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Share your notable Immersion breaking moments!

  • Donari
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    Bleakraven wrote: »
    The absence of Race-specific dialogue, like argonians telling me I wouldn't understand something when i'm an argonian. Or dunmer not recognizing i'm an argonian and talking *** about argonians. At least this is somewhat happening less in Vvardenfell.

    I dunno, my Khajiiti Warden just had Dunmer talking trash to her face about "cat" mercenaries and "beast-races" and they didn't even drop a casual "no offense" in there even while thanking her for being heroic against the mercs. She had some rrrrrrrrsnarl action going on with her mouth there.

    Sharp contrast to one of my most immersive moments, very early in the game as my Redguard DK (made on EP b/c all my friends wanted EP) trotted through a Nord city and a random Nord bystander said "You don't often see a Redguard around here."

    About the cavalier hats -- as others have noted in this thread they are -not- cowboy hats at all. They have one side folded up and a flat top. They are 17th century musketeer hats. Perhaps still a little outside the overall Tamriel aesthetic, but not nearly as anachronistic as cowboy hats.
    Edited by Donari on February 25, 2018 4:24AM
  • WakeYourGhost
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    Me and my guild are just innocently running around looking for books wearing nothing but Tabards and some weirdo starts talking about Jesus and the 2nd Amendment in Zone.
    Can’t a mix-race group of tabard-wearing naked adventurers punch tigers in peace while going on a hunt for glowing blue story books that are shorter than the script for a Steven Universe episode?
    Well, to be fair, Jesus was a strong gun supporter. :D

    Yeah, didn't he say something about "If someone slaps you, turn your gat sideways and unload on that fool."?

    I don't know.. Not too up on my "New New Gospel"


    I've also had countless moments where my pet moves in to a position where I'm looking at the inside of their skulls or times where I see a deer head sticking out of a rock...
  • Twenty0zTsunami
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    Not me directly, but i got shot down by someone in Vivec City not long ago for breaking their immersion and ruining what was otherwise a good game. I was killing npcs whilst farming for motifs. Not my fault the current game design requires you to kill npcs as to maintain a constant source of farming. The guy should be playing Skyrim if he wants to create and maintain certain parameters within an RPG.

    found the pickpocket. lots of drunkards in vivec? or priests?
  • boombazookajd
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    I started playing in Vvardenfell when I bought the game; back then I was rather immersed in the story and really wanted to help out the floating blue/green guy. Then one time I went into his little palace thing and there were about 5 different duels going on at the same time.

    Then I finally set foot in Auridon and Vulkhel Guard.

    Then I went to Grahtwood.

    Suffice to say I don't think there is anything that immerses me into the game now.
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    I started playing in Vvardenfell when I bought the game; back then I was rather immersed in the story and really wanted to help out the floating blue/green guy. Then one time I went into his little palace thing and there were about 5 different duels going on at the same time.

    Then I finally set foot in Auridon and Vulkhel Guard.

    Then I went to Grahtwood.

    Suffice to say I don't think there is anything that immerses me into the game now.

    I rationalise this behaviour by thinking in terms of tournaments of old. The melee portion must've looked something like VG on a Friday night.

    Sort of works for me. Then again, I'm not all that fussed about immersion in an MMO. Gave that idea up back in the last century.

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Lylith
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    when keep doors won't open in cyrodil.

    /rage

  • Everstorm
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    Lot of immersion breaking stuff comes with the genre, much of which is simply other people, I can accept that.
    Some things do make me sigh sometimes, like all the disco mounts, npcs not reacting to player vampire/werewolf. Long lost ancient dungeons filled with undead, and hundreds of lit candles.
    And while I love the One Tamriel change it did (potentially) butcher quite a few quest chains. Lot of quests still refer to you as having no soul no matter if you already finished the main quest or haven't even started it.
  • ListerJMC
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    There have been a few, but my favourite is probably doing the Rivenspire storyline on a vampire.

    Verandis: "This veil was designed to hinder vampires, so it shouldn't affect you and you'll be able to lead us through the ruins."

    My stamblade, a vampire: ................

