Well... It Actually Happened...

Merlin13KAGL · March 2018

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I’m not too much a fan of fighting game mechanics in my MMO experiences.

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

lol @ "Not a fan of combat mechanics"

go play wow if you want auto atk and ability spam.

@Twenty0zTsunami quote the whole thing if you're going to quote.

Game mechanics are one thing. Non-responsive, buggy, inconsistent 'game mechanics' are quite another.

Koolio · March 2018

MaxwellC wrote: »

@Ch4mpTW
Yeah unfortunately it is correct as you can test it yourself in PvP. Slot on magnum shot or draining shot (for expediency) and shoot a player on sejanus bridge towers, you can literally keep shooting them till they fall off the bridge which is what I do all the time.
In PvP in fact yesterday two players with dizzing swing slotted hit me with it and I was juggled as well; It isn't common to see but with magnum shot and draining shot you will definitely see it especially if you animation cancel it fast enough to do it twice.

They said the drawing shot was a bug. If this is intended I’m going to drain someone of Stam today and fear them across the map.

dodgehopper_ESO · March 2018

Being juggled is a real thing both in PvP and in PvE. Rilis' pet daedroths are particularly impressive at it.

Ch4mpTW · March 2018

Ulfgarde wrote: »

This was always the case for many patch cycles. I mean it's a glitch but it was worth complaining about before.

Not sure why so much hysteria comes all of a sudden lmao. There were always strong combos in PvP though so I don't know what you're on about with that as well.

So you mean to tell me that people being juggled and struck with juggle-based combos in PvP is a regular thing? Oh really now? I had no idea that ESO shared similar combat mechanics to Tekken. Thanks for sharing.

I suppose someone is going to tell me now about how they watched so-and-so get hit with a 15-hit hyper combo in Cyrodiil, and finished off with a Nightblade variant of a Shoryuken. I can’t wait to see stories start popping up of how someone got hit with a Hadouken in Battlegrounds from a Sorcerer.

Grabmoore · March 2018

You only get CC immunity after the CC ends. However the CC continued and you didn't break free in time. This is nothing unusual and not worth posting at all. Nice job, getting the Flawless Shadowplayer earlier

Ihatenightblades · March 2018

Kodrac wrote: »

I get wanting to challenge yourself and improve and progress your character; testing your knowledge and skill, etc. But VMA just seems like an exercise is sadomasochism. Blowing a gasket and tossing the controller is not a form of entertainment. I quit playing a lot of single player games for that reason. Games are supposed to be a stress reliever, not stress maker.

Vma isnt stressful for me lol

Ragnarock41 · March 2018

I understand vMA can be annoying sometimes, but you shouldn't have left the ads alive in the first place, just throw your hail-caltrops and make sure they melt before they even land a hit on you.

Septimus_Magna · March 2018

CC-immunity while fighting mobs has never felt consistent.

Sometimes you get knocked back by an uppercut and short after you CC break you get stunned by a soul tether, agony or whatever. Definitely doesnt feel like the full CC immunity duration is applied.

Reverb · March 2018

Don't leave us hanging, what did you think about Circle of Protection? Marginally useless as expected?

Kolache · March 2018

This must be what them dang ol' inverse kinematics means--turn it off!

Izaki · March 2018

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

MaxwellC wrote: »

Not sure why in those videos as a Stam DK you didn't have dragonfire scales for the frozen lake but had circle of protection/preservation on and didn't use endless hail/inject on the dremora so you wouldn't have gotten caught by the DK boss.
On the frozen lake you even left the mobs alive which is a no no; It would've turned out entirely different if you had killed the mobs on the frozen lake and used endless hail/inject so you would be kept in motion rather than trying to proc your maelstrom daggers.

I get what you're saying but this honestly seems like an error on your part.

@MaxwellC That character is a Flawless Conqueror. I’ve Flawless’d VMA on my StamDK (and DK’s in general) more times than I can care to remember. Lol. In fact, I don’t even do VMA for: Scores, weapons, leaderboard positions, titles, etc. I’ve done all that stuff a loooong time ago. I strictly use that content as a means of testing builds (as I said in my original post). M’kay? So while I do appreciate you attempting to go give me some advice, it unfortunately doesn’t assist me in the slightest. I know more mechanics and tricks regarding VMA than I’d like to admit that I do. And for ALL classes (Wardens included). I’ve spent that much time in there (embarrassingly enough).

As for me making an error, say what? There are disjointed adds, bugs, weird hitboxes, animations not showing, “CC Immunity” being nonexistent, lag, NPC’s not following their proper cooldowns and mechanics, etc. VMA is essentially a coin flip in regards to whether or not things go smoothly. And unfortunately, it’s often times going to be incredibly bumpy and rough. Not for things on the player’s end, but from the numerous amounts of things I listed above plaguing the content.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

MaxwellC wrote: »

Not sure why in those videos as a Stam DK you didn't have dragonfire scales for the frozen lake but had circle of protection/preservation on and didn't use endless hail/inject on the dremora so you wouldn't have gotten caught by the DK boss.
On the frozen lake you even left the mobs alive which is a no no; It would've turned out entirely different if you had killed the mobs on the frozen lake and used endless hail/inject so you would be kept in motion rather than trying to proc your maelstrom daggers.

I get what you're saying but this honestly seems like an error on your part.

^ this.

Izaki · March 2018

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

MaxwellC wrote: »

Not sure why in those videos as a Stam DK you didn't have dragonfire scales for the frozen lake but had circle of protection/preservation on and didn't use endless hail/inject on the dremora so you wouldn't have gotten caught by the DK boss.
On the frozen lake you even left the mobs alive which is a no no; It would've turned out entirely different if you had killed the mobs on the frozen lake and used endless hail/inject so you would be kept in motion rather than trying to proc your maelstrom daggers.

I get what you're saying but this honestly seems like an error on your part.

LOL im deaddddd

The level of snark on these message boards never ceases to amaze me

Lol. It reminds me of those people who observe something happen to somebody, and then try to explain why it is that it is the person’s fault. Rather than the source of whatever the problem stemmed from.

For example... If they see someone slip and fall on a wet floor (with NO indication that the floor is wet) in a store, they’ll be like, “You should’ve been more careful. Next time, watch where it is you’re walking. And be sure to carefully analyze floor. I get that it was unfortunate, but you really ought to be more careful. This could’ve been avoided entirely.”

Yup lmaooooo. Like you get hit with two uppercuts in direct succession which is just clearly not supposed to happen and man starts analyzing your vMA strats and ability bars. No joke I was near tears.

Mob CC immunity functions differently to player CC immunity. When you get hit and stunned by a mob, you do not get CC immunity at all until you break free, which is why it is possible to be juggles by mobs. If a player hits you with a CC in a lag free environment, you will get CC immunity as soon as the stun is over even if you don't break free.

It has been this way for as long as I can remember and it's totally intended.