Removal of Anvil Outlaw Refuge Bank service without mention in patch notes?
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LMar✭✭✭✭✭
✭I still wonder if the removal was a bug or the feature was a bug that remained in-game for 2 years"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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Grimm13✭✭✭✭✭
✭Heya,
Since the release of Dark Brotherhood we could enjoy Guild Bank services in the Anvil Outlaw Refuge. This was a great addition, I thought, to the area since it was unique and made sense in the grand scheme of things with the amassing bounties of that area. It made sense for it to be there since Anvil is full of outlaws and the local government is corrupt. Even the banker in the Refuge says that the locals have said they won't make trouble for her.
But unfortunately I visited today and I found that the guild bank services were removed, presumably with the Dragonbones DLC? Is that a bug? Or was it a bug that the guild bank services were available in the Outlaw Refuge there? In any case there is no mention of it anywhere in the Patch notes afaik.
Anyone else noticed it? Do you want it back? Do you think it was meant to be there and then removed? Or do you think it wasn't meant to be there and they finally removed it? ZOS people can we have it back? It was a nice addition.
To be fair, would you really want to store your valuable items in a sewer?
Best place to store them. Nobody robs a sewer.
The are among the safest places in Tamriel, can't even steal a sweet roll in them. Look at the banks and all the chests stolen on a daily basis in them. Which of these two inspire greater confidence of safety?
Hated that they changed this. It's been known openly for so long, mentioned in numerous guides. To have just changed it without comment or even a retort as to why on the forums. This just does not make sense.Edited by Grimm13 on March 11, 2018 5:59PM1 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I still wonder if the removal was a bug or the feature was a bug that remained in-game for 2 years
It’s the latter, @LMar.
Even the Moneylender in the Thieves Guild Den (Hew’s Bane) doesn’t have guild bank services.
But, as was mentioned above, the regular bank is very close by ... and avoiding the guards is pretty easy.0 -
LMar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »I still wonder if the removal was a bug or the feature was a bug that remained in-game for 2 years
It’s the latter, @LMar.
Even the Moneylender in the Thieves Guild Den (Hew’s Bane) doesn’t have guild bank services.
But, as was mentioned above, the regular bank is very close by ... and avoiding the guards is pretty easy.
Sure it's possible. But Hew's Bane has a legit government while Anvil is basically an outlaw city with a pirate queen governor
"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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LMar✭✭✭✭✭
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I regularly visit Coldharbor but its not really the same xD. Also, the Hollow City is a beacon of light in Coldharbor so not quite the dark side xD"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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WakeYourGhost✭✭✭✭✭I still wonder if the removal was a bug or the feature was a bug that remained in-game for 2 years
Dragon Knights Whip being Undogeable was apparently a Bug that remained in the game for... How long again? Hmm...
I wonder what sounds more likely?
A useful feature they removed silently with no explanation?
A useful "bug" they didn't bother to fix for a very long time only to suddenly fix it when no one was expecting it and everyone had grown accustom to it?0 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerHey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.6 -
WakeYourGhost✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
You guys need to work on your communication skills.. Rofl.
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LadyLethalla✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
... Which begs the question, why can't guild banks and one's guild stores be accessed from Outlaw Refuges? Why is the service offered in such "establishments" no better than Tythis Andromo?x-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
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Ethoir✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »I still wonder if the removal was a bug or the feature was a bug that remained in-game for 2 years
It’s the latter, @LMar.
Even the Moneylender in the Thieves Guild Den (Hew’s Bane) doesn’t have guild bank services.
But, as was mentioned above, the regular bank is very close by ... and avoiding the guards is pretty easy.
If you need to "avoid the guards" to get to a regular bank, chances are you'll be unable to use said bank.
The guards in the bank would interrupt you in their attempt to collect the bounty. No big deal if its a tiny bounty, but if you can't or don't want to pay, that's a problem. And if you are considered a KOS fugitive, the Bankers in the regular banks won't even talk to you.
But that's what the moneylenders in the Outlaw Refuges are for. Except that you have no way to access your guild banks through them. So if you have stuff you want to put in the guild bank(s), tough cookies. You'll have to either pay the bounty, use pardon edicts, or wait it out before you can talk to regular bankers again.Participant in the Sanguine's Tester beta group since November 2013.0 -
JasonSilverSpring✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »I still wonder if the removal was a bug or the feature was a bug that remained in-game for 2 years
It’s the latter, @LMar.
