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Dawnbreaker of Smiting or Flawless Dawnbreaker
Chelister
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1) Dawnbreaker of Smiting
deals more instant damage + more dot damage = overall higher damage
also knocks enemies down for 1.8 seconds
2) Flawless Dawnbreaker
while slotted increase weapon damage by 2 %
now in both cases there will be + 3% to weapon damage due to the passive - Slayer (increases weapon damage by 3% for each FG ability slotted)
in the case of Flawless Dawnbreaker the increase in weapon damage would be 2% + 3% = 5%
and in the case of Dawnbreaker of smiting the increase would be just 3%
Now which one you guys think is better off?
I am personally prone to thinking that Dawnbreaker of Smiting is a better choice, as it provides higher initial/instant damage + dot damage & also knocks down enemies
plus, worth taking into the account that with the release of DB Flawless Dawnbreaker has been nerfed from giving 5% to 2% of weapon damage
I also don't use Uppercut anymore, so that might play a role for arguing in favor for Smiting
Please give any suggestions, if you have of why I should use Flawless Dawnbreaker instead of Dawnbreaker of Smiting
thx
Edited by Chelister on June 20, 2016 11:20PM deals more instant damage + more dot damage = overall higher damage
also knocks enemies down for 1.8 seconds
2) Flawless Dawnbreaker
while slotted increase weapon damage by 2 %
now in both cases there will be + 3% to weapon damage due to the passive - Slayer (increases weapon damage by 3% for each FG ability slotted)
in the case of Flawless Dawnbreaker the increase in weapon damage would be 2% + 3% = 5%
and in the case of Dawnbreaker of smiting the increase would be just 3%
Now which one you guys think is better off?
I am personally prone to thinking that Dawnbreaker of Smiting is a better choice, as it provides higher initial/instant damage + dot damage & also knocks down enemies
plus, worth taking into the account that with the release of DB Flawless Dawnbreaker has been nerfed from giving 5% to 2% of weapon damage
I also don't use Uppercut anymore, so that might play a role for arguing in favor for Smiting
Please give any suggestions, if you have of why I should use Flawless Dawnbreaker instead of Dawnbreaker of Smiting
thx
Dawnbreaker of Smiting or Flawless Dawnbreaker 81 votes
Dawnbreaker of Smiting
60%
49 votes
Flawless Dawnbreaker
39%
32 votes
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Chelister✭✭✭I am 190 CP stamina templar running:
4 piece of Hunding's Rage (+ weapon)
2 piece of Night's Silece
1 piece Maw
(5 medium + 2 heavy)
1st bar:
Biting Jabs
Executioner
Stampede
Rally
Repentance
2nd bar:
Resolving Vigor
Shuffle
Restoring Focus
Posion Injection
Ritual of Retribution or Extended Ritual (can't decide yet)0 -
phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I use it purely for the damage increase, as an ultimate on use it's kind of crappy. Also it goes up 1% per rank, so at rank IV its 5% base.Edited by phaneub17_ESO on June 20, 2016 11:39PM4 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Flawless DawnbreakerI am 190 CP stamina templar running:
4 piece of Hunding's Rage (+ weapon)
2 piece of Night's Silece
1 piece Maw
(5 medium + 2 heavy)
1st bar:
Biting Jabs
Executioner
Stampede
Rally
Repentance
2nd bar:
Resolving Vigor
Shuffle
Restoring Focus
Posion Injection
Ritual of Retribution or Extended Ritual (can't decide yet)
If you go with burst dmg, then FDB
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Vangy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dawnbreaker of SmitingDBOS is simply insane. It scales ridiculoulsy well, its cheap and a hard hitting AOE ult with an inbuilt CC that cannot be dodge rolled as long as target is still in range. In PvP, its a no-brainer unless you are going for some gankinator build. A few % weapon damage is not even noticeably when most stam builds are already in the 4k+ range. Basically the same as trading off divines for impen in PvP. The couple % mundus bonus is negligible compared to the utility impen offers you.(2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Flawless Dawnbreaker:
Pure DPS. You want to hit those very high numbers and this helps a lot. Vet Dungeons and mostly trials are where this is necessary. In Maelstrom Arena it is also generally smarter to choose this morph.
Also note:
Rank I - 2% passive Weapon Damage
Rank II - 3% passive Weapon Damage
Rank III - 4% passive Weapon Damage
Rank IV - 5% passive Weapon Damage
Dawnbreaker of Smiting:
Everything except pure DPS. You will want to choose this morph for PvP, and is probably more helpful for solo content. The knockdown can be pretty nice in Maelstrom Arena as well (duration is short though). It is the more bursty morph and feels stronger as an Ult.
In general: Both are very good, and regardless of what you're doing, there is no "wrong" choice. Flawless Dawnbreaker is typically better in PvE while Dawnbreaker of Smiting is typically better in PvP.
