Zen's Medium Stamina Warden PVP

Zenartista · February 2018

https://youtu.be/e2RojyxDyig

Here's some gameplay I've accumulated, hope you enjoy.
I'm Playing on AD at the moment !

5 Medium 2 Heavy
5 Knight Errant
5 Draugr Hulk
2 Selene's
Running a dead 2h dead slot cause I'm too busy to gold out my asylum 2h

Thogard · February 2018

you dont run shimmering shield
you dont seem to run speed pots
youre in medium armor but you dont have shuffle?
youre in medium armor but you also dont have ice fortresss?!??!
Knight errant... i dunno about that. wardens already get the exact same thing from lotus
Selenes.. but you dont have a root or snare (no stampede...)
draugr hulk is just not that efficient anymore.

and why run medium if you aren't goign to take advantage of the wep dmg increase? you dont use wep dmg sets.. except knight errant... and that doesn't really count as a big source of dmg.

I'm not quite sure what you're going for here.

Sixty5 · February 2018

This looks like one of those builds that works really well when you are better than your opponents

Zenartista · February 2018

Thogard wrote: »

you dont run shimmering shield
you dont seem to run speed pots
youre in medium armor but you dont have shuffle?
youre in medium armor but you also dont have ice fortresss?!??!
Knight errant... i dunno about that. wardens already get the exact same thing from lotus
Selenes.. but you dont have a root or snare (no stampede...)
draugr hulk is just not that efficient anymore.

and why run medium if you aren't goign to take advantage of the wep dmg increase? you dont use wep dmg sets.. except knight errant... and that doesn't really count as a big source of dmg.

I'm not quite sure what you're going for here.

shimmering shield?
effective but boring to me, ill just dodge roll what i can.

speed pots?
i get major expedition from bird of prey, rather use immovables.

shuffle?
snare immunity from forward momentum, reallllly cheap too

ice fortress?
ill give you this one, however I've been running with another warden that runs it so i didn't need it on my bar, my resist are still in the 20ks and the minor maim from heroic helps so I'm not too squishy. plus I play this with a lot of dodge rolls and timed blocks to mitigate damage.

Knight's Errant same as lotus?
Not the same, it's 2 separate heals. Add this to my imperial red diamond passive for another heal, the HoT from forward momentum, Warden passive Bond with Nature, thats alot of passive healing. virtually every skill on my bar has a healing property to it. Plus once i get Snb to 50 ill get the snb unti Shield Discipline free snb spam while defending will be dope.

Selenes with no snare?
heroic slash has a snare. plus animation cancel spam with reverb bash stun mixed in there procs selene alot, And if I had to be entirely truthful the biggest reason i wear selene is for that "ROAR"

feel good man

Draugr hulk, medium with out dmg increase?
How much damage do you honestly need to stack to kill somebody? 3.4k wpn dmg fully buffed with 34k stam plus 8% damage increase from bird of prey. Add this to wardens burst potential and ac spam. For me its enough damage.

I'm not quite sure what you're going for here.
I would say that is pretty accurate son.

Sixty5 wrote: »

This looks like one of those builds that works really well when you are better than your opponents

I do alright against most people. I'm just trying to have some fun using some weird sets man, Don't care much for what everyone else is doing. But I'm not delusional i know your not gonna pull most of this stuff on better players.
I just enjoy medium warden gameplay, reminds me of playing medium stam sorc 2h/bow
If some Pro player with crazy gear wants to kill me and feel big, It's whatever. I'm not playing this game to be competitive nor do I play enough for that.

Stratforge · February 2018

I have been trying to figure out a build I like with Knights Errant. Cool ideas here man.

callen4492 · February 2018

Zenartista wrote: »

I just enjoy medium warden gameplay, reminds me of playing medium stam sorc 2h/bow
If some Pro player with crazy gear wants to kill me and feel big, It's whatever. I'm not playing this game to be competitive nor do I play enough for that.

