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Keep raising tickets, ZOS keep giving bad service - disconnection error, zos say "speak to ISP"

WhoSlappedThePie
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The error: "Unable to connect. Make sure you have a valid connection".

Raised multiple tickets with ZOS and they have just said "speak to ISP" or "speak to PS4" - my ISP say this is not a problem there - I've checked at the time I disconnect and I still have working internet, i'm on a audio chat etc...

I check with PS4 and they ask if "is this a problem with just this one game or are others affected?" to which I reply, no, it's just ESO.... "the problem is with ESO".

Fix it zos!! Has anybody noticed this problem? Anybody raised a ticket and had terrible server/responses back?

This is not coool zos, wasting my time with this game.
"It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop."

Current Toons (Max CP):
Magsorc Breton
Magblade Darkelf
Stam DK Redguard
Healer Templar High Elf
Tank DK Argonian
Stamblade Redguard

Completed: vHoF | vMoL | vSO | vSO HM | vAA | vAA HM | vHR | vHR HM | vMA | vDSA
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.
  • Apache_Kid
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    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    So because English doesn't seem to be their main language they must have a sub-optimal connection? Not cool.

    They said they contacted their ISP who said there should not be any issues if you read the post.
    Edited by Apache_Kid on March 8, 2018 2:53PM
  • WhoSlappedThePie
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    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    Nah because it doesn't happen all the time. That is a terrible response and one you probably shouldn't post if you don't have a clue what you're talking about?

    - If I am "far away/sub optimal" in terms of connection then why does it not happen all the time? It happens at specific points, i.e. at the start of entering a group dungeon, at the end of a dungeon, solo running around killing mobs, in a trial.

    It can happen once every 30 minutes or it can sometimes not happen for an hour. It's not my connection bro. It is somethign with the game. If it was my connection I would notice more disconnects? All the time?

    Heres one to throw you off - if I go into cyrodiil it NEVER happens? For hours at a time? Explain that.
    "It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop."

    Current Toons (Max CP):
    Magsorc Breton
    Magblade Darkelf
    Stam DK Redguard
    Healer Templar High Elf
    Tank DK Argonian
    Stamblade Redguard

    Completed: vHoF | vMoL | vSO | vSO HM | vAA | vAA HM | vHR | vHR HM | vMA | vDSA
  • KiraTsukasa
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    Well, if you keep creating tickets, they all go back to the bottom of the pile, so you're not likely to get sufficient help if you keep doing that.
  • WhoSlappedThePie
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    So because English doesn't seem to be their main language they must have a sub-optimal connection? Not cool.

    They said they contacted their ISP who said there should not be any issues if you read the post.

    I am from England though. Haha..
    "It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop."

    Current Toons (Max CP):
    Magsorc Breton
    Magblade Darkelf
    Stam DK Redguard
    Healer Templar High Elf
    Tank DK Argonian
    Stamblade Redguard

    Completed: vHoF | vMoL | vSO | vSO HM | vAA | vAA HM | vHR | vHR HM | vMA | vDSA
  • Apache_Kid
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    So because English doesn't seem to be their main language they must have a sub-optimal connection? Not cool.

    They said they contacted their ISP who said there should not be any issues if you read the post.

    I am from England though. Haha..

    My apologies. The wording was just weird for me. Either way you said in OP that you contacted your ISP already.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    So because English doesn't seem to be their main language they must have a sub-optimal connection? Not cool.

    They said they contacted their ISP who said there should not be any issues if you read the post.

    I work with vendors from around the world. It’s not a commonly used phrase.

    This led me to believe the person would possibly be a great distance from the mega servers.

    Calm your outrage. No malice intended.
  • Apache_Kid
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    So because English doesn't seem to be their main language they must have a sub-optimal connection? Not cool.

    They said they contacted their ISP who said there should not be any issues if you read the post.

    I work with vendors from around the world. It’s not a commonly used phrase.

    This led me to believe the person would possibly be a great distance from the mega servers.

    Calm your outrage. No malice intended.

    I'm not outraged just didn't think it was cool. "not cool" is different from outrage and malice.

