Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.
On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »@Minalan Welcome to Marketing...stuff OP=people buy DLC...after 3-6 months they nerf it to the ground cuz we have new DLCs that follow the same pattern =.=
Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.
On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
Abysswarrior45 wrote: »rustic_potato wrote: »It is a set designed against 1vXers.. Play with friends or kill the user before they kill you. Stop whining because ZOS wants the game to be easier and be more casual friendly. I don't see anything wrong with it. It is only players who think that there is something of a hidden reward for their skill who have a problem with it.
With the removal of AOE caps small group PVP is now better than ever. I really wish the 1vXers would disappear from the game and stop making everything not fun.
A game should never cater to a casual player base. That game would get boring real quick. Competition is key for the longevity of the game and casuals shouldn't care whether something is nerfed or not.
Abysswarrior45 wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
rustic_potato wrote: »It is a set designed against 1vXers.. Play with friends or kill the user before they kill you. Stop whining because ZOS wants the game to be easier and be more casual friendly. I don't see anything wrong with it. It is only players who think that there is something of a hidden reward for their skill who have a problem with it.
With the removal of AOE caps small group PVP is now better than ever. I really wish the 1vXers would disappear from the game and stop making everything not fun.
Seraphayel wrote: »I don't see the problem. If Zaan is too strong now there will be builds countering it. More will run those builds and Zaan will become mediocre after some time.
They could increase the duration but keep the damage for a "quick" fix but I don't know if that's a solution.
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Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition.
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
ESO is such a good game (with a nice and skill centered PvP) but ruined by zos politic of monetizing.
Need to sell morrowind? Op warden for everyone (and yes,I played one to rank 25 PvP soloing so I know what I'm saying)
Need to sell dragon bones? Op proc set
And it's laughable how people still defend those dumb sets. L2p lads,l2p
GreenhaloX wrote: »With 40k resistance.. really?! A typical tank doesn't even get that high. What super spinach are you popping on your toon? Anyways, I doubt that Zaan would be hitting that high on a toon with 40k resistance.
Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.
On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
Umm, if you see that nice big flame link, you need to get away. It's basically a build in Jesus beam. Since he stood next to you the WHOLE fight, he deserved to die.
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »@Minalan Welcome to Marketing...stuff OP=people buy DLC...after 3-6 months they nerf it to the ground cuz we have new DLCs that follow the same pattern =.=
Bbsample197 wrote: »wtf is that video?! after he CC'ed you he runs straight towards and not the other way around! ofc zaan will kill him that way, he didnt even attempt to run away from it, he has all the chance!!
Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Sure the night blade played bad but that monster set still took him from 70% to 0%.
Oh well, even a meteor, a dawnbreaker or a dk jump could take you from 70% to 0% in a moment, if you don't deal properly with them. The problem in this video is only that the guy doesn't have any idea about what to do.
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^ what this thread sounds like
GreenhaloX wrote: »With 40k resistance.. really?! A typical tank doesn't even get that high. What super spinach are you popping on your toon? Anyways, I doubt that Zaan would be hitting that high on a toon with 40k resistance.
BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition. If you really need a set that pulls that kind of damage to achieve specific dps/complete content then the only one needing to L2P is you. I'm a PVP player, but I do enjoy the occasional vMoL run and 4 man dungeon runs for skins/dailies. Nobody should have that kind of free damage. Work on your rotation if your dps is lackluster without Zaan. One thing I've noticed is how easy PVE content has become. vMA can be done naked on a mag char (shoutout to Kasa for doing it on her sorc), most veteran dungeons can be soloed on HM, and with the exception of these brand new ones, they can ALL be duoed. Trials you're able to bypass mechanics because of the ridiculous dps people are able to achieve currently like lunar phase in vMoL. Thats stupid. Zaan is over performing in PVE too arguably. In PVP there shouldn't be a debate.
