Dont listen to the p2w whiners and ruin the Datamined Psyjic Skilline, like wardens

ascan7 · February 2018

It left me kinda disappointed that Psyjic will have active skills while Thieves' guild and Dark Brotherhood only have passive and almost non-combat related skills.

This is not a nerf Psyjic post, this is a buff thieves/assassins post! XD

red_emu · February 2018

I really really hope that it's not going to be introduced as a skill line accessible to just anyone. I mean, I get that it's immersion breaking already having a dragonknight cast mages guild spells etc but Psijics are meant to be something rare. It would make no sense for all the inhabitants of Tamriel to suddenly have the powers of the Psijic order! I personally think it makes more sense to have a new class based around it instead. I'm by no means an RP player, but immersion is something big in this game. Please don't break it!

Aliyavana · February 2018

red_emu wrote: »

I really really hope that it's not going to be introduced as a skill line accessible to just anyone. I mean, I get that it's immersion breaking already having a dragonknight cast mages guild spells etc but Psijics are meant to be something rare. It would make no sense for all the inhabitants of Tamriel to suddenly have the powers of the Psijic order! I personally think it makes more sense to have a new class based around it instead. I'm by no means an RP player, but immersion is something big in this game. Please don't break it!

Think of it as only one player is the vestige and not every other player is also the vestige, or a orc in a pink dress becoming emp etc, you need to suspend you disbelief

LordSemaj · February 2018

Coming Soon:

Time Stop - Works like Negate but for Stamina skills.

gabriebe · February 2018

I'd like a Psijic Dawnbreaker that has increased damage on the normies.

Rokushakubo · February 2018

If it's a new class or skill line (i think the latter), it's tough *** if you're not going to keep up with the game's development. People who don't want to get the DLCs are holding the game back.

neverwalk · February 2018

Spell-crafting is done, just need to find place to install into game.

Shad0wfire99 · February 2018

Comma

Bevik · February 2018

You all really think that they shouldn't release new contents with powerful/better sets, skill lines etc only because some people want everything for free?

You are playing an MMO for years, you only have to buy some DLCs you like instead of buying a lot of new games. Get real, they need numbers, we need new contents. It's a business after all, if you don't like it leave now.

I would love to see all what's coming, if all the datamining is real this game is going to the best way ever.

ak_pvp · February 2018

If this is spellcrafting. Which it may well be based on the skill treasure maps, then it would have to be base game since it could theoretically change everything. And locking such a massive thing out is going to be problematic at the least.

leothedino · February 2018

As much as I hate to say this (and after years of grinding for gear), in order to silence the pathetic P2W whining, they need to up the CP/item level on gear. Because then this new chapter will be like any of the others MMOs and their expansions, and simply 'the next step'. If you want to compete, buy it and upgrade.

The majority of MMO's out there do this, they sell expansions that raise the level, honestly, ESO is the exception. Other games release an expansion and you either buy it or fail to gain the new level/gear needed to compete at end game. The issue ZoS have is that they replied/voiced sympathy to the community on increased character and item level. Because of this, frankly, we now all feel self-entitled to stay top dogs with our gear, class and skills without progressing anymore.

SilverIce58 · February 2018

Personally, I really hope we get the Psijic outfit. My main would look so good in that! But it'd better be grey like the description states. (Psijics are called Greycloaks. Not yellowjackets...thanks skyrim).

monktoasty · February 2018

Rokushakubo wrote: »

If it's a new class or skill line (i think the latter), it's tough *** if you're not going to keep up with the game's development. People who don't want to get the DLCs are holding the game back.

It's double dipping..having a cash shop and pay to play. The cash shop should cover expenses and profit. Expansions should be free to all.

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2018

I remember when wardens were released, a year ago.
First whining wave was about it being the best class in the game, thus "P2W" !!
A couple of weeks later, the same people shouted everywhere that it was all a ripoff because wardens were good at everything and best at nothing.
People 1/ cry before testing and knowing and 2/ are never happy anyway.

Stinkyremy · February 2018

Now keep in mind this is a MMORPG, many of us pc players have already played mmos and understand that expansions will bring new abilities and tools to use

Yeah well many of us bought this game on release, with the promise that it will be a sub model with "no pay gates at all" yet here we are with P2W craft bag, P2W game changing classes and P2W become a master crafter in a few days....

