[PC NA] Why can't AD win?

TBois · February 2018

Yay!!!! We did it!!!

WaltherCarraway · February 2018

enzoisadog wrote: »

i spam snipe

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LOL

Elong · February 2018

I think EP should focus on winning a camp instead of lecturing AD to be honest.

Ghostbane · February 2018

zyk · February 2018

ty @ZOS_BrianWheeler for finally solving this important issue.

leeux · February 2018

"the only way to win is not to fight" Seems to be apply to the current situation quite well

Still, I wonder what triggered this issue... I wasn't on Cyrodiil these last two nights, but the days prior to that I was in there and there seemed not be any issues present... it's strange that an issue like this would manifest this late after the patch was applied.

Perhaps is related to the campaign reset, somehow :thinking:

VaranisArano · February 2018

Elong wrote: »

I think EP should focus on winning a camp instead of lecturing AD to be honest.

Maybe now that the new campaign has started, sure.

Peekachu99 · February 2018

You’re winning now that Vivec is utterly broken. Count your blessings? Also, a lot of lone wolf gankers in AD (I know, my NB is one and the only toon of mine in that alliance)—not the most group-friendly crowd. You can also get an insta invite to EP or DC just by typing x or lfg in zone chat. On AD...crickets.

vamp_emily · February 2018

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

antihero727 · February 2018

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

Lol, The only thing DC is strong at anymore is having the highest Q to get into Vivec. I hope your RP is going well.

VaranisArano · February 2018

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

Currently the dominating force, sure, I'll allow that. However, I'm not terribly impressed with your example. Every alliance deals with zerg fights on both fronts - it just happens at different times. I mean, I could start bragging about EP holding off 20v50 odds at Chalman and BRK, and say exactly the same thing you are.

HaroniNDeorum · February 2018

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

1. DC is the ZERGIEST alliance.
2. Overall DC faction stack and pvdoor everything on map.
3. Zerg fight on one front. Like 120 vs 50 at ales or 120 v 40 at ash.

Thats it. I think your post was missing a little of reality. Oooh wait... Real warriors? Most people here will tell you there is no good dc guilds right now since Ve disbanded and AD has much better guilds but we play less days/week.

Elite training? On what? Horse raiding and siege simulator?

VaranisArano · February 2018

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

1. DC is the ZERGIEST alliance.
2. Overall DC faction stack and pvdoor everything on map.
3. Zerg fight on one front. Like 120 vs 50 at ales or 120 v 40 at ash.

Thats it. I think your post was missing a little of reality. Oooh wait... Real warriors? Most people here will tell you there is no good dc guilds right now since Ve disbanded and AD has much better guilds but we play less days/week.

Elite training? On what? Horse raiding and siege simulator?

Hey, now. Everyone knows DC doesn't zerg. Those are all 4-man small groups...who are all at the same place at the same time for purely tactical reasons.

Anyway, we've gotten a bit off-topic. As far as we know, the current Queue bug isn't AD's fault. I won't pretend that EP wouldn't have zerged the map if we found ourselves the beneficiaries of that either. Furthermore, AD's gotten themselves out fo early leads before and still managed to lose the campaign. So most of this has very little bearing on the original question: "Why can't AD win?"

HaroniNDeorum · February 2018

It was just a chain of events that makes Ad dominate during this zos issue queue.

The initial detonation was frustration, all 3 factions waiting long queues when they dont deserve it. Then, Ad pushed and got emperorship which made some population from other factions log off as usual and Ad pop trying to get into cyro. Finally with the 3 faction pop "stuck" the Ad one was the stronger and show started. This could happen to anyone as you say @VaranisArano

jaime1982 · February 2018

I usually see TKG @ 6am US central time, I like how you boast about fighting 2x your numbers.

maxjapank · February 2018

jaime1982 wrote: »

I usually see TKG @ 6am US central time, I like how you boast about fighting 2x your numbers.

