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Klixen
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There's been a lot of discussion lately about the game's difficulty. Some people find the game too easy, some find it too hard.

Unfortunately, I'm in the later camp, I really struggle with it. But I'm not here to talk about that.

What I'm looking for is some advice. Because I think I'm doing it wrong.

I've been playing ESO like a conventional RPG. I created a character and then tried to play through the quests and main story. But I'm finding it incredibly hard. The Quest Bosses slaughter me! Especially the solo bosses (like the ones in the Main Story). I feel like the quests aren't really meant for brand new characters.

I could be wrong here, but I get the feeling that the game is really designed for maximum level characters, with at least 160 champion points and good gear. I've read other posts that say you really shouldn't try to do quests at low level. You should get to level 50 as fast as you can (by whatever means you can), grind 160 champion points, get yourself a good 'set' of armor and THEN start doing the quests.

So that's what I've decided to do. I'm just not quite sure how to do it.

Should I just run Dolmens and Public Dungeons? Is this the best and fastest way to level?

I know that I really need to concentrate on my crafting, by researching traits and deconstructing everything I find, so that I'm ready to craft some gear when I finish leveling. But is there anything else I need to know? Any other advice you'd give me?

Thanks a lot.
  • Zalicius
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    What class are you playing?
  • Klixen
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    I'm a Magicka Templar. It's supposed to be the easiest class to play. But I really suck at it :(

    My hope is that if I can just level up and get some decent gear, then I'll breeze through the content like everyone else does.

    I just need some leveling advice. How do all of you 'power level' your alts?
    Edited by Klixen on March 16, 2018 7:00AM
  • EllieBlue
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    Klixen,

    which server are you on? If you are on PC-EU, feel free to mail or whisper me in game @EllieBlue and would be very happy to help you.

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  • SydneyGrey
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    When I was new to ESO, questing was the majority of what I did. I think it's great for leveling up that first character.
    The game is a lot harder when you're new and don't have any full armor sets yet. Game gets SO MUCH easier if you can gather a couple of sets. Best way to do that as a new player is to just limit your questing and playing to one area, such as Glenumbra. That way, you can gather all the set pieces from that one area, and they'll go together and give your character a lot of bonuses as you gather more pieces.

    The easiest areas in the game are Khenarthi's Roost, Bleakrock and Stros M'kai. Those are the three starter islands, and the easiest content in the game. You might want to do all the quests on those three islands first, to build up your character. You'll feel yourself getting stronger with time.
    After those islands, the next easiest areas are Bal Foyen and Betnikh, and then Auridon, Glenumbra and Stonefalls.

    (I'm writing this when I'm super tired, so I hope it doesn't come out like the rantings of a deranged loon. LOL.)
  • Yakidafi
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    I am currently leveling a new character lvl 28 currently that I have not distributed any champion points in and I only use the gear I find. I am finding I can solo most stuff some world bosses are tough as hell but they should be imo, but delves, public dungeon bosses and quest bosses are very soloable.

    I would advocate to level as you quest, I can't see any fun in grinding to 160cp as a new player to then start doing quests. How would a new player know where to grind?

    I believe you find it hard because you are learning the game and it will take some time to know it well.

    Basics to having a easier time in pve is to have a self heal, best if it is over time, so you can deal dmg or mitigate dmg while healing.

    What class, magicka/stamina focused, level are you?
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  • Seraphayel
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    You should quest your way to 50. The only thing you need to do is to adjust your build and get a better understanding of basic gameplay mechanics (bash, roll, dodge, Ressource return with heavy attack etc).

    What kind of skills are you using? And what armour do you wear?
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    Do you have blue food?
  • Feanor
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    It’s hard to give sound advice because we don’t know a thing about your play style and the goals you want to accomplish. In principal questing is really easy once you have a few basics covered. It doesn’t exactly help that the game doesn’t explain much, and a new player is basically out there on his own on this journey.

