Zaan is ridiculous (Console PVP player POV)

  • ol_BANK_lo
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    Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.

    On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    You lost me after L2P. Another nerf post. Let's go over this for the millionth time. Yes, it's strong. It's single target. They want it to do more dps to a single target than Grothdarr, LLambris, etc. That's the point. You can get 2k dps to every enemy in Grothdarr or LLambris, but 3k+ to a single target. It's a tradeoff. That...is...the...point. I have watched plenty of vids of Zaan being warded/healing through. It's not broken. You post a video of the squishiest possible class - a glass cannon Stamblade...and possibly not even a good one. Stop posting about nerfing Zaan.

    Quite frankly, I'm glad there may be another way to burst Stamblades down. There are a million of them running around that cloak and run every time their gank doesn't work.
    Edited by ol_BANK_lo on February 28, 2018 1:19PM
  • Ocelot9x
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    ESO is such a good game (with a nice and skill centered PvP) but ruined by zos politic of monetizing.
    Need to sell morrowind? Op warden for everyone (and yes,I played one to rank 25 PvP soloing so I know what I'm saying)
    Need to sell dragon bones? Op proc set

    And it's laughable how people still defend those dumb sets. L2p lads,l2p
  • Malamar1229
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    @Minalan Welcome to Marketing...stuff OP=people buy DLC...after 3-6 months they nerf it to the ground cuz we have new DLCs that follow the same pattern =.=

    On the bright side it's not exactly an easily obtainable helm. Personally I have only experienced one player using it on Pc...a stamblade. That's what you should really fear.
  • JobooAGS
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    Nope, that nb needed to l2p
  • Lynx7386
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    Zaan only does a little over 2k dps.

    It has a 10 meter range. Dodge roll and stop whining.
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  • generalmyrick
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    Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.

    On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    i am def L2P.

    but you not adjusting sounds like you need to l2p.

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  • W0lf_z13
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    if not said already... there are a few things that cancel out the zaan beam that I have personally seen from my testings with zaan.... mist form ... cloak.... invisibility pots ... purge .... and another from what I have been told defensive stance ( although i haven't seen this one yet )
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  • Girl_Number8
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    It is a set designed against 1vXers.. Play with friends or kill the user before they kill you. Stop whining because ZOS wants the game to be easier and be more casual friendly. I don't see anything wrong with it. It is only players who think that there is something of a hidden reward for their skill who have a problem with it.

    With the removal of AOE caps small group PVP is now better than ever. I really wish the 1vXers would disappear from the game and stop making everything not fun.


    A game should never cater to a casual player base. That game would get boring real quick. Competition is key for the longevity of the game and casuals shouldn't care whether something is nerfed or not.

    They bought the game so they have every right to care about what gets nerfed. There is no competition, the balance is non existent and the lag unfixed. PvP has been casual since MW anyway~

    People playing the game is the longevity not PvP as much as I luv it. That's why they get new content and we in PvP just get nerfs.
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Zaan only does a little over 2k dps.

    It has a 10 meter range. Dodge roll and stop whining.

    What if... when you dodge roll.. the player with Zaan like uses a gap closer or like walks in the same direction as your dodge roll. Bonus points if you can guess what happens next.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    Don't worry about the grammar. Making it look professional would entail uploading a video of a player who wasn't recklessly spamming Inacap and Surprise Attack when a simple cloak would have removed the tether and made the Monster set on the other player worthless for 18 seconds.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
  • Smmokkee
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    It is a set designed against 1vXers.. Play with friends or kill the user before they kill you. Stop whining because ZOS wants the game to be easier and be more casual friendly. I don't see anything wrong with it. It is only players who think that there is something of a hidden reward for their skill who have a problem with it.

    With the removal of AOE caps small group PVP is now better than ever. I really wish the 1vXers would disappear from the game and stop making everything not fun.

    A set designed agaisnt 1vXers.. lololololool like they needed more disadvantages.. that doesnt even make sense.
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    I don't see the problem. If Zaan is too strong now there will be builds countering it. More will run those builds and Zaan will become mediocre after some time.

