Opinions... most under-rated armor sets

FrancisCrawford · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

Night's Silence and Shadow dancer. For those of us who don't want to be a vampire and are not a nightblade, the ability to move fast in stealth is much more important in PvP than raw stats.

My PvE stamblade thief lives in Night's Silence and Night Terror. If he's headed to a tough fight he switches to Briarheart.

NIght Terror has appealing bonuses at both 3 and 5 pieces, depending on one's build. Definitely underrated IMO.

FrancisCrawford · February 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

The 5pc and 3pc set that reduce detection.

Mega EZ thieves+DB heists.

3 piece: Night Terror
5 piece: Night Mother's Embrace

If you're doing melee damage, Night Terror is better.

You could, in theory use both, although that would be a good choice only if you don't need the Night's Silence speed buff (i.e. if you're a vampire).

SilentRaven1972 · February 2018

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

Night's Silence and Shadow dancer. For those of us who don't want to be a vampire and are not a nightblade, the ability to move fast in stealth is much more important in PvP than raw stats.

My PvE stamblade thief lives in Night's Silence and Night Terror. If he's headed to a tough fight he switches to Briarheart.

NIght Terror has appealing bonuses at both 3 and 5 pieces, depending on one's build. Definitely underrated IMO.

I use those when I wanna be super sneaky on my NB's. Very handy!

phileunderx2 · February 2018

My thieves both are in nights silence and night terror. Works really well. My argonian healer is currently in spc and twilights embrace.

Joy_Division · February 2018

TarrNokk wrote: »

Wyrd Tree's Blessing Set

LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160

(2 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage.
(4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery
(5 items) Casting a spell has a 100% chance to remove 5 negative effect, this can occur every 15 seconds.

Nice for pvp

If only the rings weren't healthy

Everstorm · February 2018

LiquidPony wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Swamp Raider.

It's not as good in PvE as a pure damage set like Hunding's or Briarheart, but it's still pretty good. It procs on a much wider range of effects than the tooltip would lead you to believe, to the point where any stamina build can keep it procced close to 100% fairly easily.

And it can make for some nasty PvP builds. That's a big damage buff to Lethal Arrow, Poison Inject, Acid Spray, Spectral Bow, Killer's Blade, Incap, etc.

Combine swamp raider on a stamdk with morag tong - all of your poisons (even alchemical poisons, poison enchants, and monster set poison procs) deal 10% more damage, and you can use flames of oblivion for major savagery while slotted, it scales with highest stat (stamina/weapon damage in this case), and deals magic damage to keep swamp raider procced. Boosts venemous claw, noxious breath, corrosive armor, poison injection, acid spray, acid barrage, spawn of mephala, etc.

While Flames of Oblivion does indeed proc Swamp Raider, it's not necessary to proc it. Swamp Raider procs off of ... well, just about every proc set effect in the game as far as I can tell. Sunderflame, Viper, Red Mountain, Selene, Velidreth, Stormfist, Kra'gh, etc. It's up 90-100% on just about any stam build using a monster set.

Swampraider procs of other procs? Often look at that set wondering how to make it work... Gonna have to test that. If that's true the disription is really missleading.

FrancisCrawford · February 2018

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Jura23 wrote: »

Night's Silence and Shadow dancer. For those of us who don't want to be a vampire and are not a nightblade, the ability to move fast in stealth is much more important in PvP than raw stats.

Nightblade can only move fast in stealth with the magic morph of Veiled Strike (Concealed Weapon) and it’s damage output sucks. Don’t need people thinking Nightblade have passives that we don’t have.

Correct. A lot of stamblade builds rely on the Surprise Attack morph that stealthers can't take.

What's more, the Night's Silence/Vampire/whatever buff is still needed as well. It removes the speed penalty to sneak, while Concealed Weapon gives a speed bonus. Having both is the way to go.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2018

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Trainee Set.

Why not shacklebreaker + health glyphs instead of that?

