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What is rarest tanking class?

Tasear
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Edited by Tasear on March 18, 2018 3:03AM

What is rarest tanking class? 183 votes

Dragon Knight
1% 3 votes
Templar
14% 26 votes
Sorrecer
51% 95 votes
Warden
2% 4 votes
Nightblade
30% 55 votes
  • Lynx7386
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    Sorc, templar, and nightblade are all pretty rare for tanking tbh. Nightblade tanks used to be more common before the sap tank build was nerfed. I've seen a few templar tanks but none were all that good. I've only seen one other sorc tank (besides my own), but he was decent.

    Of the three I think only sorc tanks are really viable still for trials, and its still much more difficult than tanking on a warden or dragon knight.
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    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Sorc, templar, and nightblade are all pretty rare for tanking tbh. Nightblade tanks used to be more common before the sap tank build was nerfed. I've seen a few templar tanks but none were all that good. I've only seen one other sorc tank (besides my own), but he was decent.

    Of the three I think only sorc tanks are really viable still for trials, and its still much more difficult than tanking on a warden or dragon knight.

    What do you think is that hinders them the most. Also what makes you say sorc is the only viable for end game vet trials?
  • Lynx7386
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Sorc, templar, and nightblade are all pretty rare for tanking tbh. Nightblade tanks used to be more common before the sap tank build was nerfed. I've seen a few templar tanks but none were all that good. I've only seen one other sorc tank (besides my own), but he was decent.

    Of the three I think only sorc tanks are really viable still for trials, and its still much more difficult than tanking on a warden or dragon knight.

    What do you think is that hinders them the most. Also what makes you say sorc is the only viable for end game vet trials?

    Ultimately trials tanking comes down to two things:

    1. Being able to wear support sets and use support skills for the group without gimping yourself.
    2. Being able to sustain permablock.

    Nightblade used to work well for both because permablock could be sustained through siphoning attacks and the constant use of sap essence and funnel health generated ultimate quickly for warhorn. That setup is no longer possible after the changes to siphoning strikes.

    Templars have no means of sustaining stamina while blocking without an abundant supply of corpses for repentance.

    Sorc tanks can still use dark deal to sustain but due to the cast time it leaves you vulnerable while block is down.
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  • Silver_Strider
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    I'd have to give my vote to Templars.

    I've NEVER seen an actual Templar Tank outside of Blazing Shield Templars in PvP. Without any reliable means of sustaining themselves and lack of CC to control mobs, Templars are just a very poor candidate for Tanking. Sorcs at least have Encase for an AoE immobilize and NBs have Tava's going for them at least but Templars just got the short end of the stick entirely as far as tanking goes.
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  • Ragnarock41
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    Anything that isn't a Dk tank is a rare tank when it comes to pve.
  • Morgul667
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    I have seen amazing dk, warden and templars tank that pass vet trials without issues

    Never saw a sorc
    Edited by Morgul667 on March 18, 2018 5:54AM
  • ccfeeling
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    Balance :D
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Sorcs at least have encase as a CC and Hurricane + Surge for a good self heal. With the change to a set heal from a heal based on damage it’s become a good heal for a tank.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Thing is, using group finder, it's rare to see a real tank period
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  • Dapper Dinosaur
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    I'd imagine a templar tank could actually work. They have access to BoL and Nova after all.
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    I'd imagine a templar tank could actually work. They have access to BoL and Nova after all.

    Its pretty good

    One of our main tank is a templar
  • Royaji
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    DK :trollface:

    But to be honest I've seen NB tanks, templar tanks and of course warden tanks. But I think I've never seen a sorc tank anywhere. They are probably the rarest class/role combination, somewhere around DK healers.
  • Lynx7386
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    Royaji wrote: »
    DK :trollface:

    But to be honest I've seen NB tanks, templar tanks and of course warden tanks. But I think I've never seen a sorc tank anywhere. They are probably the rarest class/role combination, somewhere around DK healers.

    Until I made mine a stamsorc dps I tanked with her, was a fun character but like nb/temp had issues in vet trials.