    They could increase the duration but keep the damage for a "quick" fix but I don't know if that's a solution.

    Builds countering it? Yes someday all you noobs will get your wish and everyone will be in cyrodiil with 30k hp and heavy armor. And we'll all light attack each other and run in circles for fun.
  • MaxwellC
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    Interesting if Zann is indeed uninterruptible then that needs to change especially since that is a Proc set and not a skill.
    I haven't faced Zann thus far and my only problems with Cyrodiil as of late is the weird resource drain and perma-block wonders who can have defensive play while giving out normal damage/heals i.e b.s.
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  • burglar
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    Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition.

    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    Man... MagBlades have been nerfed every patch since morrowind, I think? Its painful to see someone already complaining about something that supports magblade. Honestly, anything can be exploited initially, but in a few weeks there will be many counters to it, and it won't function as well.
    Ocelot9x wrote: »
    ESO is such a good game (with a nice and skill centered PvP) but ruined by zos politic of monetizing.
    Need to sell morrowind? Op warden for everyone (and yes,I played one to rank 25 PvP soloing so I know what I'm saying)
    Need to sell dragon bones? Op proc set

    And it's laughable how people still defend those dumb sets. L2p lads,l2p

    its really not fair to draw comparisons between a chapter and a DLC, as any monthly subscription circumvents the need to purchase said DLC, which is not the case with morrowind. Also, given the growth of the gaming industry (bigger than movie industry) and with investors expecting the same kind of returns that mobile games get, it's no wonder we see some of the same business models that are used in mobile games being used in console/PC games, e.g. crown store. But, they aren't creating broken sets to sell DLC. That's nonsense.
    Edited by burglar on February 28, 2018 3:31PM
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  • Koensol
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    I have to say it is quite funny to see that people are honestly defending this cheese. It is 1 tamriel all over again. If you need armor to kill people for you, who is the one that needs to l2p?
    Edited by Koensol on February 28, 2018 3:23PM
  • Bosov
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    Yesterday i was fighting in a Chalman keep tower, i had killed 3 EP until a mag dk entered MY tower. The mag dk tickled me with 2k whips but my dizzy swing didnt do much to him either since he was permablock/full resist. All of a sudden i died and had a 18k Zaan deathrecap. The beam lagged out for me or so because i didnt see it (really high ping because EP zerg tried taking Chalman and DC zerg tried protecting it.. also primetime on PC EU so the ballgroup zergs where doing there thing somewhere on the map) but a monster set doing that much damage is kinda insane.

    Also i highly agree with the Skoria statement.. make it like the Nerienth crystal but with a meteor falling from the sky. Its just stupid that tankplars/tank magicka DK's can get kills by equipping these damage monster sets. If you build to be a tank and your stats/abilities reflect that you are a tank you shouldnt be able to kill people because you have 5k burst damage from a monster set. Make monster sets scale of stats so only DPS can make full use out of damage monster sets.
    Edited by Bosov on February 28, 2018 3:24PM
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  • Peekachu99
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    With 40k resistance.. really?! A typical tank doesn't even get that high. What super spinach are you popping on your toon? Anyways, I doubt that Zaan would be hitting that high on a toon with 40k resistance.

    Dedicated PvP tanks often go over cap since you have to factor in the amount of penetration your opponent has.
  • pieratsos
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.

    On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.



    Umm, if you see that nice big flame link, you need to get away. It's basically a build in Jesus beam. Since he stood next to you the WHOLE fight, he deserved to die.

    If you dont run away from my 2 piece set you deserve to die.