Thank you. To be honest, I’ve always preferred not to talk about any specific guild, even my own. But unfortunately, someone decided to slander our guild in this thread. Your welcome to watch us fight live on Twitch stream. Join the chat or listen to us making fun of each other.

Telel · February 2018

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

Elong · February 2018

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

You're not polite though Telel, no matter how much you RP, it doesn't make it so, I've watched your foul mouthed, tin foil hat covered streams

chaz · February 2018

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

Hahahahaha, WOW. Those are really good videos you've uploaded. Oh hey, wait wait wait wait wait, this is the first time I have heard myself been called "Team Purple", that is so FKN funny, no really I'm having a blast.

Ok, so I'm DC. Have been for years. The past 2 years it was only that I decided to start chatting with them. No seriosly, the chat window, it has a little arrow on the bottom left and if I click it, the chat window goes off screen. So anyway.....

Yeah I used to group with a few groups. I think 5 until 3 died out, the last 2 groups I used to hang with I actually left. The first group I left was because the guy running it and some of his crew (I would say our) are very disrespectful. I was doing some PvE stuff and I get this whisper from his to join the group in PvP, so I did, then I got into discord so I can hear what Crown was going to say and all of a sudden it got quiet.

I thought ok a glitch, I went back into discord and went back into the channel where they were. Well it happened 4 times until I figured out they were talking smack about another group. (((Yeah, if you or anyone don't know by now DC is VERY SALTY at the drop of a dime))) so, I was really really offended that they all assumed I gave a rats pink hole what they were talking about , in regards of this other guild group in PvP. So I said since your going to assume that and disrespect me like that, I'm done.

By the way I also helped that other group because I'm in there a lot.

Anyway after quitting that guild I had one left. In which I decided to leave that guild as well. It was the little things that added up like if I was dead and I needed someone to rez me so I can take revenge, I would whisper them asking politely to say in zone chat "PLZ rez someone on Glade Farm" , I asked this to 4 of those people and 3 of them took the time to whisper me back saying it was a waste of time to do all that when they're busy and they're a """Casual""" group. So all the time those 3 of 4 people that took the time to write a wall of text couldn't just say in zone chat rez me ?

It really irk'd me beyond belief and pushed me over the edge. The other things that helped push me, well this particular group cheats. They will take anyone to the smaller campaign and make them emp. Most people today the top 5 people today in all factions do this, they go somewhere quiet and one person will kill their friends over and over to grind AP to get millions of points to be top 10. However, that said, the day these people betrayed my friendship was a day they also took an less than average player and made him Emperor. It also backfired on them because once he was made emp, he went crazy and started stalking and harassing members of that guild.

So I left them and went solo.

Ever since, being solo I can make a couple of million AP by myself and get at least purple rewards at the end of a campaign. Which really stinks because I did make drastically a lot more when I did group with others. However due to the cheat grinding of AP I never made it less than 10 on the leader boards. I made 14. That was the lowest number I have ever made.

That said, watching you're video was very entertaining and eye opening. In fact I have a greater respect now for most players.

We call you and EP ""Team Orange"". LOL, which is so damn funny. And some will even zone chat about what team or guild is at what location. We as DC come across quite a few interesting things. Cheaters for one , especially EP. They make these DK and SORCs nigh immortal. When you throw damage at them it's always in parenthesis ((1500)) and their shields seem to last forever. In fact in we don't urge 10 , at least 10 people to go after that one, that one ep will crush most of us. And it's sickening. So sicking you have no idea what kind of face to face conversation I would love to have with zenimax employees. Because they are the ones that game 2 specific races more power over all the others.

So, lets talk ZERG.