    Either way they are from England so doesn't seem like they are trying to connect from Turkmenistan or anything.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Every developer will tell you this. I didn't play Overwatch for almost a year after getting it at launch because Blizzard told me and hundreds of other users on the forums that we needed to speak to our ISPs to resolve lag issues (some ISPs didn't communicate nicely with Blizzard servers at the time and Blizzard couldn't be *** to make the changes on their end).
  • VaranisArano
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    Honestly, you might get better results with ZOS if you keep responding to and escalating your original ticket. If I need help from ZOS, I usually just keep restating "this is my problem - these are the solutions you've suggested and the results - I still have this problem and look forward to you fixing it" again and again as they start forwarding me to people who can help.
  • Xundiin
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    The error: "Unable to connect. Make sure you have a valid connection".

    Raised multiple tickets with ZOS and they have just said "speak to ISP" or "speak to PS4" - my ISP say this is not a problem there - I've checked at the time I disconnect and I still have working internet, i'm on a audio chat etc...

    I check with PS4 and they ask if "is this a problem with just this one game or are others affected?" to which I reply, no, it's just ESO.... "the problem is with ESO".

    Fix it zos!! Has anybody noticed this problem? Anybody raised a ticket and had terrible server/responses back?

    This is not coool zos, wasting my time with this game.

    Did you do a trace route? Unless you do that it would be hard to say it was theirs or yours. YOu could have perfect connection to your ISP and they could have perfect connection with their ISP, but a jumping point is down causing you to lose connection. Had this issue with STO.
    #SavePlayer1
  • rumple9
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    Nothing to do with ISP the problem is on their end since dragonbones patch. Game is hardly playable anymore
  • Jake1576
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    Made this post yesterday about the same thing happening to me while I'm in pvp https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/399672/what-great-pvp-servers-ps4-na-has-not#latest
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    This game has some very big problems with certain ISP's. Sometimes just on a hardware level. But ZOS basicly tries to stick their fingers in their ears and pretend there isn't a problem.
  • Inarre
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    Try ping plotter. They have a free trial, I ran that bad boy for a full month and eventually discovered where the issue was with my own connection to the game.

    If it does turn out to be on zos end you can send them proof.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    Nah because it doesn't happen all the time. That is a terrible response and one you probably shouldn't post if you don't have a clue what you're talking about?

    - If I am "far away/sub optimal" in terms of connection then why does it not happen all the time? It happens at specific points, i.e. at the start of entering a group dungeon, at the end of a dungeon, solo running around killing mobs, in a trial.

    It can happen once every 30 minutes or it can sometimes not happen for an hour. It's not my connection bro. It is somethign with the game. If it was my connection I would notice more disconnects? All the time?

    Heres one to throw you off - if I go into cyrodiil it NEVER happens? For hours at a time? Explain that.

    I’m not certain on your unique problem.

    I merely offered a hypothesis. Nothing ill willed about it.

    Unfortunately, based on your response, I hope it continues.
  • WhoSlappedThePie
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    Nope. Tickets raised?

    I’m guessing your connecting to the mega servers from far away/sub optimal connection.

    Nah because it doesn't happen all the time. That is a terrible response and one you probably shouldn't post if you don't have a clue what you're talking about?

    - If I am "far away/sub optimal" in terms of connection then why does it not happen all the time? It happens at specific points, i.e. at the start of entering a group dungeon, at the end of a dungeon, solo running around killing mobs, in a trial.

    It can happen once every 30 minutes or it can sometimes not happen for an hour. It's not my connection bro. It is somethign with the game. If it was my connection I would notice more disconnects? All the time?

    Heres one to throw you off - if I go into cyrodiil it NEVER happens? For hours at a time? Explain that.

    I’m not certain on your unique problem.

    I merely offered a hypothesis. Nothing ill willed about it.

    Unfortunately, based on your response, I hope it continues.

    It will continue, you don't need to waste your hope bro ;)
    "It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop."

