Sixty5 wrote: »

Because in Tamriel the hidden Vampire Deluminati suppressed the development of the Gorget to keep their easy access to the necks of the unwary public

#RedMountainWasAnInsideJob #WakeUpSheeple

funny you mention vampires they're arguably the ones impacted the most, with their stark-white necks sticking out of the blacks browns and other dark colors so common in armors, outfits and costumes.

Bbbrrrrr

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Seriously though why do so many armors (chests and helms alike) leave such a large area of the neck fully exposed? You'd think someone using armors to protect their body in battlle would be concerned with protecting one of the most crucial and vulnerable parts of the body.

I bought the thieves costume pack years ago but can't bring myself to use any of them because of this little "feature". I think only one of them actually makes any effort at all to cover any of the neck up. It's a really silly thing for costumes that have such a focus on masks/hoods.

A lot of armors leave other body parts exposed as well. Not very good armor.

To be entirely fair, when you've got wards and other magical protection available through spells, physical armor doesn't always have to be 100% practical.

(Okay, yeah, the armor that's actual armor should make sense as armor.)

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Seriously though why do so many armors (chests and helms alike) leave such a large area of the neck fully exposed? You'd think someone using armors to protect their body in battlle would be concerned with protecting one of the most crucial and vulnerable parts of the body.

I bought the thieves costume pack years ago but can't bring myself to use any of them because of this little "feature". I think only one of them actually makes any effort at all to cover any of the neck up. It's a really silly thing for costumes that have such a focus on masks/hoods.

Thieves gear is built for mobility and flexibility. Kinda hard to swivel your head with a big metal plate under your chin. Not to mention the desire to minimize jingles and whatnot so that the enemy doesn't hear you coming before you even get within mile of them.

The only people that have armor covering absolutely everything are front line knights who spend a lot of time getting hit by things, so they would want that armor covering absolutely everything. Everyone else prefers not to get hit in the first place, which means lighter armor that doesn't hinder movement. (That, by the way, is the reason why jousting armor was never worn into battle. If the armor is so restrictive that you would only flop about on the ground if knocked over, then the armor is very likely what will get you killed.)

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Seriously though why do so many armors (chests and helms alike) leave such a large area of the neck fully exposed? You'd think someone using armors to protect their body in battlle would be concerned with protecting one of the most crucial and vulnerable parts of the body.

I bought the thieves costume pack years ago but can't bring myself to use any of them because of this little "feature". I think only one of them actually makes any effort at all to cover any of the neck up. It's a really silly thing for costumes that have such a focus on masks/hoods.

Thieves gear is built for mobility and flexibility. Kinda hard to swivel your head with a big metal plate under your chin. Not to mention the desire to minimize jingles and whatnot so that the enemy doesn't hear you coming before you even get within mile of them.

The only people that have armor covering absolutely everything are front line knights who spend a lot of time getting hit by things, so they would want that armor covering absolutely everything. Everyone else prefers not to get hit in the first place, which means lighter armor that doesn't hinder movement. (That, by the way, is the reason why jousting armor was never worn into battle. If the armor is so restrictive that you would only flop about on the ground if knocked over, then the armor is very likely what will get you killed.)

Okay but when did I say it should be heavy armor? I never said I wanted platemail to protect the throat. I'm just saying it should be covered.

Well, again I would point out that the point of the rogue type armor is to not get hit in the throat in the first place. The armor is made mostly out of leather and is designed to deflect blows made while you are dodging and moving about. It's not meant to absorb repeated, direct hits from a warhammer or something. It mostly covers the areas that are the most likely to take damage, which contrary to what you seem to believe, does not include the throat.

Also There are plenty of PLATE chest/helm combinations that leave a big gaping hole where the throat is. I'd log onto my templar and show you the dozens of images, but I'm too lazy.

Do you have your helm hidden? You may notice that in a lot of those cases, the helm extends down far enough to protect any exposed area of the throat under most circumstances. The ones that don't were clearly meant to emphasize agility, even in heavy armor form. Not every culture embraces the idea of completely encasing a man in a tin box.

Any armor that leaves exposed the most vulnerable/critical part of the wearers body is essentially useless. Fact.

Only if you get hit in that vulnerable/critical part. Fact.