    #ESO2018 logic
  • Koolio
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    I had a friend test this set out on me last night in a duel. I just stood there to see what it was like.
    Death Recap was

    1300 Dual wield light attack
    23k Zaan

    Now I haven’t seen in cyrodiil so practicality might be terrible. But he killed me with 1 light attack. Just 1.
  • PaixRomanus
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    Zaan is fine. We should just leave it alone - these threads don't enact positive change in the game, these kind of threads cause nerfs. Sure Zaan is pretty overpowered, but so are asylum staves, so is incap, so reverse slice, and wrecking blow but people know how to counter these things - complaining is only going to cause nerfs, the same nerfs that people cry about constantly and wonder why ZoS is nerfing everything - just read the forums it is pretty clear why ZoS makes the nerfs they do, because of the complaining, constantly, that occurs in these forums. Remember viper? Nerfed because people complained. Literally, the list is endless of the nerfs received in this game because of posts like this. Just play the game and chill don't need to whine and complain about every little change to the game.
  • Maulkin
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    @Minalan Welcome to Marketing...stuff OP=people buy DLC...after 3-6 months they nerf it to the ground cuz we have new DLCs that follow the same pattern =.=

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  • Datthaw
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    Anyone who thinks zaan is op is a potato.
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    Datthaw wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks zaan is op is a potato.

    no u
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  • Abysswarrior45
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    wtf is that video?! after he CC'ed you he runs straight towards and not the other way around! ofc zaan will kill him that way, he didnt even attempt to run away from it, he has all the chance!!

    You're missing the point of the video. The templar ONLY hit him with entropy and vamps bane and thats it and Zaan did the rest. NO set should be able to kill a player on its own good or bad. A small boost to burst, fine, but no a single proc from a set should not deal that much damage.
    Surak73 wrote: »
    Sure the night blade played bad but that monster set still took him from 70% to 0%.

    Oh well, even a meteor, a dawnbreaker or a dk jump could take you from 70% to 0% in a moment, if you don't deal properly with them. The problem in this video is only that the guy doesn't have any idea about what to do.

    BUT THOSE ARE ULTS NOT SET PIECES!!! Those cost resources/ult to use.

    Datthaw wrote: »
    Whine whine cry cry whine cry whine cry cry cry


    ^ what this thread sounds like

    You sound like someone who needs a set to crutch on to get anything done.

    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    With 40k resistance.. really?! A typical tank doesn't even get that high. What super spinach are you popping on your toon? Anyways, I doubt that Zaan would be hitting that high on a toon with 40k resistance.

    On PS4 NA there is a lot of penetration in peoples builds and my build has 4600 dmg, 40k resist, 2200 crit resist, 24k hp, 38k stam, 40% crit, 2700 recovery.
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    @Abysswarrior45

    Joe king just hit dust with a 30k Zaan proc. Lol.
  • Abysswarrior45
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    Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.

    On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    You lost me after L2P. Another nerf post. Let's go over this for the millionth time. Yes, it's strong. It's single target. They want it to do more dps to a single target than Grothdarr, LLambris, etc. That's the point. You can get 2k dps to every enemy in Grothdarr or LLambris, but 3k+ to a single target. It's a tradeoff. That...is...the...point. I have watched plenty of vids of Zaan being warded/healing through. It's not broken. You post a video of the squishiest possible class - a glass cannon Stamblade...and possibly not even a good one. Stop posting about nerfing Zaan.

    Quite frankly, I'm glad there may be another way to burst Stamblades down. There are a million of them running around that cloak and run every time their gank doesn't work.

    Again, you missed the point of the video. That Templar killed the stamblade with just entropy and vamps bane with a proc set. NO proc set should give that much damage. This is my first ever nerf thread and its justified. Learn to burst down stambaldes without a set to do it for you. Im doing it on a medium dizzy swing build in a 1vX.
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Zaan only does a little over 2k dps.

    It has a 10 meter range. Dodge roll and stop whining.

    Read... if your opponent continues to advance while you dodge roll and run you can't escape it.
    It is a set designed against 1vXers.. Play with friends or kill the user before they kill you. Stop whining because ZOS wants the game to be easier and be more casual friendly. I don't see anything wrong with it. It is only players who think that there is something of a hidden reward for their skill who have a problem with it.

    With the removal of AOE caps small group PVP is now better than ever. I really wish the 1vXers would disappear from the game and stop making everything not fun.


    A game should never cater to a casual player base. That game would get boring real quick. Competition is key for the longevity of the game and casuals shouldn't care whether something is nerfed or not.

