The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

That's fair enough. As I said though just pick them up as you need them, and check for Crown/DLC sales.

The game has a lot of content and whilst some DLC synergise well (Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild) they can all be purchased and played through as you need them. You can also skip the Dungeon DLC if you're not doing group content or Imperial City if you're not interested in the Dungeons and PvP area.

Because greedy evil money loving corporate leprechauns ...




Or "The mans trying to keep you down!"

Or maybe , just maybe ... It's a bundle deal still cheaper then we paid day one for each ?

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

The truth has been spoken!!!! -slams wizards staff down-

Azurya wrote: »

Trensharo wrote: »

Yea, I don't really like the lock-in aspect of a subscription, where I have to keep paying even if I only want to play the game 1 hour a week ;-) I try not to dedicate my time to just one game these days. Subscription is a bad deal, for me. I'd rather just purchase the content packs... But this pricing is a bit of an eye-popper. Going to pass for now and check if there is some sort of sale in the future.

It's just too much for me.

you don´t have to buy all at once
if you go eating in restaurant you don´t have to order the whole cart just to get your belly filled
buy what you need and a few months later you buy something else perhaps
it is up to you, your freedom to choose

If it's my choice to choose what DLC I buy, then it's my choice to choose what food I eat, and how much of the menu I buy.

I'd still react negatively if I looked at the menu and saw their Apple Pie costing $450. I'm not really commenting on how much I want to buy. I'm commenting on the cost of it. It seems a bit high, to me...

I think you're losing sight of the core issue/question/topic of the thread.

Why is my choice to buy all the DLC a problem? Buying it piece by piece doesn't make it any cheaper... It's still the same price. I just want to know why it's so bloody expensive when almost every other game I play lets you do a content access catch-up for $20-40.

I'm not going to invest in it if it's going to end up being a $110 content catch up when I can buy a WoW expansion for $50 that includes everything, or GW2 Path of Fire for $30, etc. etc.

Trensharo wrote: »

Yea, I don't really like the lock-in aspect of a subscription, where I have to keep paying even if I only want to play the game 1 hour a week ;-) I try not to dedicate my time to just one game these days. Subscription is a bad deal, for me. I'd rather just purchase the content packs... But this pricing is a bit of an eye-popper. Going to pass for now and check if there is some sort of sale in the future.

It's just too much for me.

It doesnt lock you in, you can go month to month and cancel at any time.

You will want the sub perks so buy a sub. You will get craft bag and everyone needs craft bag. Senseless to buy DLC. Just get Morrowind + a Subscription.

It's possible your autocorrect got you, too.

Everything wants to be predictive, these days ;-)

Trensharo wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

If Sorc wasn't such an awful pet class and BGs weren't DLC content, this would make a lot more sense to me.

Subscription isn't an option for me. I'm sure it's great for some people, but I'm not subscribing. It's too restrictive and forces you to bleed cash on something you only want to play super a little at times, simply to retain access to it.

You can sub for an month or two, it let you do the quests in an zone, you can do the dungeons even farm them a bit for gear
Be warned that the extra bank space and the crafting bag is very easy to get used to and if you only play a couple of hour / week its probably not worth it

You also get crowns with a sub, almost the same amount you'd get by buying them without subscription.

With a 3-month subscription's worht of crowns (4500), you can purchase 2-4 DLCs (without sales). So you have 3 months to try (or even complete) all DLCs and, after that, you can purchase the 2-4 of them you enjoy/need the most... if you don't want to sub again, that is.

Or you can keep the crowns and wait for a sale.

Buying crowns outside a crown sale doesn't make much sense, you are better off with an equivalent sub.

Yeah the business model while on the store page *appears* to be the most generous available, its actually a minefield of extortion traps when you look at the pricing, and that its fully accounted for both 1500 free crowns, and zenimax looking to have their cake and eat it too.. your sub and extra transactions.

Unfortunately for us there's only a few graceful options:
- Only subscribe to get the crowns, and overload the crown value with bonus access to the dlc. The crafting bag is replaced with gameplay + a mod (plus the $40 retail bank assistant if you want to go that far) thankfully its not that exclusive.
- Lean on the fact that as other people have mentioned, the dlc is completely optional, therefore if you can control your urge to purchase now instead of later (.. thats all this is admit it) you can do it on your own terms.

Its a shame that something so fair turns out to be so foul at heart, but if that's what they need to do.. best leave the score to the content not the business model.

Every now and then they have a 'free ESO plus' week, you could use that to try out some of the DLC you're iffy about and see if you really want it. I will note they had one recently so it's unlikely they'll have another one soon though.

Trensharo wrote: »

Azurya wrote: »

Trensharo wrote: »

Yea, I don't really like the lock-in aspect of a subscription, where I have to keep paying even if I only want to play the game 1 hour a week ;-) I try not to dedicate my time to just one game these days. Subscription is a bad deal, for me. I'd rather just purchase the content packs... But this pricing is a bit of an eye-popper. Going to pass for now and check if there is some sort of sale in the future.

It's just too much for me.

you don´t have to buy all at once
if you go eating in restaurant you don´t have to order the whole cart just to get your belly filled
buy what you need and a few months later you buy something else perhaps
it is up to you, your freedom to choose

If it's my choice to choose what DLC I buy, then it's my choice to choose what food I eat, and how much of the menu I buy.

I'd still react negatively if I looked at the menu and saw their Apple Pie costing $450. I'm not really commenting on how much I want to buy. I'm commenting on the cost of it. It seems a bit high, to me...

I think you're losing sight of the core issue/question/topic of the thread.

Why is my choice to buy all the DLC a problem? Buying it piece by piece doesn't make it any cheaper... It's still the same price. I just want to know why it's so bloody expensive when almost every other game I play lets you do a content access catch-up for $20-40.

I'm not going to invest in it if it's going to end up being a $110 content catch up when I can buy a WoW expansion for $50 that includes everything, or GW2 Path of Fire for $30, etc. etc.

You're missing the point though. the apple pie doesn't cost $450, its the apple pie and every variety of pie other desert on the menu that totals out to $450. The pie alone is about $20.

Everyone you've disregarded until this point, is making a valid point. if you want to try them out, sub. Buy the ones you like, or feel are worth it..

I personally buy the ones I feel are important to making the game feel complete-- IE the ones that unlock new territories and quests. ones that solely add dungeons to my queue list? I gain access to via the sub. Orsinium, Thieves Guild, DBH, Morrowind I feel are essential Because without them portions of the over world are inaccessible.

. Hist, Clockwork City, Horns? I pass over on in favor of just accessing them via sub. Because even though I've bought DLC, I pretty much am subbed any time that I am playing the game. mostly ebcause the craft bag. That being said, I could have gone without purchasing any of them. I just felt the ones I did purchase were necessary to feel I have full access to the game, should my subscription lapse.

That being said, since it opens up full new zones, I will probably purchase clockwork, and did get the CEof dragon bones, because I wanted that skeletal horse and wyvern. Also most people would do the opposite of what I did, and just sub then blaze through TG/DBH content quickly, reapt he rewards and be done with it to buy whatever dlc they prefer.