SilverIce58 · February 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Now keep in mind this is a MMORPG, many of us pc players have already played mmos and understand that expansions will bring new abilities and tools to use

Yeah well many of us bought this game on release, with the promise that it will be a sub model with "no pay gates at all" yet here we are with P2W craft bag, P2W game changing classes and P2W become a master crafter in a few days....

None of that is P2W tho. P2W is buying vMA weapons from the crown store.

Stinkyremy · February 2018

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Now keep in mind this is a MMORPG, many of us pc players have already played mmos and understand that expansions will bring new abilities and tools to use

Yeah well many of us bought this game on release, with the promise that it will be a sub model with "no pay gates at all" yet here we are with P2W craft bag, P2W game changing classes and P2W become a master crafter in a few days....

None of that is P2W tho. P2W is buying vMA weapons from the crown store.

No, pay to win is being able to make, use and learn a class while everyone else has to just watch you use your skills not actually knowing what they do (without watching and reading external information) pay to win is being able to store unlimited amount of crafting materials that would fill up your bank, plus eso plus get double bank space, so with unlimited space, you can have vast amount of gear, and with limited mats you are at a disadvantage. Pay to win is becoming a master crafter, over a years dedication for all of us vets of the game, now being done with a few irl $$. master crafters can make some of the bst non trial gear in the game.
in this game, an mmo, progression is how you win.

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Having vMA weapons isn't "winning" most of those weapons are trash anyway and make little to no difference in ones ability in game. Plus any 250cp, or even less can storm through vMA with a little practice.

Ajaxduo · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Now keep in mind this is a MMORPG, many of us pc players have already played mmos and understand that expansions will bring new abilities and tools to use and if you want to use that tools you need to upgrade the game into the current expansion but atleast unlike wow and other mmos, a player isn't completely screwed and can play other parts of the game just fine.

Now if it comes in an expansion its not p2w its fair because everyone has access to it along with the vast amount of content it contains

The "problem" here is that ESO wasn't F2P game (actually IDK if it is now or not) from the beginning. Lots of ppl payed for the game, so they cannot screw them the way that they put something into expansions that will put these ppl into disadvantage.

Yes they can and they most likely will.

NyassaV · February 2018

This is how the Warden should have been done, as a skilline. That is where the P2W should have come from, not a stupid class

joaaocaampos · February 2018

Classes and skill lines are NEVER considered P2W. Warden and Psyjic can be OP as long as they do, it doesn't matter, it's not P2W.

Harrdarrzarr · February 2018

There's no point in putting the word SPOILER in the title, if the title itself also contains the actual spoiler..............

EvilCroc · February 2018

I would love new class, but just skill line is ok too,

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · February 2018

aliyavana wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Omg psijic class when??

Its not likely a class but likely a skilline because warden hasnt even been properly balanced but its next chapter, but if if the nerf p2w crowd gets their way the legendary psijic order the most powerful mages on nirn will be reduced to a skilline that is underwhelming

Maybe the p2w crown should get a job and stop relying on mommy and daddy to buy them everything

Hallothiel · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

With the number of guilds increasing, I think they should consider limiting number of guilds each char can be member of. From RP point of view, being in 6 guilds is nonsense.

No. Most do not RP. If you chose to RP, YOU can chose not to do a certain skill line.

Feric51 · February 2018

Stinkyremy wrote: »

Now keep in mind this is a MMORPG, many of us pc players have already played mmos and understand that expansions will bring new abilities and tools to use

Yeah well many of us bought this game on release, with the promise that it will be a sub model with "no pay gates at all" yet here we are with P2W craft bag, P2W game changing classes and P2W become a master crafter in a few days....

If you were happy with the sub model you had to begin with, guess what? There’s still a sub model out there (ESO+) that essentially fulfills their original promise.

This obviously does not include the chapter expansions, but what other mmo does not follow the same expansion format?

I hate to be that jerk that says this, but for each of you that complain because you feel it’s somehow p2w, there’s ten of us that understand Economics 101 and realize that if you want a new or upgraded product, you’re going to have to pay for it.

ecru · February 2018

You'd think people would be happy about new content.

Acrolas · February 2018

Did anybody say flying psijic pig pet?

Because somebody should have said flying psijic pig pet.

DoctorESO · February 2018

I wonder what skills this line will have. Sounds like a real balancing challenge since it will be available to all classes.

Tyralbin · February 2018

Umm would be bad if they had to eat p'roe to use their abilities hehe.

SilverIce58 · February 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

I wonder what skills this line will have. Sounds like a real balancing challenge since it will be available to all classes.

Hopefully mysticism magic in some way, shape, or form.