    They bought the game so they have every right to care about what gets nerfed. There is no competition, the balance is non existent and the lag unfixed. PvP has been casual since MW anyway~

    People playing the game is the longevity not PvP as much as I luv it. That's why they get new content and we in PvP just get nerfs.

    If they care about the game to the point where they are interested in what might happen to a set and how it might weaken/buff them, then are they actually playing casually? Thats a mindset for competitive players. You misinterpreted everything i said. Please read it over. And no, a game should never cater to a casual player base.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    Don't worry about the grammar. Making it look professional would entail uploading a video of a player who wasn't recklessly spamming Inacap and Surprise Attack when a simple cloak would have removed the tether and made the Monster set on the other player worthless for 18 seconds.

    You missed the point of the video which I've explained previously so please read.

    Koolio wrote: »
    I had a friend test this set out on me last night in a duel. I just stood there to see what it was like.
    Death Recap was

    1300 Dual wield light attack
    23k Zaan

    Now I haven’t seen in cyrodiil so practicality might be terrible. But he killed me with 1 light attack. Just 1.

    Now imagine them actually proccing merciless and soul tether or using abilities while Zaan is ticking. You can't heal through that. No set should be able to kill a player on its own.
    Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition.

    https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0

    Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.

    PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.

    Man... MagBlades have been nerfed every patch since morrowind, I think? Its painful to see someone already complaining about something that supports magblade. Honestly, anything can be exploited initially, but in a few weeks there will be many counters to it, and it won't function as well.
    Ocelot9x wrote: »
    ESO is such a good game (with a nice and skill centered PvP) but ruined by zos politic of monetizing.
    Need to sell morrowind? Op warden for everyone (and yes,I played one to rank 25 PvP soloing so I know what I'm saying)
    Need to sell dragon bones? Op proc set

    And it's laughable how people still defend those dumb sets. L2p lads,l2p

    its really not fair to draw comparisons between a chapter and a DLC, as any monthly subscription circumvents the need to purchase said DLC, which is not the case with morrowind. Also, given the growth of the gaming industry (bigger than movie industry) and with investors expecting the same kind of returns that mobile games get, it's no wonder we see some of the same business models that are used in mobile games being used in console/PC games, e.g. crown store. But, they aren't creating broken sets to sell DLC. That's nonsense.

    I'm a medium stam dk main, I've been gutted too. Magblades were buffed this patch and no class should rely on a set to be competitive. In PVE magblades were already really good prior to DB dlc. Magblades are in a good place, I have a buddy who's mained one since launch and he can still 1vX on a dual wield magblade.

    Edited by Abysswarrior45 on March 1, 2018 8:15AM
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    Koolio wrote: »
    @Abysswarrior45

    Joe king just hit dust with a 30k Zaan proc. Lol.

    Leave it to Joe to go troll tf out of people with it. If he decides to use it you know its overperforming!

    ^^^^ INSIDE JOKE, PLEASE IGNORE ^^^^
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    Koolio wrote: »
    @Abysswarrior45

    Joe king just hit dust with a 30k Zaan proc. Lol.

    Leave it to Joe to go troll tf out of people with it. If he decides to use it you know its overperforming!

    ^^^^ INSIDE JOKE, PLEASE IGNORE ^^^^

    You already know the moment he saw what the set could do he immediately theorycrafted anything he could to cheese everybody.
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    If there only was a CP that reduces damage over time effects like Soul Assault and Zaan ...
    Oh Wait ThEre is its called Thick Skinned .
    On all of my Medium builds i put 56 there so i dont melt to SA and stupid DK dots . So its L2p issue + common knowege .
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    RouDeR wrote: »
    If there only was a CP that reduces damage over time effects like Soul Assault and Zaan ...
    Oh Wait ThEre is its called Thick Skinned .
    On all of my Medium builds i put 56 there so i dont melt to SA and stupid DK dots . So its L2p issue + common knowege .

    I love it when the games introduce some new mechanics that deals 4 times more damage than existing ones and some players just tell others they are not good enough to deal with it.

    Why introduce this in the first place ?
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