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[PC NA] Why can't AD win?

  • Telel
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    Tetrafy wrote: »
    Telel wrote: »
    Well the good news is that we can all agree that so many of the bloops are cowards.

    Also bowtatoes are silly, and bridge fighters should go back to playing Halo 2 against their grandmother.

    Wait what if Im a brotatoe using defile on my bow and enjoy Halo 2?

    Then you have all the qualifications to be bridge bait. Bonus points if you claim to be an AD purist mere minutes before you're found on your EP main behind fifty other zerglings.

    Also, get off the server. You're taking up space that could be used for someone useful. :p
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  • Minalan
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    Message from DC zone chat the other night:

    [Name_Redacted]: I just asked for a group two times and nobody invited me yet! I’m going back to AD. DC sucks!

    [Other_Name_Redacted]: kthxbye

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    I’d say that’s indicative of a slight problem.

    That said, Telel videos are entertaining and instructional. Call me a spy, but the guy really spends time with new people who need the help.

    Edited by Minalan on February 20, 2018 7:09AM
  • GlorphNoldorin
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    DC is winning campaigns because we hold numbers advantage at key times during the day. Having said that DC does very well in prime time to hold a few back keeps when AD and EP faction stack. This is a daily occurrence often for many hours, having EP and AD sit at Alleswell and Ash.

    A major reason AD and EP dont do better is that their top guilds have no interest in the map. They prefer farming AP. Most of DC guilds do play the map. DC is for the most part disorganized for much of the day(often when the best opponent guilds stream) to the consternation of many in zone chat.

    Whilst there are many very good small man teams from EP and AD I rarely see DC get beaten in even number open field fights. Taking keeps/outposts is a different story.....too many potatoes. That's what I see...feel free to disagree.
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    Whilst there are many very good small man teams from EP and AD I rarely see DC get beaten in even number open field fights. Taking keeps/outposts is a different story.....too many potatoes. That's what I see...feel free to disagree.

    You sure about that? In regards to zerg v zerg faction stack fights? Cus after just two days of playing on other factions in years, im finding dc to be the most farmable. In particular, the number of star ranked players who are prime small scale material is thru the roof. Literally chock full of experienced potatoes. Maybe this is due to the numbers advantage and faction stacking you mention.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    CyrusArya wrote: »

    Whilst there are many very good small man teams from EP and AD I rarely see DC get beaten in even number open field fights. Taking keeps/outposts is a different story.....too many potatoes. That's what I see...feel free to disagree.

    You sure about that? In regards to zerg v zerg faction stack fights? Cus after just two days of playing on other factions in years, im finding dc to be the most farmable. In particular, the number of star ranked players who are prime small scale material is thru the roof. Literally chock full of experienced potatoes. Maybe this is due to the numbers advantage and faction stacking you mention.

    When all they do is zerg, they get no experience playing in solo or small group situations. Therefore they are pretty terrible when they get exposed to such encounters.

    It's the reason that guilds should seek each other out for fights in the field, imo. If all a group does is farm pugs, then that's all they will ever know how to do.

    There's a reason I run around solo on my mDK a lot when I'm not in group. It's to get better and keep getting practice in. I've never claimed to be the best player in the world. I may not even be in the top half, but at least I feel I put up a decent fight.

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  • GlorphNoldorin
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    You sure about that? In regards to zerg v zerg faction stack fights?
    Yes

  • GlorphNoldorin
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    You sure about that? In regards to zerg v zerg faction stack fights?
    Yes
    ++ I am not talking about when the top guilds are involved. Drac, Invivtus Fantasia etc often have pugs grouped with them, often/usually when no organized DC guilds are on.

  • jaime1982
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    Ad is winning in vivec right now aren't they?
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

    I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

    We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

    Elite training. Hahahahahaha that’s a good one.
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  • VaranisArano
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    jaime1982 wrote: »
    Ad is winning in vivec right now aren't they?

    That's a bit of an awkward point, given that AD gained a substantial lead due to having the most active player base when the problem with the queues locking out players happened. Its not like it was AD's fault, but this also hasn't been a normal campaign either.

