I am the type of player who plays games on easy mode. I don't play for the challenge or competition, but the story, the crafting, the collecting, the overall journey. I have 400 something CP and been playing since just after launch, I stopped putting points into CP around the 250-300 mark, I also play with only one weapon slotted and play in first person significantly handicapping my play deliberately, and play 2H to boot simply because its what I enjoy and only what I need for my enjoyment of the game. I do not group or do vet content, I think my main does a paltry 5K DPS and is somewhat of a hybrid tough to kill type character, basically I am a pretty crappy player and I am okay with that as I enjoy myself and its my simple escape every once in a while. I could learn to play better absolutely and did for a while but its just not necessary and actually removed some enjoyment as I focused more on damage and rotations instead of the experience.

Overland I have not died in I cant remember how long (long time), I have completed main, alliance, silver, gold and most DLC quest lines, I can solo any dolmen or public dungeon and solo most group dungeons in the first 2 zones of the alliance and world bosses without much problem. While I do not mind the easy difficulty as its not what I play the game for, I can safely say I think if a player with my crappy play style can do these things the game is probably a bit too easy for those who enjoy a more challenging experience.

And in case anyone is wondering I do not group with other players as I know I have deliberately handicapped myself and would not impose that on others.

I'd actually say it leans on the to easy side, but I rather like that to be honest. There are some challenges at high cp still, and it keeps the game perfect for what I try to get out of it. Simply relaxing and having fun after busy days.

It's fine and dandy.

Overland gets easy as you reach the upper CP echelons, but that's to be expected. DLC hard mode vet trials continue to be challenging content for just about everyone except those people who run it day in and day out to achieve the top leaderboard positions.

I believe that the ease or difficulty of overland might be better measured by brand new players, in other words.. those who have no CP, random gear equipped, and have not yet learned to play.

It's easy for me, even on a new character with no CP assigned, but I have been playing for 3 years. I remember being new in pre-one-tamriel and dying plenty of times. I cannot say, at this time, how it is for a new player.

Vhozek wrote: »

OP here.
I've been playing the game for about 1 year or not even 6 months if you count the many months I didn't play it after day 1 of buying it and after 2-3 months of playing it.
Anyways, I don't have any golden sets or any specific build or whatever you guys call it. I just wear whatever gives me green numbers on the areas I know I want. I'm able to do trials and vet dungeons with no problem, and I have yet to try vet trials because I feel they're just the same thing as what vet dungeons are to normal dungeons.

The only well developed knowledge I have about the game are the combat cues and normal dungeon boss mechanics - not vet dungeon boss mechanics because after doing about 2 or 3, I figured out they're just gonna have random 1-hit kill moves so I haven't even finished all vet dungeons.

I figured out that once you learn combat cues, you're pretty much done with overworld content. You have lived it all and don't even wanna bother. At least that's how I feel and it makes this game feel absolutely DEAD.

I'm assuming you know what the term "carried" means? Go solo a vet dungeon without dying in that same crappy gear and upload the vid.

I do admit that the game leans a bit towards being too easy, in that if you play it the way it's probably intended you're rarely going to have trouble. But I like that with a bit of creativity you can customise the difficulty.

I just recently got my first proper equipment set for my main character - all purple rarity, all from the same 2 item sets (5 pieces from one, the rest from another) and all with matching glyphs to suit her build. The difference it made compared to just using whatever drops were the right armour weight and had the highest level/armour rating was huge. I still don't have any CP but I'm already considering limiting how many points I actually use or designating one character to go without because I think it will make things too easy for me.

I'd strongly encourage those who think the game is always too easy to try levelling a character naturally - not rushing through grinding spots with every XP boost you can lay your hands on - completing each map as you come to it - including world bosses, delves and public dungeons, and using only dropped equipment and no CP (at least until they get to level 50). Not because I think it can't be done or even because I think it would be some kind of impressive challenge but because I think it would increase the difficulty enough that it would be enjoyable again, and get back that feeling of things being challenging people say they had when they were new. (And if that's not enough you could always do things like go straight to the DLC zones - which even with scaling are harder - on a brand new character.)

Or scale it up even further - restrict the number of armour pieces you're allowed to wear, or use a build you know for a fact is bad (like 50/50 magicka and stamina) but which you enjoy for the novelty value.

Oh *** I wanna change my vote. I didn't read "overworld only".

That *** is way too easy. *** easy mobs, *** easy bosses, and then the occasional boss that's nigh impossible to solo just because of some dumb mechanic- And even those are usually easy besides that.

I had a guildmate tell me "DLC world bosses are a 4 man at least..." when I was asking for help in a daily. Then some random level 30 guy walked up and just having him there was enough help for us to complete it.

We need more dynamic difficulty for overworld. Some of it should be easy, some of the wilder areas should actually be dangerous places to go.

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Have all the people saying it's too easy completed vAS +2?