When I play now, I don't what you see. I see ZERGS all the time. But it has always been EP. 50, 60, 70 people, so many damn ep that my game slows, or crashes where I get kicked from the server. Now only recently , these past few days I have noticed ZERGS by AD. And I'm thinking to myself, WOW! That's unusual. Never seen that before. And being solo, and Oh by the way, I'm probably thee most hated DC in Cyrodiil. Because I call it as it is. DC are afraid to fight, DC are too dumb to place a forward camp up so we can take more keeps,. DC will annoyingly sit there looking pretty in a group of 20 people, only 4 or 5 of us actually place siege. I sometimes will place 5 siege and tell them to hop on. Know what happens? The siege machine falls apart and gets watsed. 15 minutes later when the door is open or the wall is down, I will yell out, "PUSH!!!", and what do they do? Hahahaaa.

No man, we in DC may be very good. And I truely believe we win a lot, but only out of pure dumb luck. Seriosuly. PURE.....DUMB.....LUCK! No more, no less. So now, I just play as I go. If I stumble across a group I will help out. Otherwise being solo I don't have to put up with salt. I have killed thousands of players and I'm sure a the same took their revenge. I don't mind if I die, it's only a game. But to die in a stupid way, like a group not doing it right? That's a bit more fun draining.

I have 5 DC toons, all classes. I use the crown store perk any race/alliance and have never ((NEVER)) betrayed my Banner. I'm not loyal to the players, I just like the color blue, and the nifty looking animal we have on our Banner. I say all these things because I think all 3 alliances have their own problems to which some are not as unique as they think. I would not mind being part of a group, and natuarally becoming EMP, but now and as for years that people know how to cheat to get emp, to me in my opinion made Zenimax's Emperor title award a useless POS trash icon now that's not worth having on your account. If these guilds were cheat grinding their friends to become emp in the 30 day campaign, since I made 14 on the leader board once, that was probabaly the time I would have made emp the normal way. Fairly. But this is after all a zenimax game. And ZoS is becoming quite infamous and or synonymous. Because thats all I hear now in zone. Zos this, zos that, Ep zerg this, AD ganker cheat that.

I have about a week to go. The last day of February I'll more than likely not be here anymore so nothing to me matters. I'm just saying that in DC we learned what to do in order to win or beat a zerg of just about any size, it's just geting the people together to agree on one tactic in the thing compared to pulling teeth. For real, like today I killed 5 of these group that DC keeps screaming about in fear. When I said in chat I killed 5 of them, not only did they not believe me, but became very disrespectful and salty about it. So the grass isn't greener on the other side, it's just another shade of grey.

Ixtyr · February 2018

chaz wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

Hahahahaha, WOW. Those are really good videos you've uploaded. Oh hey, wait wait wait wait wait, this is the first time I have heard myself been called "Team Purple", that is so FKN funny, no really I'm having a blast.

Ok, so I'm DC. Have been for years. The past 2 years it was only that I decided to start chatting with them. No seriosly, the chat window, it has a little arrow on the bottom left and if I click it, the chat window goes off screen. So anyway.....

Yeah I used to group with a few groups. I think 5 until 3 died out, the last 2 groups I used to hang with I actually left. The first group I left was because the guy running it and some of his crew (I would say our) are very disrespectful. I was doing some PvE stuff and I get this whisper from his to join the group in PvP, so I did, then I got into discord so I can hear what Crown was going to say and all of a sudden it got quiet.

I thought ok a glitch, I went back into discord and went back into the channel where they were. Well it happened 4 times until I figured out they were talking smack about another group. (((Yeah, if you or anyone don't know by now DC is VERY SALTY at the drop of a dime))) so, I was really really offended that they all assumed I gave a rats pink hole what they were talking about , in regards of this other guild group in PvP. So I said since your going to assume that and disrespect me like that, I'm done.

By the way I also helped that other group because I'm in there a lot.

Anyway after quitting that guild I had one left. In which I decided to leave that guild as well. It was the little things that added up like if I was dead and I needed someone to rez me so I can take revenge, I would whisper them asking politely to say in zone chat "PLZ rez someone on Glade Farm" , I asked this to 4 of those people and 3 of them took the time to whisper me back saying it was a waste of time to do all that when they're busy and they're a """Casual""" group. So all the time those 3 of 4 people that took the time to write a wall of text couldn't just say in zone chat rez me ?