Even the Moneylender in the Thieves Guild Den (Hew’s Bane) doesn’t have guild bank services.
But, as was mentioned above, the regular bank is very close by ... and avoiding the guards is pretty easy.
If you need to "avoid the guards" to get to a regular bank, chances are you'll be unable to use said bank.
The guards in the bank would interrupt you in their attempt to collect the bounty. No big deal if its a tiny bounty, but if you can't or don't want to pay, that's a problem. And if you are considered a KOS fugitive, the Bankers in the regular banks won't even talk to you.
But that's what the moneylenders in the Outlaw Refuges are for. Except that you have no way to access your guild banks through them. So if you have stuff you want to put in the guild bank(s), tough cookies. You'll have to either pay the bounty, use pardon edicts, or wait it out before you can talk to regular bankers again.
Or you could go to Coldharbour.4 -
Kodrac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
Well that sucks. We can't have convenience getting in the way of grinding tedium now can we?1 -
LMar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh shucks. At least now we know for sure what's up. Thanks Gina for responding and clearing that up"If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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Tendrielle✭✭✭... Which begs the question, why can't guild banks and one's guild stores be accessed from Outlaw Refuges? Why is the service offered in such "establishments" no better than Tythis Andromo?
Yea, I think they should make the outlaw refugees somehow more attractive, to keep up with the loading times associated with them.0 -
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✭✭WakeYourGhost wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
You guys need to work on your communication skills.. Rofl.
Everyone is human, people miss things, did it break the game? No. People who make this game and work for ZoS are human not A.I or robots. Give people a break.@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP4 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I didn't even realize this existed. And now it's gone
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✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno since this a topic regarding NPCs in outlaw refuges, there was a fence removed from the Riften one so there is only one in there now when all others have 2. Any word on this?Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 501 -
Marto✭✭✭✭✭
✭WakeYourGhost wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
You guys need to work on your communication skills.. Rofl.
The patch notes have thousands upon thousands of items. Don't be surprised if one or two are missing or have a typo."According to the calculations of the sages of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, the batam guar is the cutest creature in all Tamriel"3 -
Guarlet✭✭✭✭✭WakeYourGhost wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
You guys need to work on your communication skills.. Rofl.
Fun fact: humans make mistakes occasionally. Much wow.AKA The Goblinator, PC/EU2 -
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Holy hot damn, they are human and make mistakes? Never would have guessed from the Atronach miscommunication, the MoL whiskers thing, or the several other mistakes.
I also never would have guessed that people on the internet take non-agressive non-offensive comments like a personal attack.
They’ve made a reasonable amount of mistakes recently, and they can be slow clearing them up.
My comment was hardly out of line.
People are well within their rights to hold others accountable for a recent chain of errors as long as they don’t get overtly hostile or step out of line.
Much wow.1 -
Zaldan✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
you really need to get someone to start proof reading the patch notes, this is happening with increasing frequency
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Cenom✭✭✭Great change. Didn't make sense at all having this service in a Outlaw refuge.
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
you really need to get someone to start proof reading the patch notes, this is happening with increasing frequency
We do the best we can, but agree that there have been an increased number of missing items lately. We're discussing how we can better improve the process.5 -
ol_BANK_lo✭✭✭✭✭WakeYourGhost wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
You guys need to work on your communication skills.. Rofl.
They miss one thing in the patch notes, and you criticize them? Are you perfect? And "rofl"? How old are you?0 -
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You must be new here, or wear pink glasses or be flat out blind with amnesia.BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »They miss one thing in the patch notes, and you criticize them? Are you perfect? And "rofl"? How old are you?2 -
Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
you really need to get someone to start proof reading the patch notes, this is happening with increasing frequency
We do the best we can, but agree that there have been an increased number of missing items lately. We're discussing how we can better improve the process.
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WakeYourGhost✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just wanted to let you know this change was done on purpose, but we inadvertently missed the patch note for it. Apologies for the confusion it caused! The Anvil Outlaw Refuge will now operate the same as all other Outlaw Refuges.
you really need to get someone to start proof reading the patch notes, this is happening with increasing frequency
We do the best we can, but agree that there have been an increased number of missing items lately. We're discussing how we can better improve the process.
I would personally suggest circulating the patch notes around as a quick memo. If everyone took around three minutes to look over the sections they are directly involved in and double check wording and make sure things they worked on are correct, it might help?
It could at least help clear up issues that are vague and reduce the chances of missing details.0