Not trying to hate on your build but it seems like Knight Errants and Draugr Hulk is "crazy gear" to me. They're both dungeon sets which would take a long time to grind for. I HATE grinding for dungeon sets.
Interesting build though, especially that you feel you can get away without using major resolve/ward and shinmering shield.

Zenartista · February 2018

Stratforge wrote: »

I have been trying to figure out a build I like with Knights Errant. Cool ideas here man.

thanks man, I'm still messing with it. I was thinking of trying eternal hunt since I do all this dodge rolling.

callen4492 wrote: »

Zenartista wrote: »

I just enjoy medium warden gameplay, reminds me of playing medium stam sorc 2h/bow
If some Pro player with crazy gear wants to kill me and feel big, It's whatever. I'm not playing this game to be competitive nor do I play enough for that.

Not trying to hate on your build but it seems like Knight Errants and Draugr Hulk is "crazy gear" to me. They're both dungeon sets which would take a long time to grind for. I HATE grinding for dungeon sets.
Interesting build though, especially that you feel you can get away without using major resolve/ward and shinmering shield.

well I guess what I mean by crazy gear are players using what sets ups are available in popularized sets.
but I get your point and yes I can see my set up as crazy
theres sets I want to try with this set up I think would work well but like you I hate grinding sets and I don't feel compelled to farm anymore

Irylia · February 2018

May as well play a different class if you don’t take advantage of the shimmering shield ult gen.
Also no asylum or bs pairing with wardens insane ult potential
The 8% dmg mit on ice fortress
No reason to run medium if no shuffle
Or no reason to use forward momentum if you are medium and could use shuffle.
Not to mention the healing received from heavy armor helps a lot with using forward.

Additionally your sustain is worse than heavy because you don’t use any Stam gen bonuses so you will run dry far earlier than heavy who benefits from constitution keeping your mag bar happy and heavy attack sustain.

I’d go stamplar if you enjoy playing that way. Stack medium armor damage and have access to purify

Ragnarock41 · February 2018

Irylia wrote: »

May as well play a different class if you don’t take advantage of the shimmering shield ult gen.
Also no asylum or bs pairing with wardens insane ult potential
The 8% dmg mit on ice fortress
No reason to run medium if no shuffle
Or no reason to use forward momentum if you are medium and could use shuffle.
Not to mention the healing received from heavy armor helps a lot with using forward.

Additionally your sustain is worse than heavy because you don’t use any Stam gen bonuses so you will run dry far earlier than heavy who benefits from constitution keeping your mag bar happy and heavy attack sustain.

I’d go stamplar if you enjoy playing that way. Stack medium armor damage and have access to purify

and with all the thing he lacks his build still overperforms the average joe's stamDK.

because stamden is totally balanced and not at all overtuned.

Zenartista · February 2018

Irylia wrote: »

May as well play a different class if you don’t take advantage of the shimmering shield ult gen.
Also no asylum or bs pairing with wardens insane ult potential
The 8% dmg mit on ice fortress
No reason to run medium if no shuffle
Or no reason to use forward momentum if you are medium and could use shuffle.
Not to mention the healing received from heavy armor helps a lot with using forward.

Additionally your sustain is worse than heavy because you don’t use any Stam gen bonuses so you will run dry far earlier than heavy who benefits from constitution keeping your mag bar happy and heavy attack sustain.

I’d go stamplar if you enjoy playing that way. Stack medium armor damage and have access to purify

Here's the thing.
I've already played like that so I hear what your saying about the skills your suggesting.
I'm not trying to advocate for the set I'm wearing so don't misunderstand, I can see why a lot of people would dislike what I'm doing here.
However. I'm not using certain set ups not because I don't know they are good. I'm building my sets around a different playstyle.

I can see how the stuff you see may seem like nonsense but I'm not building my character to play like every other warden.
that's not fun for me.

You don't know my champ points or my stats and to be honest I haven't even put too much time to it. I haven't even enchanted my weapons'
I just made an AD warden slapped some sets I thought would work and went to pvp and level skills and get the skill points I was missing through ranking up.
I'm synergizing other stuff you cant see unless I sit here and explain
And even if you knew you probably would not agree with it.