    Still was awesome for dungeon runs though. Mine was stamina based with thunderbug, storm knight, and storm fist using 1h/shield front bar and dual wield back. Back bar was mostly for buffs, blade cloak, and the healing from rend/blood craze.

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    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • VaxtinTheWolf
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    It's rare to see any other tanks when you're the one usually playing the tank role. I'll mark a vote for sorcerer though, as most of the time they are the DPS slowly impairing my vision with all those lightning effects while I'm playing my tanks.

    Recently when I've done my non DLC Vetern Pledges on my Healer I've come across a few Nightblade tanks that seem to be health builds. 40k health, 61k health.. Some of them with a bow backbar for AOE snares. Mine is more focused on passive self healing and ultimate generation though after Tavas became a more unique set for Nightblades and evasion.

    It's a mix of Warden, Templar and Sorcerer for my recent 'haven't seen a lot of' list. Certainly seen a bunch of healers between those three classes though!
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  • antimawkish
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    My perspective is very biased because I run most content with guildies and am very often the tank myself, but I do love dungeons, so I'd say the order I see them is:
    1. DK
    2. Warden
    3. NB
    4. Sorc
    5. Templar

    As someone who actively runs one or more tanks on each class, I totally get that order. DK are crazy easy to maintain resources, they bring some good buffs, and you've got chains so you don't need to understand or have the opportunity to pull properly. Warden get similar bonuses, but with enough differences to feel like they have unique advantages, playstyle, and disadvantages. Nightblades are just fun with their zippy path, nerfed but still very entertaining sap abilities, and some useful tanking abilities and passives, but they feel a bit delicate compared to other tank options. Sorcs I probably see more of than most because it's well-used in my circles, but in general they've got the joy of lightning form, bubbles, and some easy to maintain skills that feel fun and adequate until you start to feel the resource problems in vet horns + bones. Finally, templars have no cheap speed boost or crowd control to help pulling, no great resource help, rune focus is a pain in the butt, and they just require so much more effort than other classes once you get into harder content.
    Edited by antimawkish on March 18, 2018 1:12PM
  • newtinmpls
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    dunno.

    I don't do trial/vet/"endgame" stuff, I just bop around and have fun and am very new to tanking. I'm playing with aorc tank that has all the electric proc sets (off of physical damage, magical damage and when I do damage) dang, I'll have to look it up. Usually I can tank for WB/dailies with no problem but it's not a super/max build, it's just incredibly fun.

    My other tank (so far) is a Templar blazing shield sort, with Ebony to give the team buffs.

    I'd like to find a NB tank I can pull off, 'cause i just suck at stealth (it just doesn't fit me, and it's not fun) and I can't seem to figure out a decent DD build for NB.
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  • Narvuntien
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    The Templar Tank CC.. is Volanic Rune.. its really not that bad.
  • datgladiatah
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    Templar tanks run fine in non dlc dungeons but they provide next to nothing otherwise. If they didn't have to worry about tanking they seem like they'd be nice off healers, but they're really not. They have pretty good health sustain though since they get minor vitality/mending and a lot of protective abilities. But unless you're a sun shield tank, imo, you're not going to do anything unique or interesting compared to other classes.

    Sorcerer is very underrated. They don't have many buffs but they sort of play like a NB healer, they can dps while they tank, give damage synergies, give a much more dependable aoe CC, decent ult variety, good health sustain. Just need to figure out how to resource sustain. Dark deal is nice but not for vet trials.
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  • aeowulf
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    I pug vet finder quite a lot still, working on those slayer acheivements. I see probably 80-90% being DK/warden, DK being the most popular of the two. Then templar, then sorc then NB. Not seen a single NB tank in finder yet this year, and only 2 or 3 sorcs. Templars are very uncommon but are popular compared to the other two.

    Mind you, i've never seen a 'Sorrecer' anywhere ever. Sorcerer yes :D

    Would be really interested to see the completion stats of vet finder DLC dungeons for each role.
    Edited by aeowulf on March 19, 2018 8:26AM
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    My main is a templar tank, and I love it. The ability to self heal can be a life saver. It terms of stamina, you shouldn't be perma blocking anyway if you know how to tank, so you should have enough stamina.