It really irk'd me beyond belief and pushed me over the edge. The other things that helped push me, well this particular group cheats. They will take anyone to the smaller campaign and make them emp. Most people today the top 5 people today in all factions do this, they go somewhere quiet and one person will kill their friends over and over to grind AP to get millions of points to be top 10. However, that said, the day these people betrayed my friendship was a day they also took an less than average player and made him Emperor. It also backfired on them because once he was made emp, he went crazy and started stalking and harassing members of that guild.

So I left them and went solo.

Ever since, being solo I can make a couple of million AP by myself and get at least purple rewards at the end of a campaign. Which really stinks because I did make drastically a lot more when I did group with others. However due to the cheat grinding of AP I never made it less than 10 on the leader boards. I made 14. That was the lowest number I have ever made.

That said, watching you're video was very entertaining and eye opening. In fact I have a greater respect now for most players.

We call you and EP ""Team Orange"". LOL, which is so damn funny. And some will even zone chat about what team or guild is at what location. We as DC come across quite a few interesting things. Cheaters for one , especially EP. They make these DK and SORCs nigh immortal. When you throw damage at them it's always in parenthesis ((1500)) and their shields seem to last forever. In fact in we don't urge 10 , at least 10 people to go after that one, that one ep will crush most of us. And it's sickening. So sicking you have no idea what kind of face to face conversation I would love to have with zenimax employees. Because they are the ones that game 2 specific races more power over all the others.

So, lets talk ZERG.

When I play now, I don't what you see. I see ZERGS all the time. But it has always been EP. 50, 60, 70 people, so many damn ep that my game slows, or crashes where I get kicked from the server. Now only recently , these past few days I have noticed ZERGS by AD. And I'm thinking to myself, WOW! That's unusual. Never seen that before. And being solo, and Oh by the way, I'm probably thee most hated DC in Cyrodiil. Because I call it as it is. DC are afraid to fight, DC are too dumb to place a forward camp up so we can take more keeps,. DC will annoyingly sit there looking pretty in a group of 20 people, only 4 or 5 of us actually place siege. I sometimes will place 5 siege and tell them to hop on. Know what happens? The siege machine falls apart and gets watsed. 15 minutes later when the door is open or the wall is down, I will yell out, "PUSH!!!", and what do they do? Hahahaaa.

No man, we in DC may be very good. And I truely believe we win a lot, but only out of pure dumb luck. Seriosuly. PURE.....DUMB.....LUCK! No more, no less. So now, I just play as I go. If I stumble across a group I will help out. Otherwise being solo I don't have to put up with salt. I have killed thousands of players and I'm sure a the same took their revenge. I don't mind if I die, it's only a game. But to die in a stupid way, like a group not doing it right? That's a bit more fun draining.

I have 5 DC toons, all classes. I use the crown store perk any race/alliance and have never ((NEVER)) betrayed my Banner. I'm not loyal to the players, I just like the color blue, and the nifty looking animal we have on our Banner. I say all these things because I think all 3 alliances have their own problems to which some are not as unique as they think. I would not mind being part of a group, and natuarally becoming EMP, but now and as for years that people know how to cheat to get emp, to me in my opinion made Zenimax's Emperor title award a useless POS trash icon now that's not worth having on your account. If these guilds were cheat grinding their friends to become emp in the 30 day campaign, since I made 14 on the leader board once, that was probabaly the time I would have made emp the normal way. Fairly. But this is after all a zenimax game. And ZoS is becoming quite infamous and or synonymous. Because thats all I hear now in zone. Zos this, zos that, Ep zerg this, AD ganker cheat that.

I have about a week to go. The last day of February I'll more than likely not be here anymore so nothing to me matters. I'm just saying that in DC we learned what to do in order to win or beat a zerg of just about any size, it's just geting the people together to agree on one tactic in the thing compared to pulling teeth. For real, like today I killed 5 of these group that DC keeps screaming about in fear. When I said in chat I killed 5 of them, not only did they not believe me, but became very disrespectful and salty about it. So the grass isn't greener on the other side, it's just another shade of grey.