But again I'm not building around what other people have proven to themselves as too strong to pass up.
I'm building with the mindset that I think knight errants is a dope set and I wanted to make it work for me.
Regardless if its lacking in what people consider must have set ups.

That's not interesting to me.

oh and Templars, I have two. The class move set for the most part is silly looking IMO. I cant bear to look at it anymore so they sit unplayed.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Irylia wrote: »

May as well play a different class if you don’t take advantage of the shimmering shield ult gen.
Also no asylum or bs pairing with wardens insane ult potential
The 8% dmg mit on ice fortress
No reason to run medium if no shuffle
Or no reason to use forward momentum if you are medium and could use shuffle.
Not to mention the healing received from heavy armor helps a lot with using forward.

Additionally your sustain is worse than heavy because you don’t use any Stam gen bonuses so you will run dry far earlier than heavy who benefits from constitution keeping your mag bar happy and heavy attack sustain.

I’d go stamplar if you enjoy playing that way. Stack medium armor damage and have access to purify

and with all the thing he lacks his build still overperforms the average joe's stamDK.

because stamden is totally balanced and not at all overtuned.

this whole game is a mess. Its easy to make an overpowered character.

Irylia · February 2018

Well I can appreciate using other sets for the sole reason of wanting to make them work in your own way.
It’s not that you don’t have damage or survivability it is you could min max it to a greater effect.
But I do like how you tread off the beaten path.
I’ve turned my magsorc into a defile frost mage a long while back and it’s absolutely nasty in duels. I haven’t seen any other sorcs pick that up yet but if they do it works well for duels but can lack in open world.

I also can’t give you too much crap because I’ve tried various builds on sorc to provide myself with forward momentum and drop a resto/destro but lack of healing defeats that wish.

Plenty of cool and unique sets to be utilized although sadly thy don’t always provide us with the best set up.

PhoenixGrey · February 2018

Shimmering shield - this skill makes you invincible to all projectile based builds for 6 seconds. After this duration has elapsed your fighters guild ultimate is activated enabling you to burst one or more enemies instantly.

This skill alone is enough to play this class. Slot it buddy.

Zenartista · March 2018

Irylia wrote: »

Well I can appreciate using other sets for the sole reason of wanting to make them work in your own way.
It’s not that you don’t have damage or survivability it is you could min max it to a greater effect.
But I do like how you tread off the beaten path.
I’ve turned my magsorc into a defile frost mage a long while back and it’s absolutely nasty in duels. I haven’t seen any other sorcs pick that up yet but if they do it works well for duels but can lack in open world.

I also can’t give you too much crap because I’ve tried various builds on sorc to provide myself with forward momentum and drop a resto/destro but lack of healing defeats that wish.

Plenty of cool and unique sets to be utilized although sadly thy don’t always provide us with the best set up.

yea I feel I understand min maxing and to be fair I did switch out the knight errant and building around it. not because I didn't like it but you are correct in getting greater effects. I do wish zos buffs Knight errants and other less popular sets so we can see a greater variety of builds in PVP.

cool sorc though, I hade a weird one of those too a while back. It was a Pelinals Magicka Sorcerer Werewolf in medium armor.
i would stack weapon damage and at full buff I hatd something like 4.5k spell damage after taking a resource. It would function more or less like a magicka sorc but I would dodge roll around more and lighting form and sprint for distance for line of sight. If things got too crazy I would wolf out and tank. It didnt have much offensively in wolf form but If I remember correctly wolf heal was healing me for 13k+ or so on a crit.

PhoenixGrey wrote: »

Shimmering shield - this skill makes you invincible to all projectile based builds for 6 seconds. After this duration has elapsed your fighters guild ultimate is activated enabling you to burst one or more enemies instantly.

This skill alone is enough to play this class. Slot it buddy.

I slot and removed this skill depending on sniper spams. its really powerful, honestly I hope it gets a little more balanced.
feels like you don't run out of magicka using it and that ulti regen is ridiculous