It's magic, like ... It's magic

This is how magic works:

"Hey aren't you cold?"
"No"
"Why not?"
"because I #$&-ing said so"

Glurin wrote: »

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Seriously though why do so many armors (chests and helms alike) leave such a large area of the neck fully exposed? You'd think someone using armors to protect their body in battlle would be concerned with protecting one of the most crucial and vulnerable parts of the body.

I bought the thieves costume pack years ago but can't bring myself to use any of them because of this little "feature". I think only one of them actually makes any effort at all to cover any of the neck up. It's a really silly thing for costumes that have such a focus on masks/hoods.

Thieves gear is built for mobility and flexibility. Kinda hard to swivel your head with a big metal plate under your chin. Not to mention the desire to minimize jingles and whatnot so that the enemy doesn't hear you coming before you even get within mile of them.

The only people that have armor covering absolutely everything are front line knights who spend a lot of time getting hit by things, so they would want that armor covering absolutely everything. Everyone else prefers not to get hit in the first place, which means lighter armor that doesn't hinder movement. (That, by the way, is the reason why jousting armor was never worn into battle. If the armor is so restrictive that you would only flop about on the ground if knocked over, then the armor is very likely what will get you killed.)

Okay but when did I say it should be heavy armor? I never said I wanted platemail to protect the throat. I'm just saying it should be covered.

Well, again I would point out that the point of the rogue type armor is to not get hit in the throat in the first place. The armor is made mostly out of leather and is designed to deflect blows made while you are dodging and moving about. It's not meant to absorb repeated, direct hits from a warhammer or something. It mostly covers the areas that are the most likely to take damage, which contrary to what you seem to believe, does not include the throat.

Also There are plenty of PLATE chest/helm combinations that leave a big gaping hole where the throat is. I'd log onto my templar and show you the dozens of images, but I'm too lazy.

Do you have your helm hidden? You may notice that in a lot of those cases, the helm extends down far enough to protect any exposed area of the throat under most circumstances. The ones that don't were clearly meant to emphasize agility, even in heavy armor form. Not every culture embraces the idea of completely encasing a man in a tin box.

Any armor that leaves exposed the most vulnerable/critical part of the wearers body is essentially useless. Fact.

Only if you get hit in that vulnerable/critical part. Fact.

not to get hit in the first place? please. You're rationale is about as well thought out as Elder Scrolls Online

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

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Vampires infiltrated the Armorers Guild and have gradually changed cultural armor design towards exposed necks in a grand conspiracy.

Its working.

It is an aesthetic oversight on ZOS's part, but since everything has already been made this way, it would be a colossal pain to fix them all.

We need scarves lol.

Glurin wrote: »

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

Seriously though why do so many armors (chests and helms alike) leave such a large area of the neck fully exposed? You'd think someone using armors to protect their body in battlle would be concerned with protecting one of the most crucial and vulnerable parts of the body.

I bought the thieves costume pack years ago but can't bring myself to use any of them because of this little "feature". I think only one of them actually makes any effort at all to cover any of the neck up. It's a really silly thing for costumes that have such a focus on masks/hoods.

Thieves gear is built for mobility and flexibility. Kinda hard to swivel your head with a big metal plate under your chin. Not to mention the desire to minimize jingles and whatnot so that the enemy doesn't hear you coming before you even get within mile of them.

The only people that have armor covering absolutely everything are front line knights who spend a lot of time getting hit by things, so they would want that armor covering absolutely everything. Everyone else prefers not to get hit in the first place, which means lighter armor that doesn't hinder movement. (That, by the way, is the reason why jousting armor was never worn into battle. If the armor is so restrictive that you would only flop about on the ground if knocked over, then the armor is very likely what will get you killed.)

Okay but when did I say it should be heavy armor? I never said I wanted platemail to protect the throat. I'm just saying it should be covered.

Well, again I would point out that the point of the rogue type armor is to not get hit in the throat in the first place. The armor is made mostly out of leather and is designed to deflect blows made while you are dodging and moving about. It's not meant to absorb repeated, direct hits from a warhammer or something. It mostly covers the areas that are the most likely to take damage, which contrary to what you seem to believe, does not include the throat.

When you are running and dodging and everyone is moving and swinging about, it is quite feasible that you can get hit in the throat. Also, people wear groin protection while playing sports for a reason, even if you are not supposed to kick someone there.

Jade1986 wrote: »

What helmet is that?

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

Jade1986 wrote: »

What helmet is that?

I think its skinchanger

Thanks. It looks pretty cool. Although I'm sure it would be terribly annoying to see through in real life.