Tell us how you really feel, though.

Telel · February 2018

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

You're not polite though Telel, no matter how much you RP, it doesn't make it so, I've watched your foul mouthed, tin foil hat covered streams

This one's language is of an ancient dialect known as urpointm8. Sadly there are some elfish types with exceedingly fragile skins which apparently find even minor abrasions life threatening. This one feels sad for such people as even an attempt at post potty break hygiene must require a most delicate touch.

AS for their hat...it's not made of tin foil. After all, it is not real.

Also it is worn by a talking cat on the internets. Which is even more not real. Except in the mind of certain silly people.

PS: stream spying on a terrible player makes you a double super sissy. Getting mad at the same time makes you a super elfhurt chicken elf double super sissy.

PPS: Or at least that is what a less polite khajiit might say to those who have to resort to such methods. Fortunately Telel provides everyone with the exact amount of etiquette they deserve.

PPPS:

Elong · February 2018

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

You're not polite though Telel, no matter how much you RP, it doesn't make it so, I've watched your foul mouthed, tin foil hat covered streams

This one's language is of an ancient dialect known as urpointm8. Sadly there are some elfish types with exceedingly fragile skins which apparently find even minor abrasions life threatening. This one feels sad for such people as even an attempt at post potty break hygiene must require a most delicate touch.

AS for their hat...it's not made of tin foil. After all, it is not real.

Also it is worn by a talking cat on the internets. Which is even more not real. Except in the mind of certain silly people.

PS: stream spying on a terrible player makes you a double super sissy. Getting mad at the same time makes you a super elfhurt chicken elf double super sissy.

PPS: Or at least that is what a less polite khajiit might say to those who have to resort to such methods. Fortunately Telel provides everyone with the exact amount of etiquette they deserve.

Well, I don't think checking out random ESO twitch streams constitutes as spying, you stream for a reason, for people to watch, and when they do they're "spying"? Hahaha ok

Without taking this off topic any further, I'll just add that you can't play the "woe is me" card whilst abusing everyone left right and centre in your streams.

Rohamad_Ali · February 2018

this thread .... lol

Telel · February 2018

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

You're not polite though Telel, no matter how much you RP, it doesn't make it so, I've watched your foul mouthed, tin foil hat covered streams

This one's language is of an ancient dialect known as urpointm8. Sadly there are some elfish types with exceedingly fragile skins which apparently find even minor abrasions life threatening. This one feels sad for such people as even an attempt at post potty break hygiene must require a most delicate touch.

AS for their hat...it's not made of tin foil. After all, it is not real.

Also it is worn by a talking cat on the internets. Which is even more not real. Except in the mind of certain silly people.

PS: stream spying on a terrible player makes you a double super sissy. Getting mad at the same time makes you a super elfhurt chicken elf double super sissy.

PPS: Or at least that is what a less polite khajiit might say to those who have to resort to such methods. Fortunately Telel provides everyone with the exact amount of etiquette they deserve.

Well, I don't think checking out random ESO twitch streams constitutes as spying, you stream for a reason, for people to watch, and when they do they're "spying"? Hahaha ok

Without taking this off topic any further, I'll just add that you can't play the "woe is me" card whilst abusing everyone left right and centre in your streams.

This one never said anyone in particular was doing anything now did they? After all that would be most impolite of this one. Not to mention trollish. And khajiit would never troll sensitive souls by purposely mocking silly things. No, definitely they would not do such things to the undeserving.

However if people with ponty ears and or a guilty conscience want to use a khajiit's voice to inspire themselves then Khajiit will not stop them. They just wish Telel did not feature in unpaid appearances in the fantasies people have of them.

Paid appearances on the other hand...

Oh and this one is not Woe. They are Telel. Woe is some ganker on the griff side of the map and is not even khajiit.