Edited by Vaoh on June 21, 2016 3:13AM4 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wow, you make Mannimarco proud with your powers of thread necromancy!
Generally speaking, I recommend Dawnbreaker of Smiting for PVP and Flawless Dawnbreaker for PVE, but it depends on your build.
Now can you please stop resurrecting threads from 2016?
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭no sure exactly what "smiting" means - but, it sounds pretty cool...kinda like dawnbreaker of smackdown...
go with dawnbreaker of smiting/smackdown...Edited by geonsocal on February 8, 2018 1:12AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭no sure exactly what "smiting" means - but, it sounds pretty cool...kinda like dawnbreaker of smackdown...
go with dawnbreaker of smiting/smackdown...
It means, strike with a firm blow, I mean if that is your thing but the long and the short of it is smiting for PvP and flawless for pve. Simple as.0 -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »no sure exactly what "smiting" means - but, it sounds pretty cool...kinda like dawnbreaker of smackdown...
go with dawnbreaker of smiting/smackdown...
It means, strike with a firm blow, I mean if that is your thing but the long and the short of it is smiting for PvP and flawless for pve. Simple as.
hmmmm, strike with a firm blow actually sounds kind of freaky...
yeah, dawnbreaker of smiting all day long...
and, no doubt in this case - it is much better to give than to receive
Edited by geonsocal on February 8, 2018 6:53AMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
Talyndor✭✭✭Thanks all.
I appreciate the advice.
I opted for flawless since I PvE exclusively.
I just wanted thoughts as of this month/year since things change so much, and I didn't think I could rely on the original thread from 2016.1 -
MrsPink✭✭✭At least give OP some credit for using the search function of the forums and not just starting another thread.GM of Dark Royalty
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shadowofnarsil✭✭✭Flawless DawnbreakerInteresting that Smiting leads this, at least when iI viewed the poll - for raw damage boost, Flawless is without peer. Having said that, Smiting is incredibly useful in certain situations, and can ultimately lead to higher DPS, for those. Village of the Lost,, solo, as 1 example.
Above comment for PvE, only.Edited by shadowofnarsil on February 18, 2018 2:34AM0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭shadowofnarsil wrote: »Interesting that Smiting leads this, at least when iI viewed the poll - for raw damage boost, Flawless is without peer. Having said that, Smiting is incredibly useful in certain situations, and can ultimately lead to higher DPS, for those. Village of the Lost,, solo, as 1 example.
Above comment for PvE, only.
Keep in mind that this thread started in 2016.0 -
Cortimi✭✭✭✭✭So use the search function, get balls busted for "necroing a thread", or start a new thread and get bitched at for not using the search function. Can't win either way.Xbox NA: Soviet Messiah
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So use the search function, get balls busted for "necroing a thread", or start a new thread and get bitched at for not using the search function. Can't win either way.
It depends on what impression you wanna make.. necroing will make you look like a troll or meticulous person, creating new on such obvious question like dawnbreaker will make you a noob or a clueless or a sloth
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TheYKcid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So use the search function, get balls busted for "necroing a thread", or start a new thread and get bitched at for not using the search function. Can't win either way.
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DemonDruaga✭✭✭✭Flawless DawnbreakerI go with flawless for group pve content. Tanks would be mad at me if I provide CC imunity to the adds and interfere with their job to crowd control.
For everything else solo related or pvp I go with smiting, more burst and CC is what I want/need thereArdor // Dunkelsicht // Pakt0 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pure sustained PVE DPS, Flawless Dawnbreaker on your front bar, and it's there for the passives. In PVP, VMA, and just about everywhere else, Dawnbreaker of Smiting is the better choice.
Edit: Ahh... Fell for the necro bait.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on November 8, 2018 9:47PM1 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Flawless DawnbreakerOn my stamNB, I prefer Flawless DB, over DBoS. I already have a great AoE Ranged timed CC, that ignores everything with Manifestation of Terror. Also, I use Incap Strike for most situations anyways. I don't really need DB except for the occasional AoE burst in BGs/PvP and the extra 5+3% weapon damage translates to around 3.5% extra damage on all skills for FDB, while DBoS hits 8% harder+stun. I prefer 3.5% extra damage on everything, which is the only reason on most NBs to use FDB, as Incap/Onslaught hits harder by a huge margin especially with Major Evasion coming into play, while Ballista, if used tactically gives insane pressure and forces enemies to turtle up/dodge spam guaranteeing empty resources or straight up die.Edited by susmitds on November 8, 2018 9:59PM0 -
Adeshal✭✭Flawless DawnbreakerFor PvE: Flawless Dawnbreaker (it's mostly for passive weapon damage, because you use other ultimates dependent on your class).
For PvP: Dawnbreaker of Smiting (great burst, because of quick animation and high DoT effect).0