    1. Always run food (or a drink if you’re building for it). The extra stats are really handy, although they aren’t exactly mandatory if you are just questing.
    2. Area of effect damage is king for Magicka based characters where as single target damage is best for stamina based characters. You decide which variant you want to play by allocating your stat points either in Magicka or stamina. Unless you’re building a tank specifically you don’t need to invest character points into health. It’s either stamina or Magicka all the way.
    3. Choose skills and their morphs accordingly. A lot of skills have stamina morphs that then cost stamina instead of Magicka, scale off your weapon damage and do physical or poison damage. If you’re stamina based these are your choices.
    4. Use your skills. Light attacking isn’t your only way of doing damage. In fact light and heavy attacks are just complementary, the main source of your damage is skills.
    5. Try to be aware of your surrounding. Red areas on the ground and red telegraphs indicate damage happening in that area. Avoid these. Move out, dodge roll, or heal when you are about to get hit.

    Others will chime in with more but these are the very basics.
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  • Yakidafi
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    Klixen wrote: »
    I'm a Magicka Templar. It's supposed to be the easiest class to play. But I really suck at it :(

    My hope is that if I can just level up and get some decent gear, then I'll breeze through the content like everyone else does.

    I just need some leveling advice. How do all of you 'power level' your alts?

    I will assume you will go magicka.

    The first skill in each of the 3 Templar skill lines are very good. You have the puncturing strikes that you can morph to sweeps, which will give you heal when you attack.

    In the 2nd skill line you have sun fire which will give you a good dot on your target.

    And 3rd skill line have powerful heal skill.


    It is a perfect toolkit.
    Use light armour it will give you more dmg and better sustain i like to have 1 big piece of armour in heavy, the chest legs or helmet. Use block more than roll dodge to mitigate dmg if need be.

    Look for the enemies heavy attacks(bright sparks) to block and the interruptable heavy attack(red sparks) to bash.

    Go get them quests
    Edited by Yakidafi on March 16, 2018 7:53AM
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  • Colecovision
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    Are you playing in 1st person mode? That’ll get you killed.
  • Iselin
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    The basics for 0 CP new magicka players:

    1. Always use food, not drink: if green or store bought white, magicka. Blue magicka + health is better if you can buy it or craft it
    2. Get the + magicka mundus ASAP (Grahtwood, Deshan, Stormhaven.) The spell power one will give you more damage but leave that till later. Early on it's better to up your damage with magicka not spell power because that also gives you a larger pool to use when you may not be all that great at regenerating magicka.
    3. Use light armor set gear from delve bosses, dolmens, public dungeons, chests, group dungeons, etc. Try to get your magicka to 35K plus. Heavy armor will indeed protect you better but the problem is that it's hard to find dropped heavy armor sets that help up your magicka and spell power which you need. Light armor passive also help you regen magicka which you also need.
    4. AOE skills and any skills that do damage AND heal you at the same time are what you should focus on using. It's not much of an exaggeration to say that you can level from 1-50 as a magplar doing nothing but Puncturing Sweep.
    5. Focus on learning when to block, bash and dodge and just step out of telegraphed attack areas.
    6. Slot a self heal but don't over use it: kill them fast before they can hurt you.

    No offense but you're fooling yourself if you think that by leveling you'll be able to do the quest bosses better. Chances are that if all you do is level up you'll just keep on struggling against them. What you actually need and all you really need is the basics.
  • Dubhliam
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    Use Light Armor. Make sure the armor is as close to your level as possible.
    Use at least one full set of armor. (5 pieces)
    Use destruction and/or restoration staves.
    Dump ALL your attributes into magicka.
    Use Witchmother's Potent Brew.
    Don't waste skill points on non combat skill lines unless you already have all combat related skill lines maxed.
    Listen to your Skill Advisor.

    Get a guild.
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  • Maura_Neysa
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    I quested through DaggerFall, Stormhaven, and Rivenspire before I learned anything else beyond playing like an MMO. I played with pick it up as I found it gear the whole time. Not full sets, and not always the level I actually was.

    I still quest to level, because all the speed leveling ways are boring as *ell (This includes the 2 characters I made at Christmas while being CP690.

    Now my first character did end up being a tank, even then I couldn't really solo World Bosses, but everything in quest wasn't so bad. My first character was also a Templar.

    Restoring Light - Hasty Prayer is your best friend (First skill in the tree)
    Aedric Spear - Puncturing Strikes - Puncturing Sweeps, heal yourself for doing damage (First skill in the tree)

    Now if you want to just grind to CP160 that's up to you. I know people that do that to get to CP cap as well. I don't find that fun at all though
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  • VonNelson
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    Dolmens and public dungeon and xp events. If you do all the dolmens and public dungeons on the map you will level to 50 no sweat. Not sure if there is a holiday event coming up too?

