Magicka Templar dps

NoFlash · February 2018

Do any of these exist in pve or pvp? I heard sweeps and Jesus beam is bugged. Can anyone clarify?

WuffyCerulei · February 2018

Jesus beam and sweeps have been fixed in Dragon Bones. Magplars are actually pretty good now, especially with Mechanical Acuity. I easily do about 35k on mine, but I don't use sweeps. I use force pulse instead.

casparian · February 2018

Magplar PVE DPS is better than it's been for several patches. BSW + Acuity + Zaan performs very well.

Unfortunately, it's not enough. We don't do anything close to stamina builds' DPS, meaning there's still no real reason to bring a melee magplar along in a raid. You can run a ranged build with Force Pulse instead of Sweeps, but then you'll just be doing a magblade's job worse. And playing a templar without Sweeps feels wrong anyway..

NoFlash · February 2018

I think I read that in pve they work but PvP it's still bugged. Thank you for replying!

cazlonb16_ESO · February 2018

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Jesus beam and sweeps have been fixed in Dragon Bones.

Some of the issues have been fixed, others weren't touched and new ones added, particularly in PvP.

Voxicity · February 2018

I'm running 2 Zaan 5 Mechanical 5 Moondancer and pulling pretty nice dps

I don't do serious raids so it's all good for me, but if you want to raid then leave magplar alone

morrowjen · February 2018

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

Jesus beam and sweeps have been fixed in Dragon Bones. Magplars are actually pretty good now, especially with Mechanical Acuity. I easily do about 35k on mine, but I don't use sweeps. I use force pulse instead.

I haven't played my magplar since the new patch but before it was pretty much only useful as a healer.

NoFlash · February 2018

thanks for the replys everyone! i decided to just be a healer. R.I.P. the magplar deeps dream lol

casparian · February 2018

EvoAZN wrote: »

thanks for the replys everyone! i decided to just be a healer. R.I.P. the magplar deeps dream lol

Truly a representation of our times :'(

SoLooney · February 2018

magplars are in a better spot than mag dks, js

Cadbury · February 2018

casparian wrote: »

EvoAZN wrote: »

thanks for the replys everyone! i decided to just be a healer. R.I.P. the magplar deeps dream lol

Truly a representation of our times :'(

Yeah, I feel you. I mained Templar ever since console launch, but nowadays I've been swayed to the "dark side" (magblade and magsorc)

ArchMikem · February 2018

Voxicity wrote: »

I'm running 2 Zaan 5 Mechanical 5 Moondancer and pulling pretty nice dps

I don't do serious raids so it's all good for me, but if you want to raid then leave magplar alone

Thats a bad attitude, fight the system, fight the meta.

Raghul · February 2018

Melee magplar doing pretty good this patch tbh, here is my test with dw aquity, master architect and zaan

https://youtu.be/JvVU0DeGIh4

DoctorESO · February 2018

EvoAZN wrote: »

Do any of these exist in pve or pvp? I heard sweeps and Jesus beam is bugged. Can anyone clarify?

What's the deal with Radiant Destruction being called Jesus beam? I know that term has been around a while, but why? I don't think Jesus ever beamed anyone down to death.

Cadbury · February 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

EvoAZN wrote: »

Do any of these exist in pve or pvp? I heard sweeps and Jesus beam is bugged. Can anyone clarify?

What's the deal with Radiant Destruction being called Jesus beam? I know that term has been around a while, but why? I don't think Jesus ever beamed anyone down to death.

In my headcanon, Jesus totally used lazor beams.

Personally, I'd gladly trade in RD for a move like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCha2lbWYhM

SugaComa · February 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

EvoAZN wrote: »

Do any of these exist in pve or pvp? I heard sweeps and Jesus beam is bugged. Can anyone clarify?

What's the deal with Radiant Destruction being called Jesus beam? I know that term has been around a while, but why? I don't think Jesus ever beamed anyone down to death.

Templars are Knights of the holy ...

Radiant destruction and the other morph harness the light of the holy to do damage

You know what ... I've no idea ... Just go with it

Prizax · February 2018

SugaComa wrote: »

DoctorESO wrote: »

EvoAZN wrote: »

Do any of these exist in pve or pvp? I heard sweeps and Jesus beam is bugged. Can anyone clarify?

What's the deal with Radiant Destruction being called Jesus beam? I know that term has been around a while, but why? I don't think Jesus ever beamed anyone down to death.

Templars are Knights of the holy ...

Radiant destruction and the other morph harness the light of the holy to do damage

You know what ... I've no idea ... Just go with it

The answer to this is very simple, it's because the Templars are Jesus.

Prizax · February 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

I'm running 2 Zaan 5 Mechanical 5 Moondancer and pulling pretty nice dps

I don't do serious raids so it's all good for me, but if you want to raid then leave magplar alone

Thats a bad attitude, fight the system, fight the meta.

Yeah F the system.