On my stam dk I had a 15k Zaan on my recap from a player I've 1vXed numerous times before. I have 40k resist to magic fully buffed on my backbar and 26k resists on my front bar. I tried rolling to break the beam and had a speed pot up for added mobility since I'm in medium. If a player–good or bad–knows how to walk towards/sprint towards the opponent with Zaan going theres no getting out of it. They can be complete trash but that damage is out of control, its completely broken. Why should anyone have that kind of free damage at the cost of no resources and no penalty? Its a soul assault attached to a set. If you can counter it thats great, perhaps the people you run into aren't the same people I run into. Magblades, mag dks, and magplars are tearing people up with Zaan currently in PVP. You nerfed all the proc sets for stamina users but look what you've given to mag chars who still have skoria. Skoria should have the same treatment tremorscale had as in add a red circle under your feet you can step out of to avoid the meteor. Zaan should be interruptible at the very least. Damage definitely needs to be nerfed even more imo. When you're getting constantly snared by poisons which ignore snare immunity and you have a magblade proccing merciless and the like on you or a mag dk dotting you up WHILE Zaan is going theres no healing through that. This set needs adjustments. Right now its another set for zerglings to throw on and nuke solo players and crazy powerful in duels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
You lost me after L2P. Another nerf post. Let's go over this for the millionth time. Yes, it's strong. It's single target. They want it to do more dps to a single target than Grothdarr, LLambris, etc. That's the point. You can get 2k dps to every enemy in Grothdarr or LLambris, but 3k+ to a single target. It's a tradeoff. That...is...the...point. I have watched plenty of vids of Zaan being warded/healing through. It's not broken. You post a video of the squishiest possible class - a glass cannon Stamblade...and possibly not even a good one. Stop posting about nerfing Zaan.
Quite frankly, I'm glad there may be another way to burst Stamblades down. There are a million of them running around that cloak and run every time their gank doesn't work.
Zaan only does a little over 2k dps.
It has a 10 meter range. Dodge roll and stop whining.
Girl_Number8 wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »rustic_potato wrote: »It is a set designed against 1vXers.. Play with friends or kill the user before they kill you. Stop whining because ZOS wants the game to be easier and be more casual friendly. I don't see anything wrong with it. It is only players who think that there is something of a hidden reward for their skill who have a problem with it.
With the removal of AOE caps small group PVP is now better than ever. I really wish the 1vXers would disappear from the game and stop making everything not fun.
A game should never cater to a casual player base. That game would get boring real quick. Competition is key for the longevity of the game and casuals shouldn't care whether something is nerfed or not.
They bought the game so they have every right to care about what gets nerfed. There is no competition, the balance is non existent and the lag unfixed. PvP has been casual since MW anyway~
People playing the game is the longevity not PvP as much as I luv it. That's why they get new content and we in PvP just get nerfs.
Joy_Division wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
Don't worry about the grammar. Making it look professional would entail uploading a video of a player who wasn't recklessly spamming Inacap and Surprise Attack when a simple cloak would have removed the tether and made the Monster set on the other player worthless for 18 seconds.
I had a friend test this set out on me last night in a duel. I just stood there to see what it was like.
Death Recap was
1300 Dual wield light attack
23k Zaan
Now I haven’t seen in cyrodiil so practicality might be terrible. But he killed me with 1 light attack. Just 1.
ProbablePaul wrote: »Abysswarrior45 wrote: »Before all the PVE players get up in my face saying L2P, hear me out. All PVE content could be completed prior to Zaan's addition.
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4krLkG6A0
Thats just 1 example of Zaan destroying someones entire hp bar. The user even says its broken.
PS: Ignore any grammatical errors. I'm not spending time making this look professional.
Man... MagBlades have been nerfed every patch since morrowind, I think? Its painful to see someone already complaining about something that supports magblade. Honestly, anything can be exploited initially, but in a few weeks there will be many counters to it, and it won't function as well.ESO is such a good game (with a nice and skill centered PvP) but ruined by zos politic of monetizing.
Need to sell morrowind? Op warden for everyone (and yes,I played one to rank 25 PvP soloing so I know what I'm saying)
Need to sell dragon bones? Op proc set
And it's laughable how people still defend those dumb sets. L2p lads,l2p
its really not fair to draw comparisons between a chapter and a DLC, as any monthly subscription circumvents the need to purchase said DLC, which is not the case with morrowind. Also, given the growth of the gaming industry (bigger than movie industry) and with investors expecting the same kind of returns that mobile games get, it's no wonder we see some of the same business models that are used in mobile games being used in console/PC games, e.g. crown store. But, they aren't creating broken sets to sell DLC. That's nonsense.
Abysswarrior45 wrote: »
Leave it to Joe to go troll tf out of people with it. If he decides to use it you know its overperforming!
^^^^ INSIDE JOKE, PLEASE IGNORE ^^^^
If there only was a CP that reduces damage over time effects like Soul Assault and Zaan ...
Oh Wait ThEre is its called Thick Skinned .
On all of my Medium builds i put 56 there so i dont melt to SA and stupid DK dots . So its L2p issue + common knowege .