    But don’t wait until you are cp160 to quest. It will be really dull
  • Kendaric
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    Klixen wrote: »
    I'm a Magicka Templar. It's supposed to be the easiest class to play. But I really suck at it :(

    My hope is that if I can just level up and get some decent gear, then I'll breeze through the content like everyone else does.

    I just need some leveling advice. How do all of you 'power level' your alts?

    If you are on PC-EU, I'd be happy to help in-game.

    As for leveling:

    It's paramount to learn when to block, bash and dodge. Without knowing how/when to do that, the game becomes a lot harder than necessary.

    Try different classes/playstyles. Different weapons can make a lot of difference and you'll get a lot of skill points anyway, so there's nothing wrong with trying to find the right one that suits your playstyle.

    Use buff food, especially when you're about to do a dolmen, delve or face a quest boss. Even if you're just using green food to buff your health. ESO doesn't sadly teach the importance of food to a new player.

    I'd recommend questing to level on your first character. If you grind to 50 from the beginning, you'll get bored rather quickly and you won't learn much about the game at all.
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    • eso_nya
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      There is one mechanic in eso: Kill it before mechanics happen.

      If you have trouble sustaining: stack more dmg. (glyphs on rings/neck, better weapon, eat hp+max stat food)

      Skills that do dmg and heal u up at the same time r your best fwends.

      (I leveled up 9 chars with questing, never considered grinding for xp to be option. its more like xp/cp and gold r the byproduct of what i do to have fun)

      Edit: Just noticed your 2nd post "im a magplar". Roughly a year ago, that _was_ the easiest class to play, took a long fall from demigodhood back into mortality since than. Its the weakest of my toons now. Shouldnt interfere to much when questing tho.
      Try putting down Wall of Flames and Ritual of Retribution, pull targets with Reflective Light and backpaddle while heavy attacking w/ lightning staff. Try to kill stuff before it goes melee on you.
      Edited by eso_nya on March 16, 2018 8:41AM
    • raj72616a
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      1. spam Puncturing Sweep. best solo questing skill. good damage, AoE damage, and self heal, all in one.
      2. all stats in max magicka. because damage is scaled on (Spell Damage + Max Magicka / 10.46)
      3. use crafted food that gives Max Health + Max Magicka bonus. same reason as above. actually single bonus food gives higher Magicka. but better use two bonus food for the huge health bonus.
      4. get spell damage bonus from mundus stone.
      5. craft and equip a full set of Law of Julianos.

      don't bother to power level, you need to travel around to collect skill points and mage guild lorebooks anyway.

      better join a guild to get some support.
    • WakeYourGhost
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      The Main quest line is a bit of a tough one for new-ish players and low level characters.

      Follow your Alliance's main quest line

      collect better gear, learn farming spots (Do some delve bosses and dolmens to get gear at your level, or close to it)

      Always have a food buff active, even if it's just crusty bread for a few thousand more HP. Makes a world of difference.

      Do random side quests for more loot

      Remember that, as with most games in the "RPG" style, your first build and set up may not be great. It may end up being more of a "test run" while you figure out the things you want to do.

      Don't be afraid to run in to a delve. They all have Sky Shards, they all have average level enemies, and they all have a boss who drops a set item.

      Make sure you go with the right weapons and gear for your class set up - Focus all Attribute points in Main Stat, put some skill points in armor abilities. Go either Heavy or, Preferably light for Magicka to maximize damage. Use Staff for Magicka, resto or Destro is fine. Destro is Fire or Lightning for the best damage set ups.
      If you haven't, try slotting a quick heal ability too.

      As a Magicka Templar - Puncturing Sweep (Morph of Puncturing Strikes) is your Home-Town skill.
      Elemental Blockade (Morph of Wall of Elements) is Life. Put down an Elemental Blockade (Or Wall) on any Group you come across, first thing. Keep them in the AoE. Use Puncturing Sweep regularly to help keep your HP up.

      Measure other skills as you need, test out what works, but keep in mind your main bread-and-butter moves for early game.


      As a side note - Join the Fighter's Guild and Mages Guild ASAP, get the Persuade and Intimidate Skill ASAP, and skip so much BS in conversations.


