$100+ to buy DLCs

Ancientwolf

At one hour a week it will take you 2 years to even get to any of the DLC. At that rate, A single $14.99 for one month gives you free crowns to buy the DLC you will only put 12 hours into over a year. Just going by what you said you had to devote timewise to it. (shrug)

heaven13

The DLC is some of the most reasonably priced content in the entire crown store. Sure, it will cost a lot to get it at once, but that's pretty normal. Buying all the Mass Effect 3 DLCs cost me more than the trilogy combined.

As others have said, you could sub for one month: cancel it immediately so it's not going to charge you at the end and see what you like. Of course, if you really are only playing one hour a day you're not going to accomplish much in a month so you might not have time to take advantage of the all the DLCs before your time expires. I'm not sure if Guilds and Glory is still available in the crown store or not; it shows on the website and in my crown store as purchased (but I have gold edition).

cbaudersub17_ESO

"Free crowns" is a myth. Everyone spending them bought them one way or another.

jakeedmundson

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed.

It absolutely does.... think of anything you've ever purchased. Supply and demand affects video games too.
Morrowind, for example, was $40 when it came out... it wasn't worth it to me so i dropped eso for about 8 months. I found it around x-mas time at Costco for 10 bucks. So here i am again until the next "chapter" comes out for another $40.

Reverb

Twenty0zTsunami

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jakeedmundson

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed.

It absolutely does.... think of anything you've ever purchased. Supply and demand affects video games too.
Morrowind, for example, was $40 when it came out... it wasn't worth it to me so i dropped eso for about 8 months. I found it around x-mas time at Costco for 10 bucks. So here i am again until the next "chapter" comes out for another $40.

Does it? The entire reasont he content has value to you is because you have not experienced it. Just because you wait 3 years doesn't mean the value of the experience goes down for you lol

You're confusing personal value with hype/perceived value.
You really can't think of ONE thing you've bought and saw it 2 months later for a third of the price? This happens to EVERYTHING.

Anotherone773

Game make money one of 3 ways or a combination of 3 ways:

1) They sell you content.
2) They sell you a sub.
3) The use a micro transaction store.

Devs dont work for free. They like to be paid. Game companies are like every other business in the world, their main goal is to make a profit.

You have 3 choices:

1) Dont buy any of the content and dont play it.
2) Buy a subscription get all DLC free until you cancel PLUS 1500 crowns a month( This really is the best deal)
3) Buy the extra content.

Do you pay less because you only watch 1 hour of tv a day or use your phone 1 hour a week? No. You pay for a month of access. How much you use it during a month is up to you and if you want to split your time between 3 or 4 phones with different companies, that is also your choice. YOU lower the value of the sub by choice.

But even if you only play this game for 4 hours a week, you are playing it for $1 an hour. Thats pretty cheap for entertainment in this century.

SGT_Wolfe101st

Seriously, the DLC's span almost 2.5 years, if you take that and spread it out you are looking at like $20.00 a year. Divide that by hours played or days in the year and the cost to stay up to date with game is small. I am the first to roast Zo$ for their money grab business model and the excessive cost of some items (looking at you costume token, 7/15 day experience scrolls, Crown Crates), but ESO+ is a viable alternative and if you want all the DLC's and need to "catch up" then there is a cost associated with that, of all the things in this game the DLC's are probably the most reasonably priced.

Nihility42

Trensharo wrote: »

Azurya wrote: »

Trensharo wrote: »

Yea, I don't really like the lock-in aspect of a subscription, where I have to keep paying even if I only want to play the game 1 hour a week ;-) I try not to dedicate my time to just one game these days. Subscription is a bad deal, for me. I'd rather just purchase the content packs... But this pricing is a bit of an eye-popper. Going to pass for now and check if there is some sort of sale in the future.

It's just too much for me.

you don´t have to buy all at once
if you go eating in restaurant you don´t have to order the whole cart just to get your belly filled
buy what you need and a few months later you buy something else perhaps
it is up to you, your freedom to choose

If it's my choice to choose what DLC I buy, then it's my choice to choose what food I eat, and how much of the menu I buy.

I'd still react negatively if I looked at the menu and saw their Apple Pie costing $450. I'm not really commenting on how much I want to buy. I'm commenting on the cost of it. It seems a bit high, to me...

