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Help, Crime Pays co-ords inaccurate

AefionBloodclaw
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Can someone please help? I'm looking for the exact locations of the Crime Pays merchant in Alik'r Desert, and the Destinations locations are wrong, I think because of the map shrinking. But I've searched the entire surrounding areas around the inaccurate locations and still can't find it, its very frustrating :(
Edited by AefionBloodclaw on March 22, 2018 1:34PM
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Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    You mean the thieves guild areas where you can pay to remove your bounty? It's right near the bridge in Vivec city to the right down below as soon as you hit that bridge leading to the Writs, for Morrowind atleast.
    Edited by Cpt_Teemo on March 22, 2018 1:31PM
  • YamiKuruku
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    I stopped hunting for those Achievements but never asked myself why they sometimes appear or not, maybe there is a special chance or maybe another player already triggered the NPC ... hmm
    Maybe come back later to that location? not sure if that would help tho
    *shrugs*
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  • AefionBloodclaw
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    You mean the thieves guild areas where you can pay to remove your bounty? It's right near the bridge in Vivec city to the right down below as soon as you hit that bridge leading to the Writs, for Morrowind atleast.

    Nah, there's an achievement for finding this wandering merchant in each zone, and you intimate him to get stuff off him. I have this mod Destinations that gives the locations, but its inaccurate for Alik'r desert.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

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    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    You mean the thieves guild areas where you can pay to remove your bounty? It's right near the bridge in Vivec city to the right down below as soon as you hit that bridge leading to the Writs, for Morrowind atleast.

    Nah, there's an achievement for finding this wandering merchant in each zone, and you intimate him to get stuff off him. I have this mod Destinations that gives the locations, but its inaccurate for Alik'r desert.

    Oh, woops lol
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    YamiKuruku wrote: »
    I stopped hunting for those Achievements but never asked myself why they sometimes appear or not, maybe there is a special chance or maybe another player already triggered the NPC ... hmm
    Maybe come back later to that location? not sure if that would help tho
    *shrugs*

    Well I don't actually have the correct locations lol, the locations I do have from the Destinations mod are inaccurate.
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    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Destinations IS accurate.
    The thing is, these spawn locations are shared with other objectives and achievements (Give to the poor, Lightbringer) and they are just that : spawn locations. Whenever you go there, you can have a spawn for any of the three events - or no spawn at all. You just need to go to another spawn location, or wait... or come back later. It's RNG.
    It can happen that all spawn location are inactive. Just come back later and try your luck again.
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    Destinations IS accurate.
    The thing is, these spawn locations are shared with other objectives and achievements (Give to the poor, Lightbringer) and they are just that : spawn locations. Whenever you go there, you can have a spawn for any of the three events - or no spawn at all. You just need to go to another spawn location, or wait... or come back later. It's RNG.
    It can happen that all spawn location are inactive. Just come back later and try your luck again.

    No, its NOT accurate in Alik'r Desert. I already read another forum post saying it was inaccurate because the desert size was changed.
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    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • Fleshreaper
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    To OP. The Crime Pays achievement. They rotate between the three that you can get. If another player actives one, it will de-spawn as soon as they leave the immediate area. Not a lot is known about the spawn timer but when farming those, just plan on visiting all of the spawn locations because all three can and will spawn at all the locations. My theory is that they rotate which ones spawn and rotate locations. They may have a spawn cool down timer before they start rotating again.
    Edited by Fleshreaper on March 22, 2018 1:54PM
  • sudaki_eso
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    Destinations IS accurate.
    The thing is, these spawn locations are shared with other objectives and achievements (Give to the poor, Lightbringer) and they are just that : spawn locations. Whenever you go there, you can have a spawn for any of the three events - or no spawn at all. You just need to go to another spawn location, or wait... or come back later. It's RNG.
    It can happen that all spawn location are inactive. Just come back later and try your luck again.

    ^This. Take a look at https://esomap.uesp.net/, search for crime pays and it will show you the position - last time i checked it was pretty accurate. And anitajoneb17_ESO is correct if you are unlucky you get another event and not the one you are looking for.
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  • SilentRaven1972
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    I just checked the Destinations markers, and they do seem to have moved a bit to the right of the actual locations.
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  • AefionBloodclaw
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    To OP. The Crime Pays achievement. They rotate between the three that you can get. If another player actives one, it will de-spawn as soon as they leave the immediate area. Not a lot is known about the spawn timer but when farming those, just plan on visiting all of the spawn locations because all three can and will spawn at all the locations. My theory is that they rotate which ones spawn and rotate locations. They may have a spawn cool down timer before they start rotating again.