    Maybe someone needs to get their eyes tested :p
    Edited by ListerJMC on February 25, 2018 9:06AM
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  • LadyAstrum
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    I don't have a nice story to tell, but pretty much every time I see a name that's either rude or barely even a name: "ggbg" "Irockyoudont" "Boogercake" "HawtManz" and the best kind: "XxMegolasxX....etc. These are not real names btw (if they are it is coincidence), I simply use these as an example. People that can't be bothered to think of world-friendly names make me wish ESO had an RP server. I don't even roleplay in this game, but it's nice to see people actually take time to come up with decent names.

    Most names make me laugh, however, some are quite clever, others very sweet.
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  • ArchMikem
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    Visual Context for the OP.

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  • Elsterchen
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    Lyranth, is a daedra one has to interact with in order to enter the Reaver Citatel (Main story line, last step prior to fighting molag bals army in coldhabour). As for now, I would not do this quest with my main, a templar of akatosh... who doesn't dangle with daedra. Back then however, there was no way around it. Either complete the main story or stay stucked in your fractions part of tamriel. I did try any and everything to get around talking to that daedra, tried to glitch into the Citatel without that few lines of monologue ... I even played cyro for a few weeks with that char. Started a new char (not a templar and with more ... moderate... views and opinions ). Just because I felt it was just wrong to ask my templar to do as much as talk to its sworn enemy (while I already had to put up with fellow vampires and werewolfs, the rivenspire storyline etc etc etc).

    Point is ... for me it was really a hard decision: either stay stucked on my main or progress abandoning what I felt was a vital part of this chars "personality".

    After a long debate with the support and beeing sick and tired of cyro, I give in and let my char take that nonsense talk with Lyranth. Once done I talked to Sir Cadwell who said something along the lines of: having a nice chat with your new friend ? ...


    I think i jabbed cadwell for over an hour for giving that comment!
    Edited by Elsterchen on February 25, 2018 9:58AM
  • FoulSnowpaw
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    There's no wilderness. Everywhere you look there's a blasted structure or some crazy daedric thing.

    Everyone in Tamriel has a problem. Everyone specifically needs YOU to help them. They chase you faster than your horse can sprint begging for help.

    Everyone in the game is a vampire because it's the meta. I guess that's immersion breaking? Or not?

    I would like to see more places like Gold Coast tbh... open space with wild things and no immersion breaking structures laying about.
    Edited by FoulSnowpaw on February 25, 2018 10:02AM
  • EvilCroc
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    With every new lvl3 character in starting alliance zone. Have not done anything notable yet:
    DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU???
  • Kendaric
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    Most common things that break immersion for me:

    Stage 3 and 4 vampires entering civilized areas and no one cares about it, especially not the guards.
    Verandis in Rivenspire completely ignoring vampire characters.
    Suicidal bears, wolves and cats charging my characters when there are deer or other prey near them.
    NPCs that are in locations they shouldn't be yet (this was introduced with 1 Tamriel)
    NPCs and quests that presume a character being soul-shriven, despite not even having started the main quest (since Morrowind)
    Bounties being known all across the factions.
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    • starkerealm
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      Donari wrote: »
      Bleakraven wrote: »
      The absence of Race-specific dialogue, like argonians telling me I wouldn't understand something when i'm an argonian. Or dunmer not recognizing i'm an argonian and talking *** about argonians. At least this is somewhat happening less in Vvardenfell.

      I dunno, my Khajiiti Warden just had Dunmer talking trash to her face about "cat" mercenaries and "beast-races" and they didn't even drop a casual "no offense" in there even while thanking her for being heroic against the mercs. She had some rrrrrrrrsnarl action going on with her mouth there.

      Sharp contrast to one of my most immersive moments, very early in the game as my Redguard DK (made on EP b/c all my friends wanted EP) trotted through a Nord city and a random Nord bystander said "You don't often see a Redguard around here."

      About the cavalier hats -- as others have noted in this thread they are -not- cowboy hats at all. They have one side folded up and a flat top. They are 17th century musketeer hats. Perhaps still a little outside the overall Tamriel aesthetic, but not nearly as anachronistic as cowboy hats.

      The dialog's gotten better. A lot of stuff at launch does not query the player's race, or other relevant statuses. Vvardenfell's probably the best about this. But, the original game had stuff like:

      Werewolf Hunter: "Here, take this enchanted magical doodad, it will force any lycanthrope that touches it to reveal their true form."
      Werewolf Player: "You're sure this thing works?"
      Werewolf Hunter: "Yeah, why do you ask?"