    Having a char that can both heal and tank means that you can have 3 dps in the group for normal dungeons and some vet.

    I am currently levelling up a sorcerer, which I am using as a tank at the moment. The ability to stun and hold is useful, but I do miss the templar heals.
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    Sorc are the ones I see least, followed by Templar.

    Most are DK or Warden because of the pull in abilities, I sometimes meet some Nightblades but it's not often I find them via my guilds (most play more cookie cutter builds).
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  • Tasear
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    My main is a templar tank, and I love it. The ability to self heal can be a life saver. It terms of stamina, you shouldn't be perma blocking anyway if you know how to tank, so you should have enough stamina.

    Having a char that can both heal and tank means that you can have 3 dps in the group for normal dungeons and some vet.

    I am currently levelling up a sorcerer, which I am using as a tank at the moment. The ability to stun and hold is useful, but I do miss the templar heals.

    Have you tried clanfear or twlight? How do they feel towards you.
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    I haven't seen any Sorrecers yet ;)

    /troll ;)
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    Tasear wrote: »
    My main is a templar tank, and I love it. The ability to self heal can be a life saver. It terms of stamina, you shouldn't be perma blocking anyway if you know how to tank, so you should have enough stamina.

    Having a char that can both heal and tank means that you can have 3 dps in the group for normal dungeons and some vet.

    I am currently levelling up a sorcerer, which I am using as a tank at the moment. The ability to stun and hold is useful, but I do miss the templar heals.

    Have you tried clanfear or twlight? How do they feel towards you.

    Yes I do use the clanfear thanks. I understand that the clanfear is for tanks and the twilight is for other roles. The downside is that the clanfear doesn't heal other group members. I guess that I am too used to breath of life.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    My main is a templar tank, and I love it. The ability to self heal can be a life saver. It terms of stamina, you shouldn't be perma blocking anyway if you know how to tank, so you should have enough stamina.

    Having a char that can both heal and tank means that you can have 3 dps in the group for normal dungeons and some vet.

    I am currently levelling up a sorcerer, which I am using as a tank at the moment. The ability to stun and hold is useful, but I do miss the templar heals.

    Have you tried clanfear or twlight? How do they feel towards you.

    Yes I do use the clanfear thanks. I understand that the clanfear is for tanks and the twilight is for other roles. The downside is that the clanfear doesn't heal other group members. I guess that I am too used to breath of life.

    Was curious because I seen and heard of people using twlight over clanfear on thier sorc tanks.
  • Mancombe_Nosehair
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    I think that the clanfear restores a third or something to our health and the pet, whereas the twighlight restores a fixed amount to you and some friends. Therefore, if you have 30k or so health, the clanfear is the better option.
  • Lynx7386
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    My sorc tank didn't use pets at all, Tbh. My bar setup was:

    Shield front bar:
    Pierce armor
    Hurricane
    Heroic slash
    Bound armaments
    Dark deal
    Shield wall

    Dual wield back bar:
    Blood craze
    Quick cloak
    Razor caltrops
    Bound armaments
    Resolving vigor
    Absorption field

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    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • NyassaV
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    People who don't see templars are tripping. Sorcs are less common but since the removal of sap tanking (that's right I said removal! 100% biased comment) there are virtually no full time nightblade tank mains.
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  • DocFrost72
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    I have cleared every normal trial (except HoF, my guild does it infrequently) and all vet dungeons up to bones and HotR on every tank setup you an imagine. My order of tanking from fav to ick is

    Warden,
    DK,
    Sorc/nightblade,
    Templar.

    As for rarity, it is exactly that but with dk at spot 1 instead of 2. Everyone is told dk or bust, MAYBE warden when asking for tanks. If you want something for a 4 person dungeon though, go sorc or nightblade. Dungeons are really easy when three dps are pulling 25+ each, and the tank is contributing 10-15 more.

    I'm also not a fan of alkosh as a tank set. Torug's, sure! Alkosh is effective at group buffing but gods above I hate wearing it.
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