Slick_007 · February 2018

vamp_emily wrote: »

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

you dont have girly fights on bridges huh? like the half dozen DC on the alessia bridge farming AP as EP and AD went at each other? real warriors huh? lol.

Rohamad_Ali · February 2018

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Elong wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

The only time AD performs well is when they have 100 players on and the other alliances are not in PvP.

I know many AD/EP will disagree with me but I speak the truth. DC on PC NA is the dominating alliance. Yes, DC does have some issues, such as poor leaders that don't know what 'UA" means, but overall DC is the strongest alliance.

We don't have lil girly fights at bridges, we have zerg fights on both fronts. Like 20v50 at ales and 20v50 at ash all the time. I went from zero to hero playing on DC. So if AD wants to learn how to be real warriors they need to play on DC side for some elite training.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnKKQIe8ub8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6bcw0VguM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz4pQQzEk4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7suOkTM0Oo&t=376s

PS: Telel is an incredibly inept player according to the 'super l33t' elfish types who sit on bridges or in towers all day. Which has interesting implications for the derpnzerg coverband. Implications that a polite khajiit would never come out and say in an impolite manner.

You're not polite though Telel, no matter how much you RP, it doesn't make it so, I've watched your foul mouthed, tin foil hat covered streams

This one's language is of an ancient dialect known as urpointm8. Sadly there are some elfish types with exceedingly fragile skins which apparently find even minor abrasions life threatening. This one feels sad for such people as even an attempt at post potty break hygiene must require a most delicate touch.

AS for their hat...it's not made of tin foil. After all, it is not real.

Also it is worn by a talking cat on the internets. Which is even more not real. Except in the mind of certain silly people.

PS: stream spying on a terrible player makes you a double super sissy. Getting mad at the same time makes you a super elfhurt chicken elf double super sissy.

PPS: Or at least that is what a less polite khajiit might say to those who have to resort to such methods. Fortunately Telel provides everyone with the exact amount of etiquette they deserve.

Well, I don't think checking out random ESO twitch streams constitutes as spying, you stream for a reason, for people to watch, and when they do they're "spying"? Hahaha ok

Without taking this off topic any further, I'll just add that you can't play the "woe is me" card whilst abusing everyone left right and centre in your streams.

This one never said anyone in particular was doing anything now did they? After all that would be most impolite of this one. Not to mention trollish. And khajiit would never troll sensitive souls by purposely mocking silly things. No, definitely they would not do such things to the undeserving.

However if people with ponty ears and or a guilty conscience want to use a khajiit's voice to inspire themselves then Khajiit will not stop them. They just wish Telel did not feature in unpaid appearances in the fantasies people have of them.

Paid appearances on the other hand...

Oh and this one is not Woe. They are Telel. Woe is some ganker on the griff side of the map and is not even khajiit.

@Telel You do not have or even need to explain yourself to the forums ever . You have been actively training new AD players and helping old since launch and with hundreds of good results . This thread is just a troll post . We know very well AD has been able to win in the past and still has very good guilds in its faction . Problem being so many have left because of the numerous ongoing issues in pvp . So many people left . Many of Us fight hard and do well , it is just there is not enough leaders anymore , just complainers . Your video of Nikel defense was awesome and the best out of all to me because your team should of lost a dozen times to those DC numbers but did not lose once . Just stating what you probably already know but wanted to highlight the propaganda is not taken seriously by any old players . Some new players maybe or DC players that do not remember when they were in this pinch for leaders back in Thornblade days and Azura's Bow . They seem to forget what it is like now they living on the gravy train of players . It's all really just comical because back then there would be a whine post twice a day by them . Especially mad at EP all the time lol .

IZZEFlameLash · February 2018

Sacredx wrote: »

Soul_Demon wrote: »

Edit for: "First of all YOU don't make the rules. You are not god who decides what can and can't be done. Stop acting like one. People can do whetever they want in the game as long as they abide by the rules. Gank, smallscale, zerg, organised raids, take keeps, don't take keeps, 1vx, xv1. You can do whatever you want."