      And of course, any quest where you're interacting with vampires. Bonus points if the intrepid group of vampire hunters hires a vampire to aid them in their hunt without realizing it. At least that Dunmer Vampire Hunter did, eventually, realize what you are, years later, in Cyrodiil.
    • Danikat
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      Tandor wrote: »
      Most of the examples here are pretty typical of any MMO (or other CRPG), especially in relation to conflicting factions which really only the original EQ got right.

      I imagine that if I used zone chat or voice chat I would find it hard to maintain any semblance of immersion, but without them the main issues for me are probably player names (no worse here than anywhere else) and dueling around wayshrines etc. On the whole, however, I find the sense of immersion pretty good and no different to the offline TES titles, where things like the inventory management (including handing loads of weapons, pieces of armour and sundry other gear to the young lady in Skyrim who is sworn to carry my burden) are as nonsensical as anything in ESO. I've played every TES title and people delude themselves with a lot of their put-downs of ESO in comparison to those games, every single game is just that - a game - rather than to be taken as seriously as real life itself.

      Yeah inventory management tends to be pretty unrealistic in any game. Starting with a character who appears to have no container larger than a pocket who is somehow able to carry 3 full sets of heavy armour, 5 staves (each longer than she is) and dozens of other items and still have both hands free to fight.

      In Skyrim I ended up hanging onto quite a few useless (for my character) but valuable items because I got them early on when my speechcraft skill was too low to get a good price for them. So I stored them all in the chest in my bedroom, even though it was smaller than most of the items which were somehow inside it.

      I also kept saving alchemy reagents, telling myself I'd look up a guide and learn all their properties sometime. That sounded boring so I kept putting it off and ended up with several thousand reagents all stored nearly inside a pouch about the size of my characters palm, on top of the alchemy station.
      Elsterchen wrote: »
      Lyranth, is a daedra one has to interact with in order to enter the Reaver Citatel (Main story line, last step prior to fighting molag bals army in coldhabour). As for now, I would not do this quest with my main, a templar of akatosh... who doesn't dangle with daedra. Back then however, there was no way around it. Either complete the main story or stay stucked in your fractions part of tamriel. I did try any and everything to get around talking to that daedra, tried to glitch into the Citatel without that few lines of monologue ... I even played cyro for a few weeks with that char. Started a new char (not a templar and with more ... moderate... views and opinions ). Just because I felt it was just wrong to ask my templar to do as much as talk to its sworn enemy (while I already had to put up with fellow vampires and werewolfs, the rivenspire storyline etc etc etc).

      Point is ... for me it was really a hard decision: either stay stucked on my main or progress abandoning what I felt was a vital part of this chars "personality".

      After a long debate with the support and beeing sick and tired of cyro, I give in and let my char take that nonsense talk with Lyranth. Once done I talked to Sir Cadwell who said something along the lines of: having a nice chat with your new friend ? ...


      I think i jabbed cadwell for over an hour for giving that comment!

      Well having to do things you thought you never would is sometimes a part of life, especially in extreme circumstances like trying to save the world from total annihilation, so it's not totally unrealistic. In situations like that I appreciate the game not voicing your characters lines because then I have the freedom to imagine how they say it. If that was my character they would have spoken to the daedra but grudgingly (maybe including looking for alternatives first) and been very abrupt - absolute bare minimum of dialogue to get it done. And Cadwell calling them friends would be a sarcastic response to their obvious distaste at the conversation.
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    • Asha_Mar
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      When you encounter someone awkwardly crouch-shuffling behind NPCs in broad daylight on a busy city street, followed by massive flappy pets.

      Also, stealth missions. Painstakingly sneaking through, immersed in the story and your current stealthy goal... when suddenly there are 5 other players and a random trail of flappy summons and pets zooming past you.




    • Invincible
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      The crown specials advertisement box that pops up on log in every few days letting me know I can buy a horse and 2 dungeons for $40.....
    • Grimm13
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      DoctorESO wrote: »
      supaskrub wrote: »
      Recently a Crown Store item did it for me, I'm not the "immersion" type of player but there was one hat that was for sale that resulted in line dancer/cowgirls almost everywhere i went.. I just thought it was trashy actually and spoiled the theme of the game a little more than my immersion.