    Yes, thanks for that but I need the actual locations. The Destinations locations for Alik'r desert are NOT accurate because of the shrinking of the map. I will have to check UESP.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    sudaki_eso wrote: »
    Destinations IS accurate.
    The thing is, these spawn locations are shared with other objectives and achievements (Give to the poor, Lightbringer) and they are just that : spawn locations. Whenever you go there, you can have a spawn for any of the three events - or no spawn at all. You just need to go to another spawn location, or wait... or come back later. It's RNG.
    It can happen that all spawn location are inactive. Just come back later and try your luck again.

    ^This. Take a look at https://esomap.uesp.net/, search for crime pays and it will show you the position - last time i checked it was pretty accurate. And anitajoneb17_ESO is correct if you are unlucky you get another event and not the one you are looking for.

    One of the Crime Pays locations, according to Destinations, is in the ocean. And one of the M'aiq locations is in the mountains to the south where you can't go. They are inaccurate on that mod. I will have to check the UESP, which probably has the correct locations.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

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    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    sudaki_eso wrote: »
    Destinations IS accurate.
    The thing is, these spawn locations are shared with other objectives and achievements (Give to the poor, Lightbringer) and they are just that : spawn locations. Whenever you go there, you can have a spawn for any of the three events - or no spawn at all. You just need to go to another spawn location, or wait... or come back later. It's RNG.
    It can happen that all spawn location are inactive. Just come back later and try your luck again.

    ^This. Take a look at https://esomap.uesp.net/, search for crime pays and it will show you the position - last time i checked it was pretty accurate. And anitajoneb17_ESO is correct if you are unlucky you get another event and not the one you are looking for.

    One of the Crime Pays locations, according to Destinations, is in the ocean. And one of the M'aiq locations is in the mountains to the south where you can't go. They are inaccurate on that mod. I will have to check the UESP, which probably has the correct locations.

    Well you insist on Destinations being inaccurate... are you sure the add-on is up to date ? Because as far as I know, Ayantir SnowmanDK fixed the "shrinked map" issues long ago. (with version 2.0.7).
    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on March 22, 2018 2:51PM
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    sudaki_eso wrote: »
    Destinations IS accurate.
    The thing is, these spawn locations are shared with other objectives and achievements (Give to the poor, Lightbringer) and they are just that : spawn locations. Whenever you go there, you can have a spawn for any of the three events - or no spawn at all. You just need to go to another spawn location, or wait... or come back later. It's RNG.
    It can happen that all spawn location are inactive. Just come back later and try your luck again.

    ^This. Take a look at https://esomap.uesp.net/, search for crime pays and it will show you the position - last time i checked it was pretty accurate. And anitajoneb17_ESO is correct if you are unlucky you get another event and not the one you are looking for.

    One of the Crime Pays locations, according to Destinations, is in the ocean. And one of the M'aiq locations is in the mountains to the south where you can't go. They are inaccurate on that mod. I will have to check the UESP, which probably has the correct locations.

    Well you insist on Destinations being inaccurate... are you sure the add-on is up to date ? Because as far as I know, Ayantir fixed the "shrinked map" issues long ago. (with version 2.0.7).

    Yeah I updated my mod and those co ords in the ocean and in the mountains are still there in the wrong locations. But I have consulted the UESP locations which are correct, I found the campfire people in one of the locations. I may have to uninstall and reinstall the mod in case I haven't done something properly lol
    Edited by AefionBloodclaw on March 22, 2018 2:36PM
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • AefionBloodclaw
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    I also found M'aiq at one of the UESP locations just then, verifying they are correct.
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
  • Gythral
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    check you have the latest version -. http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info667-Destinations.html & also any comment of the addon there as well
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  • AefionBloodclaw
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    Gythral wrote: »
    check you have the latest version -. http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info667-Destinations.html & also any comment of the addon there as well

    Ok so after reinstalling the mod the Destinations in Alik'r desert are matching those in the UESP lol /facepalm. Thanks all :blush:
    'For love, for friendship and for valour, I stand with the Aldmeri Dominion.'

    Zephyrle Starbreeze, Bosmer Nightblade
    Aefion Bloodclaw, Bosmer Sorcerer
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