Trainee + Shacklebreaker

xD

GreenhaloX · February 2018

Heavy armor for damage dealers, in general.

Emma_Overload · February 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruction mastery. Good balance of stats and a ton of magic with out losing too much of the other stats.

Destruction Mastery has a fatal flaw, however... Where are the staves for this set?

you are now guaranteed to get a set weapon for Healer's Habit, Destruction Mastery, Archer's Mind and Footman's Fortune from both normal and vet DSA, and they are "smart" drops, so you with never get a bow of Destruction Mastery or a ice staff of Archer's Mind, so they are really easy to get, i have a couple of inferno staffs and lightning staffs sitting in my inventory, even though i use the lightning Destructive Impact front bar/crushing wall on my sorc, the only toon i have the set on.

That's great news! I've been waiting years to get the destro staff for this set. Need the Healer's Habit resto, too.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · February 2018

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruction mastery. Good balance of stats and a ton of magic with out losing too much of the other stats.

Destruction Mastery has a fatal flaw, however... Where are the staves for this set?

you are now guaranteed to get a set weapon for Healer's Habit, Destruction Mastery, Archer's Mind and Footman's Fortune from both normal and vet DSA, and they are "smart" drops, so you with never get a bow of Destruction Mastery or a ice staff of Archer's Mind, so they are really easy to get, i have a couple of inferno staffs and lightning staffs sitting in my inventory, even though i use the lightning Destructive Impact front bar/crushing wall on my sorc, the only toon i have the set on.

That's great news! I've been waiting years to get the destro staff for this set. Need the Healer's Habit resto, too.

Yeah been like that for a couple of patches. Though not really sure why you would want a destruction mastery destro for, mind sharing?

lazerlaz · February 2018

Essence thief, awesome set, I love it, totally underated. Fantastic in no cp.

Sheer venom, I can't make a build without it anymore.

Way of the air. Best all around recovery and damage in a set. It's basically the sustain of eternal.hunt and the dps of hundings. I prefer it over senche.

Either way, all these sets are fun and effective.

generalmyrick · February 2018

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I ran a leeching plate + bahraha's curse + grothdar setup on a nightblade tank for a long time. Was absolutely amazing doing stuff like skyreach grinding with that setup.

I used sellestrix instead in PvP.

Someone hit me with an arrow...procced leech, which procced baharas which procced sellestrix....it was so cool.

Invincible · February 2018

Zenibreaker set

(2 items) reduces load screen times by 50%
(3 items) reduce ping by 900
(4 items) bans anyone who throws a mud ball at you while rping
(5 items) costs 15,000 crowns

WatchYourSixx · February 2018

Elf Bane on a Magicka DK increases the duration of burning, wall of elements, burning embers, engulfing flames, Eruption, meteor/standard, burning talons, flame clench/reach, and volcanic rune. Not to mention Zaan, Grothdarr, or the fire portion of illambris.

In total, there are 10 dots you can have active at once, all with a 2 second increase. Unfortunately it's heavy armor only and healthy Jewelry. But paired with bsw it's not too far behind in PVE and it can be deadly in pvp. Love me some dots..

Tasear · February 2018

Stendarr

Will make Hof easier or vcos final boss, or hof. Cleanses 5 negative effects allies every 30 secs.

Twlight remedy

More offensive top of line healer set that fell out of grace because of synergies. Increases minor force uptime, and protect allows with hots...(no deaths more dps). Especially great set for random dungeons.

All monster sets

These were buffed to do share passives with allies. With all posion and fire...I bet looks good on dks.

Tasear · February 2018

Sergykid wrote: »

essence thief

How so?

Tasear · February 2018

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Hircine's Veneer is the stamina healer set. Parallel to worm.

Tasear · February 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruction mastery. Good balance of stats and a ton of magic with out losing too much of the other stats.