Yeah all overland content is incredibly easy and so are the dungeons and even most vet dungeons. The problem is that content like vHoF and vAS +2 are so incredibly difficult that they are out of reach of many players. Not only that, but some of the achievements associated with the dungeons and trials are so incredibly difficult that only a handful of people have even completed them.

I have still yet to see at tick-tock-tormenter title on Xbox. I'm sure the streamers and youtubers who have all day to play and practice the game are very happy with all of these mega-difficult achievements but I just like how many of them feel unattainable. I consider myself a very good player but not top tier by any means as I still have yet to clear some of the content. It just feels like at a certain point with my Xbox controller I can't make my rotation go any faster. I've maximized my DPS within the current mechanics of the game and my ability yet I can't hit 40k on a magicka character or 50k on a stamina character like some others. Feels as if there is a problem here for me. Feels like i've stopped progressing.

The problem is, theres no middle grounds.
When 99% of game is completely braindead easy, there's not many people who are prepared for more difficult content or even interested in it. Sure, many people would like to have titles and skins, but many of them give up after a few evenings of wipes, because if feels hopeless after solo/normal or even vanilla vet content.
The game desperately needs a difficulty curve, they keep releasing vet dlc content, but many of the players are simply not prepared for it after light attacking their way to the win in normal content.
If there would be actual difficulty progression, we would see more endgame guilds and more people running trials etc.

Vhozek wrote: »

Sevn wrote: »

Vhozek wrote: »

OP here.
I've been playing the game for about 1 year or not even 6 months if you count the many months I didn't play it after day 1 of buying it and after 2-3 months of playing it.
Anyways, I don't have any golden sets or any specific build or whatever you guys call it. I just wear whatever gives me green numbers on the areas I know I want. I'm able to do trials and vet dungeons with no problem, and I have yet to try vet trials because I feel they're just the same thing as what vet dungeons are to normal dungeons.

The only well developed knowledge I have about the game are the combat cues and normal dungeon boss mechanics - not vet dungeon boss mechanics because after doing about 2 or 3, I figured out they're just gonna have random 1-hit kill moves so I haven't even finished all vet dungeons.

I figured out that once you learn combat cues, you're pretty much done with overworld content. You have lived it all and don't even wanna bother. At least that's how I feel and it makes this game feel absolutely DEAD.

I'm assuming you know what the term "carried" means? Go solo a vet dungeon without dying in that same crappy gear and upload the vid.

Carried? I play tanks. I'm intentionally taking damage in both dungeons and trials. I even have my own heals through the use of a healing staff in secondary or 1 heal ability in my bar if I'm playing Templar.

So soloing a vet dungeon without dying should be easy peasy for you, looking forward to that vid!

It is fine. My CP720+ healer finds plenty of young adventurers in public dungeons, dolmens and world bosses that went out searching for adventure. And found it. And needed healing. Lol. Seriously, as a healer she encounters plenty of players in 'easy overland content' that she pulls back from the brink of death.

Somewhat similar with my tank, only with a different twist. He's encountered plenty of small groups of young players that are running about frantically and about to wipe on a WB - until he grabs the boss by the nose, locks it down and draws its full ire. The different twist is that as a main tank, his impressive durability is inversely proportional to his negligible dps. Yet the game allow him to (slowly) do all solo/quest things a normal character wants to do in full tank gear. Being a tank has plenty of downside and hitting each little foe multiple times to kill them one a time is one of those downsides. Were the solo content harder, it would simply be tedious and discourage him from being a tank. Main tanks are already rare enough. . . .

ArchMikem wrote: »

I always cheat in god mode in my singleplayer games. I prefer easy so i can focus more on the storytelling.

And I'll clarify that overland content in ESO is indeed a facerole level of easy.....to a CP capped player. That's the thing. If you're downing some veiled heritance with a few swings while in the midst of your morning jog, then you probably have several hundred CP on you. While at the same time, a brand new player on their level 20 is going to spend a couple minutes fighting a single trash mob.

Here's the thing that baffles me about threads like this, what's the goal?

If you good folks think for a second that Zos is going to waste any time or resources to appease a minority of players who will destroy any challenging content within weeks of release you are, er, extremely optimistic. It's just impossible to churn out content faster than it can be consumed. What's in it for Zos? This is a business, where is their return for doing this? Are you willing to pay top dollar for it? Nope, didn't think so.

Best case scenario is they will increase enemy health and damage output, which is just terrible and artificial and also something players can already do themselves by simply using less powerful gear. I know I know, it will still be easy, yada yada yada.

The most likely scenario is they will take the even easier path and nerf the players, again.

Then of course these good folks want bigger and better rewards, despite them claiming it's about the challenge. Being part of the elite crowd that can crush difficult content should be the reward, right?

Tl:dr keep at it and all you'll get us is more nerfs to us, ALL of us and I'm sick of shelving my toons until they are adjusted back accordingly. Templars haven't been right for a long time damn it.