      That's the winter hats. Don't hate me, but I did buy one!

      Winter-Corsage-Broadbrim-Dyed-Front.jpg

      I call that the pimp of christmas past hat.
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    • Owondyah
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      The character names...

      People ruin immersion literally every second of gameplay with it ;) But that's something you can't fix completely.
    • Balamoor
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      ZOS_Edward wrote: »
      Zone Chat. ;)

      Immersion in MMOs has always been difficult to maintain for a variety of reasons. The sheer amount of people running around in Hot Pants in Star Wars Galaxies taught me that.

      I applaud those who make the effort to suspend their disbelief in an effort to feel immersed, but at some point you have to accept you're in an MMO and go with it.

      Yeah....that is basically what I tell myself when I am entering the ancestral tomb, that no one dared step foot in generations....and there are 90 people bunny hopping inside and some idiot spamming for vamp bites at the entrance.

      or we could talk about the whole Dark Brotherhood intro quest train wreck.

      I mean it's not like things like that could be instanced or anything...that tech is wizardry beyond mere mortal comprehension.

      :-/
      Edited by Balamoor on February 25, 2018 1:02PM
    • Adernath
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      For me an immersion breaking moment was in beta, where I saw that ships in Cyrodiil, Shadowfen and Bankorai/Stormhaven basically could not get out of their ports without hitting a bridge or land (too few space to maneuver at all). I hope that if one day they decide to overwork original zones to bring it more in line with the DLC content, they will pay more attention to that.
    • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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      Bonus points if the intrepid group of vampire hunters hires a vampire to aid them in their hunt without realizing it. At least that Dunmer Vampire Hunter did, eventually, realize what you are, years later, in Cyrodiil.

      We've got Morvath's sire and potentially Serana in Dawnguard; there's precedent for both sides working together with and without mutual knowledge. From the vampire side, several strains are rivals with one another so helping some mortal hunters go stake a rival clan isn't that big of a stretch. Admittedly a little less forgivable given that so many hunters are clueless about the vampire thing when the ESO strain leaves visible physical changes, unlike some of the other strains...
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    • Jixjax
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      Any time my mount hits a puddle of water and dismounts me.
    • Hurbster
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      I'm talking to the sister of the new Green Lady. This ardent follower of the Green Pact is sitting there eating a loaf of bread !
      So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.
    • dsalter
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      Hurbster wrote: »
      I'm talking to the sister of the new Green Lady. This ardent follower of the Green Pact is sitting there eating a loaf of bread !

      bone marrow bread? :p
      Edited by dsalter on February 25, 2018 4:01PM
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    • DoctorESO
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      Everstorm wrote: »
      Lot of immersion breaking stuff comes with the genre, much of which is simply other people, I can accept that.
      Some things do make me sigh sometimes, like all the disco mounts, npcs not reacting to player vampire/werewolf. Long lost ancient dungeons filled with undead, and hundreds of lit candles.

      I always wondered why all these long lost dungeons have lit candles and fires galore.
    • DoctorESO
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      LadyAstrum wrote: »
      I don't have a nice story to tell, but pretty much every time I see a name that's either rude or barely even a name: "ggbg" "Irockyoudont" "Boogercake" "HawtManz" and the best kind: "XxMegolasxX....etc. These are not real names btw (if they are it is coincidence), I simply use these as an example. People that can't be bothered to think of world-friendly names make me wish ESO had an RP server. I don't even roleplay in this game, but it's nice to see people actually take time to come up with decent names.

      Most names make me laugh, however, some are quite clever, others very sweet.

      Yeah, some names are pretty bad. I saw one claiming to be a recruiter for a certain terrorist organization, and another with the name of a racist hate group from World War II.
    • Lysette
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      To me it is that stuff, what does not look very TES like - and it get's worse with any new "limited sale" - more and more absolutely ugly, glowing stuff with particles and what not - all so far away from what TES was like in the past. And of course the MMO-style gameplay content - this is absolutely alien to me.
    • DoctorESO
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      Immersion breaks when all doors of a building magically lock when in combat or being chased by a guard.
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