Destruction Mastery has a fatal flaw, however... Where are the staves for this set?

you are now guaranteed to get a set weapon for Healer's Habit, Destruction Mastery, Archer's Mind and Footman's Fortune from both normal and vet DSA, and they are "smart" drops, so you with never get a bow of Destruction Mastery or a ice staff of Archer's Mind, so they are really easy to get, i have a couple of inferno staffs and lightning staffs sitting in my inventory, even though i use the lightning Destructive Impact front bar/crushing wall on my sorc, the only toon i have the set on.

That's great news! I've been waiting years to get the destro staff for this set. Need the Healer's Habit resto, too.

Yeah been like that for a couple of patches. Though not really sure why you would want a destruction mastery destro for, mind sharing?

Stacks well with nercoptance

Twenty0zTsunami · February 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Thunderbug. I wouldn't recommend it for all content, but it does some nice passive damage on a sorc tank.

was thinking about trying this set with overcharge set from tempest island for my lightning sorc

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · February 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Hircine's Veneer is the stamina healer set. Parallel to worm.

it really is not, i mean it is supposed to be but 12% regen is junk compared to cost reduction. average cost of mag skill in the game is around 3k, so 4% cost reduction is 120, equal to 240 regen, you would need a base regen of 2k to get functionally the same amount of regen. no one has that.

also what do you mean by this-

All monster sets

These were buffed to do share passives with allies. With all posion and fire...I bet looks good on dks.

Tasear · February 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Hircine's Veneer is the stamina healer set. Parallel to worm.

it really is not, i mean it is supposed to be but 12% regen is junk compared to cost reduction. average cost of mag skill in the game is around 3k, so 4% cost reduction is 120, equal to 240 regen, you would need a base regen of 2k to get functionally the same amount of regen. no one has that.

also what do you mean by this-

All monster sets

These were buffed to do share passives with allies. With all posion and fire...I bet looks good on dks.

Yeah probably needs a touch up, but that's what some people do use it for.

Yeah few patch ago, they gave all well pet sets a buff so they share passives, Like major mending, increase fire damage, reduced damage....etc.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · February 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Hircine's Veneer is the stamina healer set. Parallel to worm.

it really is not, i mean it is supposed to be but 12% regen is junk compared to cost reduction. average cost of mag skill in the game is around 3k, so 4% cost reduction is 120, equal to 240 regen, you would need a base regen of 2k to get functionally the same amount of regen. no one has that.

also what do you mean by this-

All monster sets

These were buffed to do share passives with allies. With all posion and fire...I bet looks good on dks.

Yeah probably needs a touch up, but that's what some people do use it for.

Yeah few patch ago, they gave all well pet sets a buff so they share passives, Like major mending, increase fire damage, reduced damage....etc.

All well pets sets? I mean I think I understand what you are saying but I don't think monster sets that summon pets are underrated, really the only one that is useful is maw of the infernal, out parses illambris on pet sorc builds. Not sure what "looks good on dks" means either.

Tasear · February 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Hircine's Veneer is the stamina healer set. Parallel to worm.

it really is not, i mean it is supposed to be but 12% regen is junk compared to cost reduction. average cost of mag skill in the game is around 3k, so 4% cost reduction is 120, equal to 240 regen, you would need a base regen of 2k to get functionally the same amount of regen. no one has that.

also what do you mean by this-

All monster sets

These were buffed to do share passives with allies. With all posion and fire...I bet looks good on dks.

Yeah probably needs a touch up, but that's what some people do use it for.

Yeah few patch ago, they gave all well pet sets a buff so they share passives, Like major mending, increase fire damage, reduced damage....etc.

All well pets sets? I mean I think I understand what you are saying but I don't think monster sets that summon pets are underrated, really the only one that is useful is maw of the infernal, out parses illambris on pet sorc builds. Not sure what "looks good on dks" means either.

Fine I guess I just never see them.

Maura_Neysa · February 2018

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

USTTech wrote: »

Well, the title kind of says it.
My opinion is Bahraha's Curse.
Yours?