Bbsample197 · February 2018

if you want to do vet trials then your better off with other class, if not then magplar is suprisingly good this patch i mean not a high end tier but its def an upgrade than the last few months

FakeFox · February 2018

While it is true that Dragon Bones is a improvement for Magplars they are still very weak in PvE and suffer from bugs. You can for sure play them in PvE and get through most content, but what is the point? Just play Stamplar, do the exact same thing and have 50% more DPS. In PvP on the other hand they can be very potent.

NiclasFridholm · February 2018

FakeFox wrote: »

While it is true that Dragon Bones is a improvement for Magplars they are still very weak in PvE and suffer from bugs. You can for sure play them in PvE and get through most content, but what is the point? Just play Stamplar, do the exact same thing and have 50% more DPS. In PvP on the other hand they can be very potent.

This patch Magplars will most likely pass Stamplars in Melee Deeps

Voxicity · February 2018

ArchMikem wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

I'm running 2 Zaan 5 Mechanical 5 Moondancer and pulling pretty nice dps

I don't do serious raids so it's all good for me, but if you want to raid then leave magplar alone

Thats a bad attitude, fight the system, fight the meta.

You can't 'fight the meta' if you're seriously raiding. It's selfish to take up a melee spot as a magplar when a stam char could be there pulling 5k more dps.

Somber97866 · February 2018

It always boiles down to endgame. Why can't they just buff it in the pve side so it competes and be done with it? ZOS to lazy or something?

FoulSnowpaw · February 2018

Buff Jesus Beam

Cadbury · February 2018

As much as some like to "fight the meta", it's always going to be a losing battle.

Conformity does have its place, at least in regards to MMOs.

Gigasax · February 2018

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

While it is true that Dragon Bones is a improvement for Magplars they are still very weak in PvE and suffer from bugs. You can for sure play them in PvE and get through most content, but what is the point? Just play Stamplar, do the exact same thing and have 50% more DPS. In PvP on the other hand they can be very potent.

This patch Magplars will most likely pass Stamplars in Melee Deeps

Stamplars do way more DPS in raids than Magplars.
Did some runs with both, Stamplar does about 4-8k more ST DPS than Magplars, even with support sets equipped

Tinus_92 · February 2018

Bbsample197 wrote: »

if you want to do vet trials then your better off with other class, if not then magplar is suprisingly good this patch i mean not a high end tier but its def an upgrade than the last few months

You can do any vet trials with a magicka templar, including hardmodes. Just don't use it if you're in hodor-like guilds running top #1 scores, and even then it may be doable compared to other magicka classes.

I don't get how everyone is focussing on pure dps numbers only and tell people magicka templar isn't welcome in veteran dungeons. If you're doing 43k single target that will be over 50-60k dps during trials considering you know the mechanics and don't die. Let alone that a magicka templar also got a very good AoE damage on mob pulls. That's stronger then 99% of the average playerbase and thus you'll be doing trial hardmodes along with it just fine. The mayority of trial groups have to improve theirselves on mechanics and try to avoid deaths, instead of 5k additional dps. Always been like that, too. Once you and your trial group have mastered a trial, then look at those last numbers and further group optimalization for those last percentages.

DoctorESO · February 2018

Tinus_92 wrote: »

Bbsample197 wrote: »

if you want to do vet trials then your better off with other class, if not then magplar is suprisingly good this patch i mean not a high end tier but its def an upgrade than the last few months

You can do any vet trials with a magicka templar, including hardmodes. Just don't use it if you're in hodor-like guilds running top #1 scores, and even then it may be doable compared to other magicka classes.

I don't get how everyone is focussing on pure dps numbers only and tell people magicka templar isn't welcome in veteran dungeons. If you're doing 43k single target that will be over 50-60k dps during trials considering you know the mechanics and don't die. Let alone that a magicka templar also got a very good AoE damage on mob pulls. That's stronger then 99% of the average playerbase and thus you'll be doing trial hardmodes along with it just fine. The mayority of trial groups have to improve theirselves on mechanics and try to avoid deaths, instead of 5k additional dps. Always been like that, too. Once you and your trial group have mastered a trial, then look at those last numbers and further group optimalization for those last percentages.

Yes, horse before the cart.

LadyNalcarya · February 2018

Gigasax wrote: »

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

While it is true that Dragon Bones is a improvement for Magplars they are still very weak in PvE and suffer from bugs. You can for sure play them in PvE and get through most content, but what is the point? Just play Stamplar, do the exact same thing and have 50% more DPS. In PvP on the other hand they can be very potent.

This patch Magplars will most likely pass Stamplars in Melee Deeps

Stamplars do way more DPS in raids than Magplars.
Did some runs with both, Stamplar does about 4-8k more ST DPS than Magplars, even with support sets equipped

Stamplars also provide high uptime of power of the light...

FakeFox · February 2018

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

While it is true that Dragon Bones is a improvement for Magplars they are still very weak in PvE and suffer from bugs. You can for sure play them in PvE and get through most content, but what is the point? Just play Stamplar, do the exact same thing and have 50% more DPS. In PvP on the other hand they can be very potent.

This patch Magplars will most likely pass Stamplars in Melee Deeps

Best joke I read in a while.

swirve · February 2018

Just play magsorc... its the intended magic DPS class, everything else is just for fun.