lots of players like to do everything on each character individually, or else to have the option to play a character a particular way so as to avoid, for example, anything to do with the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood. I would also like some of the bank slots to be individually held with only some of them shared.
However, I accept that lots of other players prefer things to be account-wide. In some respects it reflects a different approach traditionally between console game players and PC RPG players, but not entirely.
The important thing in my view is that a fair compromise is achieved in balancing both approaches, and the present system does just that. Some things are account-wide, some are character-specific, and I see no reason to change that in either direction.2 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »I would be ok with a toggle as I like to track my character achievements by character.
I have a main that "does everything" and then alts that only do this and that.
Ditto. I do have one character who is sneaking up on my main simply because she's so easy to play and I can play on those days when I quite witless.
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Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »this again...
i'm of the opinion nothing should be account wide.
I like the way it currently is set up.
Unlocking dye colors from achievements is account wide and I like that when I go to a dye station those colors are available to all my characters.
Unlocking pets, dye colors and costumes are only cosmetic items and no reason they shouldn't be account wide.
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NolaArch✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Viewable, maybe, but not earned account-wide.
I like the idea of viewable. Being able to select the achievement and have it list the names of characters you have who have earned the achievement would be nice.Ardat-Yakshii EP Stam NB
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LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »this again...
i'm of the opinion nothing should be account wide.
I like the way it currently is set up.
Unlocking dye colors from achievements is account wide and I like that when I go to a dye station those colors are available to all my characters.
Unlocking pets, dye colors and costumes are only cosmetic items and no reason they shouldn't be account wide.
Yes but if you have 2 main chars running through dungeons you have to do all the achievements with both of them to get the cosmetic items. which is sometimes not as easy as it said.
Starting with getting a proper group together.
and there again I think an account wide option for using it as the motifs on the outfits is not an issue, as long as you still can earn every single achievement separately. just that the system registers that you have this achievement at least once with one of your chars.0 -
LittlePumpkin030✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »LittlePumpkin030 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »It makes no sense for combat related achievement to be account wide with the way they are set up in this game.Getting a no death run on your tank is different from getting it on your healer is different from getting it on you damage dealer. It takes different skills and different tactics for different characters even though you are the same player.
But no death run, has nothing to do with my death. even if a group member dies I do not get the achievement. So has nothing to do with my char at all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but a no death run requires that no one dies including your character.
A no death run on a healer where you are responsible for everyone's health is different from a no death run on a damage dealer where you are responsible for not dying and following mechanics. Yes? Then the achievements don't make sense to be earned account-wide. Viewable, maybe, but not earned account-wide.VaranisArano wrote: »Viewable, maybe, but not earned account-wide.
I like the idea of viewable. Being able to select the achievement and have it list the names of characters you have who have earned the achievement would be nice.
Yeah that is helpful indeed
I might also say again, that I only mean the unlockable things to be accountwide and not the achievement itself. So for example Char 1 has no death from dungeon 1 and Char 2 has hardmode from dungeon 1 as an achievement. the system registers it (As it already does with motifs for the outfit station) and you unlock the cosmetic item, like skin, dye or what ever it will be in the future. But still the achievement is only earned by the specific characters.0
