Honestly Ill stick with velidrith. Weapon damage and single target damage. Everyone is walking around with 30k resists and heavy armor so 5k and 1 k splash is pointless.

What I really want to know is this.

I know that in some games the procs have an internal scaling mechanic to prevent people from overloading "proc rolls" into a unit of time and thus getting "auto-proc".

Example. Suppose you have a proc chance of 10% per hit. Character A does only light attacks at the rate of - let us suppose - 1 hit per second. So on average once every 10 seconds the proc should, well, proc. Meanwhile, Character B stacks up multiple DoTs such that the enemy takes 5 hits per second (from different skills), and so should, on average, get the proc up every couple of seconds. To combat this you, the developer, would build a limit on the number of "proc rolls" per GCD block, or an internal cooldown (not visible to the player) between procs, or some other such mechanic.

Does such a thing exist in ESO? In other words, if I just do one DoT do I get a similar chance to proc Skoria vs. staking 4 DoTs on top of one another? Or, conversely, the more DoTs, the faster Skoria procs?

Balanced.<3 Skoria. Takes dots to use, so isn't godOP but packs a punch.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

No. Bad design. Implosion is an incredibly RNG and annoying mechanic. But in PvE it is useful DPS boost for both sorcs.

It might be OKish on a SDK, since they have 3 possible poison dots (No one uses corrosive lel.) But with a MagDK using embers, engulfing, talons, burning and something like an ult it'd be OP.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

I believe every stam sorc will disagree with that.

why would they? stamsorc passives are god tier compared to stamDK, implosion is just a bonus for them.

stamsorc has very high regen values, very high tooltips, cost reduction passives, all kinds of good stuff.

ak_pvp wrote: »

Balanced.<3 Skoria. Takes dots to use, so isn't godOP but packs a punch.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

No. Bad design. Implosion is an incredibly RNG and annoying mechanic. But in PvE it is useful DPS boost for both sorcs.

It might be OKish on a SDK, since they have 3 possible poison dots (No one uses corrosive lel.) But with a MagDK using embers, engulfing, talons, burning and something like an ult it'd be OP.

true, but It doesnt have to be an exact copy of implosion, magDk might not need one, but stamDK being the worst dot build is an insult to the class. A poison based implosion would partially fix that.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

I believe every stam sorc will disagree with that.

why would they? stamsorc passives are god tier compared to stamDK, implosion is just a bonus for them.

stamsorc has very high regen values, very high tooltips, cost reduction passives, all kinds of good stuff.

ak_pvp wrote: »

Balanced.<3 Skoria. Takes dots to use, so isn't godOP but packs a punch.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

No. Bad design. Implosion is an incredibly RNG and annoying mechanic. But in PvE it is useful DPS boost for both sorcs.

It might be OKish on a SDK, since they have 3 possible poison dots (No one uses corrosive lel.) But with a MagDK using embers, engulfing, talons, burning and something like an ult it'd be OP.

true, but It doesnt have to be an exact copy of implosion, magDk might not need one, but stamDK being the worst dot build is an insult to the class. A poison based implosion would partially fix that.

Your argument is all over the place. So what now, is Implosion a badly designed passive? I think we can agree that it actually is just that. So it would still be a badly designed passive if you give it to any other class.

I agree that mag sorcs don't have as bad passives as DKs. But why do you want to drag other classes down to an arguably bad level instead of lifting the one class with the useless passives? Also other classes have quite nice passives too, but whatever, right?

And now, let's look at what great passives stam sorcs have to offer:
Power Stone, Unholy Knowledge, Enegized and Implosion. Good passives, right. But that's not the level I'd call "overloaded with good passives". Also mind that other classes have ways to increase their ultimate frequency or regen (hello Refreshing Shadows and catalyst) as well.

Why not expert mage? 2% wpn dmg for each class skill slotted. How many class skills do you slot on your stam sorcs front bar? 1? At most 2 since you need to dive deep into weapon lines for not having many offensive class skills. The other one or two skills lay on back bar or even on overload.
Daedric Protection forces me to slot either Atronach (which is easily countered in PvP) or to sacrifice two slots for Bound Armor (*cough* magic flood *cough* dark vigor *cough*).
Capacitator grants me whooping 60 mag regen. Nice.

The other 5 passives are completely useless for the stam sorc himself.

E: I think we can agree that DK need some love. I can imagine an passive that increases DoT dmg on lower health targets but not a real "Implosion" passive. That passive just needs to be deleted from the game.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

I believe every stam sorc will disagree with that.

why would they? stamsorc passives are god tier compared to stamDK, implosion is just a bonus for them.

stamsorc has very high regen values, very high tooltips, cost reduction passives, all kinds of good stuff.

ak_pvp wrote: »

Balanced.<3 Skoria. Takes dots to use, so isn't godOP but packs a punch.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

ESO 2018. People complaining skoria is too weak...

Never said it was weak. I said the proc chance was low.

There is literally zero logic in those 2 sentences You've just said. One is contradicting another.

Actually, no. Strength and frequency are different things. And they do not contradict each other.

So a 1% chance to insta kill a boss/ player would be balanced?

you mean implosion?

Sort off But on a serious note, implosion doesn't instakills bosses or player (without being in execute area). Dmg scales off your max health, it has a 6% chance and a really tight threshold. So tight that any other non-dot would kill you anyway. But I said it before and I say it again: RNG passives are bad. Unfair for the reciever, unreliable for the sorc. So I'd be fine if they change it to something that is reliable AND usefull.

I don't think sorc needs any other reliable passive, they are already overloaded with good passives.

I would move implosion to Dks and give sorcs their old c.frags back.

No. Bad design. Implosion is an incredibly RNG and annoying mechanic. But in PvE it is useful DPS boost for both sorcs.

It might be OKish on a SDK, since they have 3 possible poison dots (No one uses corrosive lel.) But with a MagDK using embers, engulfing, talons, burning and something like an ult it'd be OP.

true, but It doesnt have to be an exact copy of implosion, magDk might not need one, but stamDK being the worst dot build is an insult to the class. A poison based implosion would partially fix that.

Your argument is all over the place. So what now, is Implosion a badly designed passive? I think we can agree that it actually is just that. So it would still be a badly designed passive if you give it to any other class.

I agree that mag sorcs don't have as bad passives as DKs. But why do you want to drag other classes down to an arguably bad level instead of lifting the one class with the useless passives? Also other classes have quite nice passives too, but whatever, right?

And now, let's look at what great passives stam sorcs have to offer:
Power Stone, Unholy Knowledge, Enegized and Implosion. Good passives, right. But that's not the level I'd call "overloaded with good passives". Also mind that other classes have ways to increase their ultimate frequency or regen (hello Refreshing Shadows and catalyst) as well.

Why not expert mage? 2% wpn dmg for each class skill slotted. How many class skills do you slot on your stam sorcs front bar? 1? At most 2 since you need to dive deep into weapon lines for not having many offensive class skills. The other one or two skills lay on back bar or even on overload.
Daedric Protection forces me to slot either Atronach (which is easily countered in PvP) or to sacrifice two slots for Bound Armor (*cough* magic flood *cough* dark vigor *cough*).
Capacitator grants me whooping 60 mag regen. Nice.

The other 5 passives are completely useless for the stam sorc himself.

E: I think we can agree that DK need some love. I can imagine an passive that increases DoT dmg on lower health targets but not a real "Implosion" passive. That passive just needs to be deleted from the game.

I would be totally fine if they went ahead and deleted implosion completely from the game, but my point was that an implosion based of dots would actually somewhat make sense on a Dk, much more than a sorc.