    Moreover, there have been several times over the last few campaigns when AD has made pushes to get in first or second that don't last for the length of the campaign.
  • vamp_emily
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    mmmm... I have heard stories about players being in IC getting banned for gaining too much XP during the bug. Maybe all AD should be banned exploiting the map during the PvP bug. :)

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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    mmmm... I have heard stories about players being in IC getting banned for gaining too much XP during the bug. Maybe all AD should be banned exploiting the map during the PvP bug. :)

    As if AD had any control over who gets in and who gets to be kept out. Has to be a troll. Stop trying to use troll king on the forums please.
    Edited by IZZEFlameLash on February 21, 2018 12:33AM
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  • vamp_emily
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    As if AD had any control over who gets in and who gets to be kept out. Has to be a troll. Stop trying to use troll king on the forums please.

    come on, some people in IC didn't even look at how much XP they were getting and they got banned. If AD took the map with nobody on it they must of known something was wrong but they continued playing.

    #get off my leg


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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    As if AD had any control over who gets in and who gets to be kept out. Has to be a troll. Stop trying to use troll king on the forums please.

    come on, some people in IC didn't even look at how much XP they were getting and they got banned. If AD took the map with nobody on it they must of known something was wrong but they continued playing.

    #get off my leg

    IC Exp thing is an unfortunate glitch that might result in banning of innocent TV farmers as well as real exploiters such as bringing their lowbies to kill few mobs to hit max level. Rollback would've been the most appropriate course of action, but that didn't happen. ZOS made decisions, cannot do anything about it. But this queue glitch?

    It's a different story. And capping during empty hours happen regardless of queue being clogged up for everyone who wishes to enter Cyrodiil past the prime times and so does the pre-maintenance cap. And they are accepted methods of winning or emping.

    Craps like this happen and it went all ways. All factions, by your definition, would be subjects to ban if they ever capped anything during queue glitch. Because a player from different faction than you can also claim that your faction exploited the queue glitch and caused the queue glitch. I saw 3 bar EP or DC or AD compared to 1 bar AD or DC or EP during last week. Not exactly 1 faction's fault.

    Going by your statement, I should ask DC and EP's Asia/Oceanic populations to be banned then. Because they usually steamroll through keeps with 0~7 people defending because poor AD's queue must be glitched deliberately by them! How unfair and dishonorable non-elite trained warriors they are!
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  • VaranisArano
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    As if AD had any control over who gets in and who gets to be kept out. Has to be a troll. Stop trying to use troll king on the forums please.

    come on, some people in IC didn't even look at how much XP they were getting and they got banned. If AD took the map with nobody on it they must of known something was wrong but they continued playing.

    #get off my leg

    IC Exp thing is an unfortunate glitch that might result in banning of innocent TV farmers as well as real exploiters such as bringing their lowbies to kill few mobs to hit max level. Rollback would've been the most appropriate course of action, but that didn't happen. ZOS made decisions, cannot do anything about it. But this queue glitch?

    It's a different story. And capping during empty hours happen regardless of queue being clogged up for everyone who wishes to enter Cyrodiil past the prime times and so does the pre-maintenance cap. And they are accepted methods of winning or emping.

    Craps like this happen and it went all ways. All factions, by your definition, would be subjects to ban if they ever capped anything during queue glitch. Because a player from different faction than you can also claim that your faction exploited the queue glitch and caused the queue glitch. I saw 3 bar EP or DC or AD compared to 1 bar AD or DC or EP during last week. Not exactly 1 faction's fault.

    Going by your statement, I should ask DC and EP's Asia/Oceanic populations to be banned then. Because they usually steamroll through keeps with 0~7 people defending because poor AD's queue must be glitched deliberately by them! How unfair and dishonorable non-elite trained warriors they are!

    Unbalanced populations that happen naturally are exactly the same and just as bad as unbalanced populations that happen when ZOS bugs the queues and no one can get in to fight! Totally.

    I'm not blaming AD, because Im certain EP or DC would have continued playing if the shoe were on the other foot. But pretending it was business as usual is just silly.