I think you're losing sight of the core issue/question/topic of the thread.

Why is my choice to buy all the DLC a problem? Buying it piece by piece doesn't make it any cheaper... It's still the same price. I just want to know why it's so bloody expensive when almost every other game I play lets you do a content access catch-up for $20-40.

I'm not going to invest in it if it's going to end up being a $110 content catch up when I can buy a WoW expansion for $50 that includes everything, or GW2 Path of Fire for $30, etc. etc.

Because there's no reason you need to "catch up". In a lot of other games, the best gear is gated by the newest expansion and offers new zones that leaves previous ones dead. In ESO there are very few items gated by DLC, and those that are can be replaced by options available in the base game. I personally feel that the DLCs are pretty reasonably priced, and ESO offers the ESO+ subscription as a catch-up method if need be.

Elsonso

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

This is where Bethesda needs to sell retail ESO Plus and Crown cards for the platforms.

Twenty0zTsunami

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Twenty0zTsunami wrote: »

jakeedmundson wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed.

It absolutely does.... think of anything you've ever purchased. Supply and demand affects video games too.
Morrowind, for example, was $40 when it came out... it wasn't worth it to me so i dropped eso for about 8 months. I found it around x-mas time at Costco for 10 bucks. So here i am again until the next "chapter" comes out for another $40.

Does it? The entire reasont he content has value to you is because you have not experienced it. Just because you wait 3 years doesn't mean the value of the experience goes down for you lol

You're confusing personal value with hype/perceived value.
You really can't think of ONE thing you've bought and saw it 2 months later for a third of the price? This happens to EVERYTHING.

if that were a necessary principle you would have nothing to complain about ont he forums right now. You'd be paying 1/3 the price.

idk

Trensharo wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

If Sorc wasn't such an awful pet class and BGs weren't DLC content, this would make a lot more sense to me.

Subscription isn't an option for me. I'm sure it's great for some people, but I'm not subscribing. It's too restrictive and forces you to bleed cash on something you only want to play super a little at times, simply to retain access to it.

It made complete sense.

1. Sorcs have been a great pet class for over a year now. Your opinion on this matter is not supported by how the game actually plays.
2. BGs cannot be purchased with crowns, cold hard cash only. It makes total sense they are not part of the base game as there are a number of players that PvP only and have no need or desire to spend money on anything. It makes sense Zos put new PvP content behind a pay wall since it would be silly to do it for free.

Complaining about the small cost of playing this game seems more like entitlement. I want access but don't want to pay the small price tag. (BTW, there is a bundle of the early DLCs and some of them go on sale when their anniversary hits).

Trensharo

idk wrote: »

Trensharo wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

If Sorc wasn't such an awful pet class and BGs weren't DLC content, this would make a lot more sense to me.

Subscription isn't an option for me. I'm sure it's great for some people, but I'm not subscribing. It's too restrictive and forces you to bleed cash on something you only want to play super a little at times, simply to retain access to it.

It made complete sense.

1. Sorcs have been a great pet class for over a year now. Your opinion on this matter is not supported by how the game actually plays.
2. BGs cannot be purchased with crowns, cold hard cash only. It makes total sense they are not part of the base game as there are a number of players that PvP only and have no need or desire to spend money on anything. It makes sense Zos put new PvP content behind a pay wall since it would be silly to do it for free.

Complaining about the small cost of playing this game seems more like entitlement. I want access but don't want to pay the small price tag. (BTW, there is a bundle of the early DLCs and some of them go on sale when their anniversary hits).

$100 is not a small cost. It's just a game. It's not a passport application. There are others. I didn't come here to be convinced. I'm just voicing an opinion, which means it's not fact and therefore it's not debatable - nor do I expect anyone to agree with it.

You're free to hold opposing opinion. Enjoy it.

Fightingbros

Trensharo wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Trensharo wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

The content doesn't become less valuable just because time has passed. Also none of the content is required or needed to be purchased as one bulk group, simply by them as you want/need what they offer you.

If you own no DLC then as bellatrixed mentioned try an ESO+ subscription, it's worth a lot more for those who have never purchased a DLC.

You can also wait for the DLC sales that normally come during their anniversaries, although those are not confirmed events or sales. Stack on this buying crowns during a Crown Sale and you'll apply double discounts.