    Current Toons (Max CP):
    Magsorc Breton
    Magblade Darkelf
    Stam DK Redguard
    Healer Templar High Elf
    Tank DK Argonian
    Stamblade Redguard

    Completed: vHoF | vMoL | vSO | vSO HM | vAA | vAA HM | vHR | vHR HM | vMA | vDSA
  • ssorgatem
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    Speak to ISP
  • ssorgatem
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    But seriously, what you describe looks like an issue with your connection rather than the game.

    Maybe it's your computer?

    Check your OS cofiguration, your network hardware, your router...
    are you playing wired or wireless?

    If wireless, try wired.
  • WhoSlappedThePie
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    ssorgatem wrote: »
    But seriously, what you describe looks like an issue with your connection rather than the game.

    Maybe it's your computer?

    Check your OS cofiguration, your network hardware, your router...
    are you playing wired or wireless?

    If wireless, try wired.

    How can it be? I run any other game with 0 issues. I'm on PS4.

    If I am in cyrodiil then it won't disconnect for hours, if at all.

    If i'm in dungeons etc.. it disconnects when I enter, when I leave. How can this be my PS4?

    I am wired connection.

    It can't be my ps4 as other users are experiencing the same thing, it doesn't happen with other games, with other applications, if I get "unable to connect. Make sure you have valid internet connection" disconnection error message I can ALSO use internet browser, run a speedtest / tracert, use my phone internet, speak to people via PS4 audio chat. How is that my computer and not ESO? Everything points toward an issue with ZOS / ESO.
    "It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop."

    Current Toons (Max CP):
    Magsorc Breton
    Magblade Darkelf
    Stam DK Redguard
    Healer Templar High Elf
    Tank DK Argonian
    Stamblade Redguard

    Completed: vHoF | vMoL | vSO | vSO HM | vAA | vAA HM | vHR | vHR HM | vMA | vDSA
  • Jake1576
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    ssorgatem wrote: »
    Speak to ISP

    good one! I've just spoken to them and they said you're an idiot

    lmao thanks for the laugh
  • KiraTsukasa
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    Well, if you keep creating tickets, they all go back to the bottom of the pile, so you're not likely to get sufficient help if you keep doing that.

    Why are you still commenting if you have no knowledge of what happens?

    I raise a ticket > they claim to "fix" it by telling me to go to ISP / PS4 support > then it says "please raise a new ticket if you notice this issue again." > I raise a new ticket > same process > technical team cannot help > ticket gets "resolved" when it is not > "Please raise a ticket if you need further assistance."

    Point is, they force you to keep creating new tickets to which they give you the same standard response.

    But seriously, why are you responding just to increase your post count? You literally sound like you have no idea how this works. It doesn't go to the bottom of the pile when they have a system in place to specifically tell you raise a new ticket should the issue re-occur. Stop clogging up my post with useless responses.

    Wow. You come on here asking for help and someone gives you an answer you don't want to hear and you act like a jackass.

    You know what, you want to act like a little baby like this, I hope ZOS never resolves your issue.

    What are you talking about? How have I not wanted to hear it? I typed a response back to the guy. He said something that is incorrect..?

    No, what you want is for everyone to jump to your defense with their torches and pitchforks raised against ZOS.

    What you're doing is wrong. Whenever you submit a ticket, you're getting the automated message. If you report a server issue while the ESO servers are registered as up, they'll automatically send you a message to contact your ISP. What you need to do then is respond to the same ticket. If you create another one, you get the automated message again and all your tickets go to the bottom of the pile. Trust me, I've been through this. This is the answer to your problem, whether you like it or not.

    And if I was just trying to get my post count up, I would have done that a long time ago since I've had this account for almost three years, and there are much better threads than yours that I can post garbage in anyway.
  • phileunderx2
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    It makes one wonder. I have very few problems with my pc connection but my ps4 connection is rife with problems. Both are sharing the same Internet both are connected by hardwire. Do the math.
  • Apache_Kid
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    It makes one wonder. I have very few problems with my pc connection but my ps4 connection is rife with problems. Both are sharing the same Internet both are connected by hardwire. Do the math.

    The console ports for this game leave some things to be desired for sure.
  • AdamSC
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    I am from England though. Haha..

    You should learn to speak American...