      Ohh, uhh - Nova makes a decent starter Ult, too.
    • Dragath
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      EllieBlue wrote: »
      Klixen,

      which server are you on? If you are on PC-EU, feel free to mail or whisper me in game @EllieBlue and would be very happy to help you.

      Ellie

      Unfortunately not. I offered the same. Klixen is playing on the NA Server.
      Is there someone from the NA Server that would be willing to help?
    • blacksghost
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      don't rush the levelling..be systematic about the questing..if you do find a boss on a quest is too hard ( I know I did) leave the quest and return to it after a few more side quests ( and gaining more experience) try if you can, find someone else doing the same quests. I was level 50 before I even realised you could pick up food! You paid for a game that potentially could last you many years, why rush to the end?
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    • OrdoHermetica
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      As someone who learned the game with a Templar, there's one genuinely easy way to not die: get Puncturing Sweep (magicka morph of the Puncturing Strikes skill in the Aedric Spear skill line) and spam it. It does solid damage AND heals you AND scales based on your magicka, which is good for a Magicka Templar.

      Also, while the people suggesting you dump everything into Stamina or Magicka mean well, I strongly suggest you ignore them for now. While it's true that all points into your main attribute is how you build for the mid-to-late game (or when leveling a new character after you've learned the game and know what you're doing), in the early game spreading out your points a bit so you can experiment with different types of skills and morphs - and putting points into Health for survivability - is not only valid, but advisable in my opinion. There's a reason the Trainee set gives you bonuses to all three attributes.

      Speaking personally, I had a mostly even spread between Stamina and Health on my Redguard Templar with a good few points into Magicka as well, and I did just fine until I hit 50. I may not have killed things as efficiently or as quickly as possible, but I stayed alive and I learned how my abilities worked - and that above all else is your objective when learning this game. Once you get the basics down, THEN you can worry about optimizing your stats, traits, armor, etc.
      Edited by OrdoHermetica on March 16, 2018 9:26AM
    • Iselin
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      Also, while the people suggesting you dump everything into Stamina or Magicka mean well, I strongly suggest you ignore them for now.

      With One Tamriel they buffed the health of all players under level 34 by a lot. Everyone under CP160 get scaled up but those under level 34 get an extra buff. The buff diminishes from level 2 to 33 but it's quite a nice buff. Putting a lot of points into health when low level is a bit of overkill if done at the expense of getting your key magicka or stamina stat to 35K +.

      For new, no CP players I recommend they put as many points into their key stat as their level number and then dump the extra into health. Then respec that after CP160 when you're using permanent gear, to whatever gives you around 17-18K health with food buff. You can do it with points in health, glyphs, set bonuses... whatever. It doesn't really matter how you get that health amount as long as you do it.
    • Dubhliam
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      As someone who learned the game with a Templar, there's one genuinely easy way to not die: get Puncturing Sweep (magicka morph of the Puncturing Strikes skill in the Aedric Spear skill line) and spam it. It does solid damage AND heals you AND scales based on your magicka, which is good for a Magicka Templar.

      Also, while the people suggesting you dump everything into Stamina or Magicka mean well, I strongly suggest you ignore them for now. While it's true that all points into your main attribute is how you build for the mid-to-late game (or when leveling a new character after you've learned the game and know what you're doing), in the early game spreading out your points a bit so you can experiment with different types of skills and morphs - and putting points into Health for survivability - is not only valid, but advisable in my opinion. There's a reason the Trainee set gives you bonuses to all three attributes.

      Speaking personally, I had a mostly even spread between Stamina and Health on my Redguard Templar with a good few points into Magicka as well, and I did just fine until I hit 50. I may not have killed things as efficiently or as quickly as possible, but I stayed alive and I learned how my abilities worked - and that above all else is your objective when learning this game. Once you get the basics down, THEN you can worry about optimizing your stats, traits, armor, etc.