Yep Bahraha's Curse is a good set but only for specific build.
For me that kind of a "underrated" set would be Hircine's Veneer.

btw. I would not be surprised if people would simply be "afraid" of saying that a certain set underrated / actuality good.
I remember personally when Seventh Legion was a niche, non - meta set. And what happened when it became more popular ? It was slightly nerfed...

Hircine's Veneer is the stamina healer set. Parallel to worm.

it really is not, i mean it is supposed to be but 12% regen is junk compared to cost reduction. average cost of mag skill in the game is around 3k, so 4% cost reduction is 120, equal to 240 regen, you would need a base regen of 2k to get functionally the same amount of regen. no one has that.

also what do you mean by this-

All monster sets

These were buffed to do share passives with allies. With all posion and fire...I bet looks good on dks.

Except the average cost of stamina skills is more like 2.5k, so 4% is 100. So you only need a Stamina Regen of 900 for 12% recovery to be better than 4% cost reduction.

Silver_Strider · February 2018

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Twilight's Embrace.

Because Sanctuary is a thing, TE gets no love but I just find this set to be criminally underrated as it's more offensive than Sanctuary could ever hope to be.

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Twilight's Embrace.

Because Sanctuary is a thing, TE gets no love but I just find this set to be criminally underrated as it's more offensive than Sanctuary could ever hope to be.

Because Healers really want that offensive, and DD don’t mind giving up a 5 piece for survivablity?

Ever seen a Sap Tank with 5 Heavy Twilight's Embrace + 5 Sanctuary? Even without CP, that is a whooping 34% healing received on the Tank alone. Prior to Morrowind when sustain wasn't a problem, I could just heal myself to full with just 2-3 Funnels and let the Healer fully DPS without needing to throw a single heal out themselves and the only times they would throw out a heal was to keep SPC procced on the group. I miss those days

NordSwordnBoard · February 2018

Combat Physician? I hear few positive things about it, and have almost enough to seamlessly switch it with worm cult in case of all stam 4 man pledge group. If anything, it should be longer in duration like empowered ward to make it more useful - on the other hand, in pvp it could add to a shield stack and... nah.

Thoughts? Anybody use it for vet dungeons and like it?

Vaughndaunted · February 2018

Is scathing mage still a thing? I’m using it on my magic warden with mechanical acuity and a perfected inferno staff.

WrathOfInnos · February 2018

Mothers Sorrow. Combines well with Julianos for 5-5-1, especially on Sorc, Nightblade and Templar. Better crit set than mechanical acuity if used on both bars and over 50% spell crit without the set's bonuses (Acuity wins for a single bar set or for a low base crit build).

jaws343 · February 2018

WatchYourSixx wrote: »

Elf Bane on a Magicka DK increases the duration of burning, wall of elements, burning embers, engulfing flames, Eruption, meteor/standard, burning talons, flame clench/reach, and volcanic rune. Not to mention Zaan, Grothdarr, or the fire portion of illambris.

In total, there are 10 dots you can have active at once, all with a 2 second increase. Unfortunately it's heavy armor only and healthy Jewelry. But paired with bsw it's not too far behind in PVE and it can be deadly in pvp. Love me some dots..

Plus the 3 and 4 piece of Elfs Bane are spell damage increases. I actually run 4 piece Elfs Bane and 5 piece seducer on my MadDK in PVP, 5 heavy 2 light, 2 fire staves. The health from the Elf Bane Jewelry is extremely helpful. Once Dragon Bones hits Xbox I will probably switch back to sword and board to get the 5 piece active again. Especially with the AOE cap gone.

An interesting set combination that I liked was Way of Fire and Night Terror. Ran both on a Stam DK with Chudan. Whenever I took damage I dealt poison damage. And every 2-3 seconds I was proccing the Fire set off weapon attacks. It was pretty fun, and the DK passives boosts damage for fire and poison, but it was very cheesy.