Moar Stamina Morphs for the Dragonknight

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Carbonised wrote: »

Sure, that's the solution for magDK being far behind practically every other class and spec in PvE, and being mediocre to below average in PvP - let's take away even more magicka morphs and make them stamina instead. You're a stamDK, arguably one of the better PvE classes at the present time, as well as efficient and proficient in PvP, and you complain that all you have is an entire bow skill line, an entire 2handed skill line, an entire dual wield skill line, several good fighter's guild skills and 2-3 damage skills from Ardent Flame (not to mention all the magicka utility skills from all 3 class skill lines, that, while they cost magicka, are still exactly as efficient on a stam character as on a mag character, like wings and fossilize).
This is what we call a luxury problem.

Give magicka as much burst and DPS as stamina (especially magDKs), as well as 1-2 new magicka based weapon skill lines, and /then/ we can talk about making more class skill morphs have a stamina option as well.

Someone is a little salty

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Qbiken wrote: »

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Minno wrote: »

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Nephimana wrote: »

The reason most class abilities are magika is because magika players only have 2 weapon skill lines (destro and resto) mag dps only make use of 2 or 3 skills in the destro line and those skills can't be doubble barred for those destro+destro users, so they need a lot of class abilities. Stamina hass 4 weapon skill lines (dw, 2h, bow, s&b), same sort of thing where only 2 or 3 are useful, but thats for each one. It's fine as it is, but I would like to see useless morphs changed into something more useful, even if it is a stamina morph.
The only stink thing is where all stam classes feel exactly the same and quite boring.

Stamina only has two weapons as well 2h and DW so what's ur point?

You forget about bow and SnB?

SnB is not a dps skill line.

And Bow isn't a dps weapon either try making a dps build using the bow and see how far you will go.

Bow not a DPS weapon......where´s my LOL button......

Endless hail + vMA bow is the most OP DPS boost in the game #nerfvMAbow

Lynx7386 wrote: »

What if igneous weapons was changed to something like:

acidic weapons
Envenom your weapons, gaining major brutality for 20 seconds and causing your light and heavy attacks to deal X additional poison damage to all targets hit.

The amount of damage would scale with weapon damage and max stam. It still offers brutality for the bow builds. It would directly improve dps without adding overkill burst by simply making your light / heavy attack weaves deal more damage.

Make it a sustain-tool perhaps? Returning X magicka and Y stamina when dealing damage, this can occur once every Z seconds?

StamDK can go away from their braindead heavy attack rotation and magDK becomes more viable for PvE. StamDK does not need more damage that´s for sure.

Most classes heavy attack with stam (and mag) builds now, even the ones who do have sustain tools. I think dk sustain is ok at the moment with helping hands / mountains blessing, not really seeing a need for more.

Plus, if stone giant became a stamina spammable, the constant 990 stam return from helping hands would already be helping out quite a bit.

Anti_Virus · March 2018

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I did a dummy test using literally nothing but focused aim, endless hail, and critical surge on my stamsorc, and pulled 20k dps. That's not even using alchemy poison, proc sets, poison injection, or acid spray.

So I'm pretty sure bow is viable for dps, its just more often used as a back bar support weapon, the same way frost staves or resto staves are.

Sadly if you go into trials with a bow build you will be quickly kicked.

Anti_Virus · March 2018

Danksta wrote: »

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Minno wrote: »

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Nephimana wrote: »

The reason most class abilities are magika is because magika players only have 2 weapon skill lines (destro and resto) mag dps only make use of 2 or 3 skills in the destro line and those skills can't be doubble barred for those destro+destro users, so they need a lot of class abilities. Stamina hass 4 weapon skill lines (dw, 2h, bow, s&b), same sort of thing where only 2 or 3 are useful, but thats for each one. It's fine as it is, but I would like to see useless morphs changed into something more useful, even if it is a stamina morph.
The only stink thing is where all stam classes feel exactly the same and quite boring.

Stamina only has two weapons as well 2h and DW so what's ur point?

You forget about bow and SnB?

SnB is not a dps skill line.

And Bow isn't a dps weapon either try making a dps build using the bow and see how far you will go.

Literally every meta stam DPS build for PvE uses a bow.

Yeah as a back bar weapon but not main hand.

Skander · March 2018

Be greatful you can cast some magic abilities with stamina

Ragnarock41 · March 2018

Skander wrote: »

Be greatful you can cast some magic abilities with stamina

like nothing for example?

dodgehopper_ESO · March 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

In truth, all classes could benefit from more stamina morphs, not just DK.

I second this. Toppling charge should have a proper morph of stamina for Templars. Sorcerer stamina skills shouldn't require you to grind through 40 levels of magicka skills that aren't helpful. Nightblade has a lot of stamina morphs. In terms of stamina morphs for DK what would you want? I love playing Stamina DK but the only skill that seems like it might work is the Whip. Don't forget that the passives are part of what makes a StamDK great.

I've always felt though that quite a few class skills should be both stamina and magicka simultaneously.

Ragnarock41 · March 2018

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

In truth, all classes could benefit from more stamina morphs, not just DK.

I second this. Toppling charge should have a proper morph of stamina for Templars. Sorcerer stamina skills shouldn't require you to grind through 40 levels of magicka skills that aren't helpful. Nightblade has a lot of stamina morphs. In terms of stamina morphs for DK what would you want? I love playing Stamina DK but the only skill that seems like it might work is the Whip. Don't forget that the passives are part of what makes a StamDK great.

I've always felt though that quite a few class skills should be both stamina and magicka simultaneously.

stamsorc/dk suffer from the dizzying swing syndrome. a poison whip would open up a lot of new build possibilities,
And would make dual wield sDK viable in PvP.

WhoThenNow7 · March 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

Draxys wrote: »

No morphs need changing IMO, but stone fist is still dumb after 4+ years. Make that a completely different skill and make one a stam morph.

I think Stonefist an earth based pull called tectonics would be good, then change chains to something else. (I'm a dk doesn't need a gap closer, it's goofy as heck too.) that other ability can be something for stam.

Never understood chains when they could have gone with a more thematic ground based pull.

For PvP, empowering chains is amazing IMO- and I have great success with it, too.

SoLooney · March 2018

dks get a good amount of stam skills

sorcs, thats a class completely catered to magicka

what do sorcs get for stam? bound armaments, hurricane. i guess crit surge but it uses magicka

ak_pvp · March 2018

SoLooney wrote: »

dks get a good amount of stam skills

sorcs, thats a class completely catered to magicka

what do sorcs get for stam? bound armaments, hurricane. i guess crit surge but it uses magicka

Bound, hurricane, critics surge, and implosion+general better passives.

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