No, I am a poster who has responded to a question.....whereas you have forgotten that and are reaching for some way to salvage a poorly thought out 'counter' to an opinion you disagree with. You need to settle down and focus.

I did not mean any disrespect so I will backup my arguments more accurately for you.

Soul_Demon wrote: »

Guilds like TKG on AD actually play for DC- guessing that is a major problem for your faction actually winning any camps. Large, present guilds that don't actually play for you faction will inevitably fail to push for the win if their loyalties lay elsewhere. Matter of fact, just this am TKG is handing over scrolls from EP to DC when they are doing their daily PvDoor on Vivec. If you were unaware of this daily routine, you might want to speak to them about the "strategy" they are employing by "assisting" DC with keep holds from EP and "handing" over scrolls to them.....personally I see no strategic value in what they do, but to empower DC's point spread on a daily basis. But, never know....maybe they are simply unaware that is the effect of helping DC protect keeps and turning over EP scrolls to DC when they are the only ones on in force. Guess asking them would be a good start.

False. Your words are just speculation. Do not pretend that you know facts. You are not associated with TKG and don't know the reasons behind their decision making. I do. So I will tell you the real truth. Firstly TKG is a loyal guild to AD. We do not support keep trading, scroll trading or any similar thing of any kind. We do not support any sort of exploit or cheating of any kind. We play to have fun and challenge ourselves and others to the limit. To achieve a level of challenge we undertake measured steps to bring the challenge to us. Be that taking a keep or a scroll and holding it. Regarding scrolls, we either bring them to an AD keep ourselves or drop them off for another AD group to take them. We certainly do not do any trades with other factions of any kind.

And to clear up and misconceptions regarding the faction swap. We use to be on DC. We swapped to AD because DC was over populated and lacked any sort of challenge. Meanwhile AD was struggling and had limited support.

Soul_Demon wrote: »

a large consistently playing guild who doesn't strategically play for their faction, but attacking "whoever is high pop" without regard to score opportunity or consideration of what faction leads camp will greatly lower the chance for your faction to win any camps.

False. For oceanic players logging in at the start of the night the map is usually covered in blue or a mix of blue and red with yellow having just the base keeps give or take. At the end of the night TKG actively raids the map looks mostly yellow. We even get emp every few days with the help of the rest of the faction pushing with us. If you login and play during our time you will see this happening on a consistent basis.

Soul_Demon wrote: »

My assessment stands- when you take up space in an alliance and DONT play to win or manage the map you are dead weight players and don't add to the overall effort. Players and guilds who do this waste the pop cap of that faction by showing up making excuses about why they don't support the war effort and camp win, as you just did.

False. There is no such thing as "play to win or manage the map" That's no way to play the game or have any sort of enjoyment. We play to have fun and do what fits on the given day, which ends up helping the faction. Major organised guilds are the backbone of any faction. A. They initiate key objectives such as keep takes that would otherwise be not possible with pugs. B. They are able to take on greater numbers, usually 2x+ their own. This means that the efficiency per player is increased which allows for easier pug pushed while the opposition is busy with an organised guild. C. They bring a sense of purpose to the game. A challenge. Who wants to have just skirmishes back and forth all day. It gets old quickly. There are others but this is enough. I challenge you do outline key items why you think this is not the case.

Soul_Demon wrote: »

As with any assumption not only are you wrong, but spectacularly so. I responded to a question with my comments and back them up with observations of said guild over the last year or so. You on the other hand you come in spewing insults and then confirmed what I observed and proceed to tell me now that I should pay attention to thee posters- because as we all know if you have your guild post in forums it becomes fact. No.

Next you will have one of them start "best guilds NA" thread and they will all come in under forum alts to post of the greatness of the guild, because no one ever sees through that one. Right.