      Talk about bad advice...
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    • ervanol
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      I am too a new player and still learning and have been where the OP is. Fact is at low levels the game is its hardest. Low health, few skills, low level items and gear. I had no chance against the harder to beat mobs, the purple bosses. In most cases I was helped by other player that were passing by.
      Right now I have a level 50 with 160 cp and those point also go to your low level alts. It is really a game changer for your alts. If you don't have access to the cp system I can still give you same advice.
      Food, health buff, is a game changer. At first i ignored it. I thought a health potion is enough for the oh sh.. moment. Well, without a food buff, health, you will have to many of those moments and potions do not help you because of the cooldown.
      Use dodge and block/interupt. You can lock out a caster with well timed interupts. This is something you have to practice.
      As a staff class you can use a resto staff. This gives you self heals and the long attack restores your magcika.
      Also, use the magcika/stamina meta. At first, I distributed these points as I liked. Not good, the game is not designed thta way.
    • Violynne
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      Klixen wrote: »
      I could be wrong here, but I get the feeling that the game is really designed for maximum level characters, with at least 160 champion points and good gear. I've read other posts that say you really shouldn't try to do quests at low level. You should get to level 50 as fast as you can (by whatever means you can), grind 160 champion points, get yourself a good 'set' of armor and THEN start doing the quests.
      This is poor advice, rushing to level 50. If you've played the game a while and understand its mechanics, getting to 50 is more because you don't need the "tutorial" levels anymore, and now they're annoying.

      If you're new, taking the time to learn the game during these levels is important. I can attest the new players who rush through the game do more to hinder groups later in the game because they didn't take time to understand their skill tree.

      Yes, this game *is* brutal for those using physical damage characters (including myself) because the trade off is more damage for less health (though I still contend the bigger problem is more spells are tied to magicka rather than stamina).

      For spellcasters, their sacrifice is speed.

      DKs are popular because they're neither strong or fast.

      Notice a pattern here?

      This is why the game feels weird to me. It acts as a punishment system, rather than a reward system. That is, until you do get the gear you need to make the game less punishing.

      Note my signature. That's the problem with the game's mechanics.

      I enjoy playing this game quite a bit, as do many, but even I admit it gets frustrating at times because the mechanics seem to be playing against me, rather than me using them.

      I just hit level 44, I think. I'm on my "3rd" character, a wood elf specializing in dual-wielding archery. She's getting her potato kicked. Without sustain and the dreaded 45s cooldown, I just try and try again, spending soul gems. Instead of leaving when I'm a bit stronger, I *refuse* to let this boss get the better of me. I'm an idiot.

      The thing is: I'm kicking major tail right now. Not because I'm "gud", but because the game is punishing me once again by giving me stats well above my actual level. Between 1-50, nothing you wear or use really matters.

      Once I hit level 50, with this build, I'm going to be investing in 100s of soul gems.

      Going to need them for resurrection because stamina builds are spanked by this game.

      I stopped playing my sorc because I felt too OP.

      Now I feel way UP.

      I'll take my lumps before I play a DK.
      Edited by Violynne on March 16, 2018 11:07AM
    • Dapper Dinosaur
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      I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

      Are you incapable of pressing buttons? What issues specifically are you having?
    • Saturnana
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      On top of the super helpful tips everyone else already gave, one more thing comes to mind;
      Are you playing in 3rd person view?

      Because I remember when I just transitioned from my favourite single-player RPGs to ESO, I couldn't even kill a pack of wolves without dying thrice over. Until my bf quietly and lovingly - and looking at me as though I was especially dense - took the mouse out of my hand, scrolled down, and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view. I no longer needed to play in a frame that only showed ~30% of what was happening around my character. Mind was blown. Many wolf lives were destroyed that day.

      Now, you may have caught onto this much, much sooner than I did. xD
      Just thought it might be worth pointing out as it was the single-biggest change in going from single-player to MMO, for me.
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    • DieAlteHexe
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      I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

      Are you incapable of pressing buttons? What issues specifically are you having?

      Actually...the OP is disabled, as am I. So yes, sometimes "poking buttons" (I expand that to using input devices as well) can be difficult.


      Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
    • Dubhliam
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      Violynne wrote: »
      Note my signature. That's the problem with the game's mechanics.

      Are you serious?

      Gear is almost irrelevant in this game.

      Let's take at the current meta builds:
      Mechanical Acuitiy - crafted
      Julianos - crafted
      Hundings Rage - crafted
      Night Mother's Gaze - crafted
      Torug's Pact - crafted
      Shacklebreaker - crafted
      Kagrenac's Hope - crafted

      and there isn't a single 9 trait set on this list.
      If people can finish the hardest trials or Maelstrom Arena in this sets, why aren't they good enough for you?

      Stop looking for things to blame, and start asking people what you are doing wrong.
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    • Violynne
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      lnsane wrote: »
      and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.
      I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

      I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

      Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

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