    Not that it matters. AD's been steadily losing that lead they gained during the bugged queues.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    I'm not blaming AD, because Im certain EP or DC would have continued playing if the shoe were on the other foot. But pretending it was business as usual is just silly.

    I was just trying to make it clear that It is not AD fault and that it is hard to prove that ill intentions were there to make it an exploit on faction scale. I might not have put it the best though.
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  • Minalan
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    Sorry to hurt your banana pride, but you guys totally painted the map yellow when the opportunity presented itself. It IS your factions fault for taking advantage of the busted queue. A hundred or so of you said ‘lol’ and kept it up, despite knowing it was probably broken.

    BUT. I can’t count how many times DC has pulled EMP fifteen minutes before the maintenance shutdown. So, there’s plenty of shame to go around, it’s not like AD is unique in this or anything.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Sorry to hurt your banana pride, but you guys totally painted the map yellow when the opportunity presented itself. It IS your factions fault for taking advantage of the busted queue. A hundred or so of you said ‘lol’ and kept it up, despite knowing it was probably broken.

    BUT. I can’t count how many times DC has pulled EMP fifteen minutes before the maintenance shutdown. So, there’s plenty of shame to go around, it’s not like AD is unique in this or anything.

    Personally, I am more surprised to see how many people have accused AD of intentionally glitching up the queue to dominate the map. May be they are right. May be they are not. But it sure did affect all factions. As I stated, I tried to queue up at different times and for sure, each faction had higher pop than others across different time periods. So, it is not AD fault at all. Because I am pretty sure the entire faction was not hell bent on intentionally clogging up the queue system. Or that they were the only ones aware of work around the problem before Gina posted it.

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  • Jadokis
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Sorry to hurt your banana pride, but you guys totally painted the map yellow when the opportunity presented itself. It IS your factions fault for taking advantage of the busted queue. A hundred or so of you said ‘lol’ and kept it up, despite knowing it was probably broken.

    BUT. I can’t count how many times DC has pulled EMP fifteen minutes before the maintenance shutdown. So, there’s plenty of shame to go around, it’s not like AD is unique in this or anything.

    The very next day AD was stuck 1 bar while both EP and DC were pop locked. Didn't stop them from taking our keeps and going for scrolls.

    ???
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Jadokis wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Sorry to hurt your banana pride, but you guys totally painted the map yellow when the opportunity presented itself. It IS your factions fault for taking advantage of the busted queue. A hundred or so of you said ‘lol’ and kept it up, despite knowing it was probably broken.

    BUT. I can’t count how many times DC has pulled EMP fifteen minutes before the maintenance shutdown. So, there’s plenty of shame to go around, it’s not like AD is unique in this or anything.

    The very next day AD was stuck 1 bar while both EP and DC were pop locked. Didn't stop them from taking our keeps and going for scrolls.

    ???

    Inb4 "you did it, so we did too. Therefore, we were not exploiting"
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  • A_G_G_R_O
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    DC is winning campaigns because we hold numbers advantage at key times during the day. Having said that DC does very well in prime time to hold a few back keeps when AD and EP faction stack. This is a daily occurrence often for many hours, having EP and AD sit at Alleswell and Ash.

    A major reason AD and EP dont do better is that their top guilds have no interest in the map. They prefer farming AP. Most of DC guilds do play the map. DC is for the most part disorganized for much of the day(often when the best opponent guilds stream) to the consternation of many in zone chat.

    Whilst there are many very good small man teams from EP and AD I rarely see DC get beaten in even number open field fights. Taking keeps/outposts is a different story.....too many potatoes. That's what I see...feel free to disagree.

    “DC guilds do play the map”

    Zergling faction confirmed.

    But seriously like if you win the campaign what do you actually get, just some bogus a## rewards and like 5k gold for all that boring siege work. Could farm nodes for 2 hours make more money then pvp the way you want and buy any of the trash campaign winning rewards of some deck peeking pleb who “trying to win the campaign”.

    If they put in some actual real reward for winning the campaign I think EP and AD guilds would care more to sweat it out.