To reiterate TKG are not some "best guild". We do not boast about our skill. We simply enjoy the game and play to the best of our ability. You say you have observed the guild over the last year. Well so has most of the oceanic player base. TKG is widely known. That does not give the right to turn observations into speculation and go and make false statements. I am not writing this to make a "TKG presence", I am writing this to show that TKG has dedicated players who are loyal to their faction and who support the faction whenever we play. I am a core member and run with the raid most nights. What you see here are facts and a true representation of the guild.

edited spelling.

I agree with this assessment about the map. I usually log in after work and then see Cyrodiil looks EP and DC with AD usually down to last keep or already lost scrolls and getting farmed at the worst. It is only after TKG and RAM raid does the map look much more balanced (slight AD upper hand because Ash and BRK usually but never really any further than that). Afterwards, it is rather fun push back and forth around those areas between DC and EP from Roe and Alessia to Ash and BRK.

Lol real warrior comment tho. I dunno. What am I seeing if those aren't 50+ DC swarming Nikel and Roe almost every time?

chaz · February 2018

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

this thread .... lol

Too true. The original poster even tried to get into a peeing contest with me by assuming I was a spai? ? ?

Francois, please translate for me: Je ne suis pas un espion.

But missed the point entirely and didn't even truly read my post. Had he, he would of noticed I said right at the beginning "This is the first time I have heard myself been called team purple" Second, I don't watch twitch, and as for youtube I seldomly go there to see what cookie cutter trash build someone links me to in order to see why we have 2 classes in game that ZOS lost their damned minds in giving them GOD powers over all the other classes.

Next, the original poster that bashed my reply went on bypassing the fact that I don't zerg group nor do I zerg surf. As mentioned when I said """I solo""" and , """I quit 2 guilds because the first was a very disrespectful guild, and the other guild that claimed to be a casual group were uncaring cheaters that make any wanna be nobody EMP""".

So, in ending the OP "Tele" with his mouth in those videos missed the point entirely as I was actually paying compliment. Second, I was also advising that I know for a fact DC is a very salty chat environment, DC itself is filled with a lot of cowards, a lot of uncoordinated groups, guild groups that stab one another in the back all the time, DC is filled with people that don't know how to lay siege which allows the other factions to rally quickly to destroy us as we try and take their outposts and keeps. And surprisingly the only reason why we win a lot is due to pure luck.

So the OP can say what he wishes to. I just go into PvP to kill crap. I also became a ganker hunter so I purposely go and travel to known kill spots that we know gankers love to hide. And I kill many of them. I have become good at what I do, and I will help other DC gankers take out immortal tanks.It gets very boring in cyrodiil as sometimes I just travel around not killing anything because no one is around. And when I do find someone it's now usually a big big EP zerg. Or now a twice as big zerg by AD. In fact last night I actually quit playing because not only was I tired of the EP zerg, but the AD zerg basically got too big and I was tired of getting burned by them.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH wait I must be a liar? Hmmmmm, OK. I will submit proof, look at the bottom right hand part of this screen shot, I got so tired of AD zergs I burst right in and killed one of their friends while they we're ZERGING us. Here's proof:

https://imgur.com/a/wP0FE

So if AD want to complain about DC zerging, they too are at fault and also do it. Like I said, the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. EP always makes good zergs, I have never seen AD do it, until now and I'm getting sick of it. And why? I had already explained this to you. DC is a very salty chat environment, DC guild groups backstab their own Alliance brothers and sisters. More and More DC are beoming like me, SOLO. So look at that photo again, and tell me WHY I SHOULD PLAY THIS GAME as a solo player against one ZERG After another?

Telel · February 2018

Well the good news is that we can all agree that so many of the bloops are cowards.

Also bowtatoes are silly, and bridge fighters should go back to playing Halo 2 against their grandmother.

Tetrafy · February 2018

Telel wrote: »

Well the good news is that we can all agree that so many of the bloops are cowards.

Also bowtatoes are silly, and bridge fighters should go back to playing Halo 2 against their grandmother.

Wait what if Im a brotatoe using defile on my bow and enjoy Halo 2?