    But seriously, in your next ticket include a reference to all your previous ticket numbers. You also should include responses from your ISP and ps4.

    If they can't help, ask them to elevate the ticket.

  • DMuehlhausen
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    rumple9 wrote: »
    Nothing to do with ISP the problem is on their end since dragonbones patch. Game is hardly playable anymore

    Huh funny I've not really had any issues since the patch. So not sure what you mean by hardly unplayable.
  • Ley
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    I work for a software company, we get support tickets every day with customers complaining about latency/connectivity issues. 99.9% of these issues are on the customer's end. If we are having any issues with our servers, we are the first ones to know. This will be followed by 1000 calls all hitting our support phones and email at the same time.

    Not saying we don't try to help people with connectivity issues that are happening on their end but there's only so much we can do. Mainly we just prove that the issue is not on our end and point them in the right direction for resolving their issue.

    I say this because if ZOS were experiencing an issue on their end that was preventing people from connecting to their severs, there would probably be more than just you complaining about it and I'd expect their response to be different.

    If it's not on their end, it's likely either a firewall, proxy, VPN, router, or ISP issue.

    First things I'd check are:
    1. When did this start happening?
    2. Did anything change or update around that time?

    First rule of connectivity troubleshooting. Always blame someone else!
    Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade
  • WhoSlappedThePie
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    Ley wrote: »
    I work for a software company, we get support tickets every day with customers complaining about latency/connectivity issues. 99.9% of these issues are on the customer's end. If we are having any issues with our servers, we are the first ones to know. This will be followed by 1000 calls all hitting our support phones and email at the same time.

    Not saying we don't try to help people with connectivity issues that are happening on their end but there's only so much we can do. Mainly we just prove that the issue is not on our end and point them in the right direction for resolving their issue.

    I say this because if ZOS were experiencing an issue on their end that was preventing people from connecting to their severs, there would probably be more than just you complaining about it and I'd expect their response to be different.

    If it's not on their end, it's likely either a firewall, proxy, VPN, router, or ISP issue.

    First things I'd check are:
    1. When did this start happening?
    2. Did anything change or update around that time?

    First rule of connectivity troubleshooting. Always blame someone else!

    Please listen to what I'm saying:

    It can not be an issue on my ISP:

    At the time I receive a "Unable to connect. Make sure you have a valid connection" error message I am in a PS chat, talking with other people through the internet. I am on my laptop, browsing the web. I am on my phone, browsing the web. Therefore, my internet has a connection. It only disconnects at specific times; in a dungeon, at the end of a dungeon, start of trial/ end of trial. Key point: If I am in cyrodiil it doesn't happen at all - How can that be my ISP?

    It can not be my PS4:

    This only happens with ESO. If i play other online games, I never receive this error, if I am on the internet browser or netflix for example, this never loses connection.

    - This started happening in Clockwork City
    - Nothing changed on my end or updated on my end at that time. It was working perfectly before then and now I receive this error.

    » I have deleted save files
    » I have changed my IP addresses (8.8.8.8 / 8.8.8.4)
    » I have uninstalled / reinstalled
    » I have set port forwarding through my router

    Thanks for the response but I work in a software company too and I am used to troubleshooting and I have looked into this fully and tried to eliminate areas that could be an issue by logic above.
    "It does not matter how slowly you go so long as you do not stop."

    Current Toons (Max CP):
    Magsorc Breton
    Magblade Darkelf
    Stam DK Redguard
    Healer Templar High Elf
    Tank DK Argonian
    Stamblade Redguard

    Completed: vHoF | vMoL | vSO | vSO HM | vAA | vAA HM | vHR | vHR HM | vMA | vDSA
  • Pops_ND_Irish
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    Hehe always ZoS fault. Provider may be throttling or stay in Cyrodil
    Edited by Pops_ND_Irish on March 8, 2018 4:55PM
  • Apache_Kid
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    MoTeets wrote: »
    Hehe always ZoS fault. Provider may be throttling or stay in Cyrodil

    So their provider is throttling but ESO is the only game they are having issues with? Doesn't make sense to me....
    Edited by Apache_Kid on March 8, 2018 4:58PM
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