    I guess when you get outplayed you can say “check the sthththcoredboard losther “
    *mouth breathing intensifies*
    “My faction is in firsthtttest place, go PvTree elsthewhere”
  • VaranisArano
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    A_G_G_R_O wrote: »
    DC is winning campaigns because we hold numbers advantage at key times during the day. Having said that DC does very well in prime time to hold a few back keeps when AD and EP faction stack. This is a daily occurrence often for many hours, having EP and AD sit at Alleswell and Ash.

    A major reason AD and EP dont do better is that their top guilds have no interest in the map. They prefer farming AP. Most of DC guilds do play the map. DC is for the most part disorganized for much of the day(often when the best opponent guilds stream) to the consternation of many in zone chat.

    Whilst there are many very good small man teams from EP and AD I rarely see DC get beaten in even number open field fights. Taking keeps/outposts is a different story.....too many potatoes. That's what I see...feel free to disagree.

    “DC guilds do play the map”

    Zergling faction confirmed.

    But seriously like if you win the campaign what do you actually get, just some bogus a## rewards and like 5k gold for all that boring siege work. Could farm nodes for 2 hours make more money then pvp the way you want and buy any of the trash campaign winning rewards of some deck peeking pleb who “trying to win the campaign”.

    If they put in some actual real reward for winning the campaign I think EP and AD guilds would care more to sweat it out.

    I guess when you get outplayed you can say “check the sthththcoredboard losther “
    *mouth breathing intensifies*
    “My faction is in firsthtttest place, go PvTree elsthewhere”

    PVTree, LOL!
  • GlorphNoldorin
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    “DC guilds do play the map”

    Zergling faction confirmed.

    If they put in some actual real reward for winning the campaign I think EP and AD guilds would care more to sweat it out.

    I guess when you get outplayed you can say “check the sthththcoredboard losther “
    *mouth breathing intensifies*
    “My faction is in firsthtttest place, go PvTree elsthewhere”[/quote

    Yeah DC is the zergling faction, AD and EP are the honorable factions who just outplay the massed hordes of DC who have no skill but pop defeat the hapless ad and ep. LOL You never see AD or EP faction stack keeps and then camp them in prime time....it just never happens coz they are the honorable factions....no zergling factions there.

    Point being....not sure how u can say any faction is not a zergling faction.

    Agree about rewards



  • antihero727
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    We are zerging all the time, all factions, even trees are zerging. The only things not zerging is the extinct deer of Cyrodiil.
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  • VaranisArano
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    We are zerging all the time, all factions, even trees are zerging. The only things not zerging is the extinct deer of Cyrodiil.

    I'm not sure I want to PvTree anymore...
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  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Jadokis wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Sorry to hurt your banana pride, but you guys totally painted the map yellow when the opportunity presented itself. It IS your factions fault for taking advantage of the busted queue. A hundred or so of you said ‘lol’ and kept it up, despite knowing it was probably broken.

    BUT. I can’t count how many times DC has pulled EMP fifteen minutes before the maintenance shutdown. So, there’s plenty of shame to go around, it’s not like AD is unique in this or anything.

    The very next day AD was stuck 1 bar while both EP and DC were pop locked. Didn't stop them from taking our keeps and going for scrolls.

    ???

    AD was at one bar for maximum 1 scoring evaluation.
    EP and DC were bugged for 5-6 scoring evals. That being said it won't make any difference in the long run.
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  • Emma_Overload
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    AD is full of shady scamblades! Blame the Bosmer passives.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    The AD lead had already all but disappeared last night during prime time.

    I expect it to be gone by the weekend.
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  • Telel
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    The AD lead had already all but disappeared last night during prime time.

    I expect it to be gone by the weekend.

    You're probably right. Though Telel wonders why that might be....

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    Oh, right. Mystery solved. o:)

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  • Pchela
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    Telel wrote: »
    The AD lead had already all but disappeared last night during prime time.

    I expect it to be gone by the weekend.

    You're probably right. Though Telel wonders why that might be....

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    Oh, right. Mystery solved. o:)

    bidness as usual for EP around those hours. :/
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