Yes it’s legit

No it doesn’t require animation canceling, which is legit anyway.

I question how experienced you are

Fortunately, I have yet to be insta-killed by a NB. Oh, I get ambushed all the times by one coming out of stealth and trying to gank me, whether I'm standing on a wall blasting away with my siege, or on mount or on ground. Those being ganked or insta-killed must have some seriously low resistance, in general. On the flip-side, for me, NB is one of the easiest to kill, once you take away their ability to shadow or cloak out. Wimpy-ass way to fight when a NB is attacking and constantly disappearing and reappearing. Sure, tactful and stealthy and all, but damn, be a man and fight face-to-face or a mono-to-mono. It's because they really can't. Get that Evil Hunter or Mage Light on them, and they are toast, ideally. However, I have ran into a couple NB that I'm still wondering what the hell is that dude on or wearing, because it is like hitting a ton of brick or wouldn't die. Perhaps, it can be in the Lance Armstrong or A-Rod league..

Thogard wrote: »

Definitely hacks. Probably an instant kill hack combined with a lag hack. Seen it a bunch of times. Especially in IC which is where the best PvPers and the most hackers spend their time

Forgot 5pc CE set

TarrNokk wrote: »

Only possible with AC?

If you have to ask this, you are not an experienced player yourself. AC is par for the course in all aspects of endgame, PvP and PvE.

l3alls wrote: »

Don't take your hands off the keyboard, or feel safe when you're flipping flags.

This.

If you are built for PvP, and you understand how to defend, as well as attack, your scenario is highly unlikely. To one player, sure, and yes, I have been successfully ganked, occasionally. But not to 3 players, who have time to react to the first one being attacked.

If you are a shielding build, you have to keep your shields up every 4 to 5 seconds, no exceptions.

If you have armor buffs, you must keep those up. For example, as NB, you might periodically Fear to activate the shadow passive (your armor buff) and flush out any cloaked players.

If you are a stamina build, you should probably perma-block while turning a flag. It's one option anyway. Keeping up Vigor is also good, as is standing in Caltrops, as is Shuffle / Double Take / Mirage.

Don't stand completely still. It makes it easy for an NB to wind up a heavy attack from cloak and combo you.

Don't group up too tight, so you avoid being bombed.

If you are an NB, always be prepared to cloak.

If you are a stamsorc, always keep up your Hurricane. NB can basically only Ambush you, not combo you with a heavy attack from stealth.

If you are a sorc, consider using Defensive Rune. It can stop a gank dead, if they don't use Immovable pots. If you are a 1H + S player, consider using Absorb Magic (or the other morph), and you can't be bow ganked. Both of these are long running defensive buffs that auto-activate on a gank.

If you are a mag warden, Living Trellis will offset any attacks with healing. You can also apply this to your colleagues that are standing on the flag with you.

In terms of build, all Impenetrable gear should be your default choice. Exceptions include "rolly poly" builds, who use some Well-fitted, and (perma-)blocking builds, who use some Sturdy. If you stack magicka very high (to 50K+), and you run shields, you might give up some Impen for Infused or Divines, but I wouldn't even do that personally.

As a DK, Templar, or Warden, I would build for some tankiness. That could mean heavy armor, or medium Fortified Brass / Armor Master, or light Wizard's Riposte, Transmutation, or Impregnable, and/or sets like Blood Spawn, Pirate Skeleton, or Troll King. You don't need all, but you probably want some defensive component, like those, in your build.

As a sorc you have mobility, in Streak, and as a mag sorc you particularly benefit from shields, thus it is viable to focus on high magicka and throw other tankiness to the wind, if you so choose.

Of course, I am generalising a lot. This is just to give you an idea how I would build. If this sounds like I am recommending tank builds, that is far from the intention. I play light and medium solo / small scale builds. A set like Wizard's Riposte, for example, is not a tanking set, but just a very balanced set with offensive, defensive, and sustain components.

I won't even mention spamming Radiant Magelight or Revealing Flare, which some groups do. I personally think you can be quite safe from ganks without those specialised skills.

I forgot something: Always have your ulti ready. I tend to withhold my ulti when taking a flag, but if you used it, grab some NPCs and light attack them to rebuild your ulti. A typical build will include an offensive and a defensive ulti. If you get ganked, and your are unsure of the number of attackers, the resto ult, 1H+S ult, Warden trees, and DK Corrosive Armor are all good options to get your bearings. If the NB is smart, they may cloak and wait out your ult, in which case you may immediately attack NPCs to rebuild it.

If you are very tanky you probably don't have a problem with NBs, but it is worth mentioning that the tankier your are, the more of an advantage you have by starting a boss fight.

The sensible choice for dealing with stamblades is not to go after them, but stay calm and let them come to you. It is the one class you can play defensively against and still kill them, as many are squishy. As an NB yourself, you can mark them. As a magicka warden it is possible to catch them in the storm ulti and burst them while they are heavily snared. As a DK, try to fossilize them. As a templar, it can be quite effective to run after them and keep jabbing, since it's an AOE skill that will knock them out of stealth, and it also heavily snares. Of course, if they are using Eternal Hunt, running after them may not be viable.

If you put a DOT on them, make sure you turn on combat text, as you will see where a cloaked NB is going. If you have pet, pay attention to where the pet is going. For example the Shadowrend Clannfear follows cloaked NBs around.

TarrNokk wrote: »

Does anyone of you have ever experienced kinda situation: 3 players flipping a flag in IC. Enemy NB comes outta stealth and kills first player who was stunned till death. Enemy NB ambush on second player and kills him in 2 seconds. Player 3 intervenes but got killed within a 2 seconds combo. All players were cp720 and experienced pvpers. How is this possible? Legit? Only possible with AC?

I think this late in the games life its more of a lag issue\broken game functions, I cant tell you how many times I'm just instantly killed and then look to see 5+ attacks all landed on me in one attack animation? Or Ill get stunned/knocked down with full stamina and Ill just continue to lay on the ground while they kill me, its lag. Also I have radiant mage light on both bars and I shouldn't get stunned from an attack where they do it from stealth.. I still get stunned, not all the time but I would say about 40% of the time that happens. But NB and sorc's do benefit the most from lag.

On a side note I know cheating is becoming more and more a thing as people get board with the game and don't care if they get caught. just the other day I ran across a SORC who would keep going in to stealth every 3 to 4 seconds. all he would do is run up to me and do a small bash attack then stealth out then bash then stealth out, he kept doing this for about 4 minutes.

My ping time bounces from 7ms to 30ms, yes I monitor it when I play.