If Sorc wasn't such an awful pet class and BGs weren't DLC content, this would make a lot more sense to me.

Subscription isn't an option for me. I'm sure it's great for some people, but I'm not subscribing. It's too restrictive and forces you to bleed cash on something you only want to play super a little at times, simply to retain access to it.

It made complete sense.

1. Sorcs have been a great pet class for over a year now. Your opinion on this matter is not supported by how the game actually plays.
2. BGs cannot be purchased with crowns, cold hard cash only. It makes total sense they are not part of the base game as there are a number of players that PvP only and have no need or desire to spend money on anything. It makes sense Zos put new PvP content behind a pay wall since it would be silly to do it for free.

Complaining about the small cost of playing this game seems more like entitlement. I want access but don't want to pay the small price tag. (BTW, there is a bundle of the early DLCs and some of them go on sale when their anniversary hits).

$100 is not a small cost. It's just a game. It's not a passport application. There are others. I didn't come here to be convinced. I'm just voicing an opinion, which means it's not fact and therefore it's not debatable - nor do I expect anyone to agree with it.

You're free to hold opposing opinion. Enjoy it.

No, the 8 dollar download code at g2a is just a/the game. You want not just the game, but every possible expansion of the game as well.

I thought about it exactly like you; I didn't want to sub, because then it would cost me money every month instead of a fixed price. Right when I started playing, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild DLC were discounted to 500 crowns each. I decided to sub for 1 month and use the crowns to buy the 2 DLC packs, and use the month to also experience the other packs. Best decision I ever made.
I played through Orsinium and Clockwork city completely, and also did al the DLC dungeons. I tried some PVP which I hated.
Eventually my sub ended, and I have already completed Orsinium which I loved, and Clockwork which was OK. I have no need to purchase those right away, but would if they are discounted in the future. I have played the DLC dungeons and consider them to be not worth the crowns right now, and will only buy them at a discount.

So for just over 10 bucks I got a month of ESO plus, 2 DLC packs forever, finished the other 2 story DLCs and played the DLC dungeons. I know now that Orsinium is worth the crowns, the other packs are not. Either way, once another one is discounted, I will reconsider buying them, probably with crowns of a subscription that I will activate at that time.

So in short, I payed about 17 euros for the game + morrowind, 11 for DB and TG, and enough time to finish all others. Later I also payed 20 euros for Summerset. So in total I have spent 50 euros to experience everything, and still own the game, morrowind, summerset and DB and TG. Once once Orsinium and MAYBE the dungeons are discounted, I'll buy them too.

Mettaricana

Id say only the dlcs with trials are a need the rest are optional

JumpmanLane

Trensharo wrote: »

Azurya wrote: »

Trensharo wrote: »

Yea, I don't really like the lock-in aspect of a subscription, where I have to keep paying even if I only want to play the game 1 hour a week ;-) I try not to dedicate my time to just one game these days. Subscription is a bad deal, for me. I'd rather just purchase the content packs... But this pricing is a bit of an eye-popper. Going to pass for now and check if there is some sort of sale in the future.

It's just too much for me.

you don´t have to buy all at once
if you go eating in restaurant you don´t have to order the whole cart just to get your belly filled
buy what you need and a few months later you buy something else perhaps
it is up to you, your freedom to choose

If it's my choice to choose what DLC I buy, then it's my choice to choose what food I eat, and how much of the menu I buy.

I'd still react negatively if I looked at the menu and saw their Apple Pie costing $450. I'm not really commenting on how much I want to buy. I'm commenting on the cost of it. It seems a bit high, to me...

I think you're losing sight of the core issue/question/topic of the thread.

Why is my choice to buy all the DLC a problem? Buying it piece by piece doesn't make it any cheaper... It's still the same price. I just want to know why it's so bloody expensive when almost every other game I play lets you do a content access catch-up for $20-40.

I'm not going to invest in it if it's going to end up being a $110 content catch up when I can buy a WoW expansion for $50 that includes everything, or GW2 Path of Fire for $30, etc. etc.

DLC’s even chapters go on sale all the time. Even the chapters. Not really rant worthy.

Reminds me what those loan sharks said in some movie. “what do you mean you don’t got the money...it’s AMERICA. Go make it.” lol

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