Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply I apprecaite it. I will try again the fortified brass but I was missing resources in no cp last time I used it

I run viper today but will test unfathomable once I get it (need to farm CWC)

I run vma 2h as I dont have asylum one

U.D. is really cheap in the stores nowadays. I got my full set (jewls, SnB) for under 7.5k yesterday.

I saw sixty5's build and it seems really interesting. But there kicks in my old conflict between fortified and impregnable, although I think Impreg really shines in CP environments more.

On Impreg you loose out on 6.4k resistance
On Impreg you gain 500-1500 impen (from 41% on FB up to 60% on IA), 2.5k stam, 1.1k mag (both after modifiers) and 1-3 armor traits of your choice

I think Fortified is better but it's on you to make that trade off. However, Impreg gives you resources, which you said you struggle to get. I am a cheap ass that's low on mats and have Impreg already golded, so I go with that, even if it's not BiS.

My position is that max resources are less valuable in non CP, given that you are missing the 20% boost to all of them that CP gives. 25k stam seems to be pretty sufficient for my needs, especially with liberal use of Dark Deal.
The fact that we are running Medium armour actually means that we don't need as much Stamina, as our ability and dodge costs are getting reduced. We also get a pretty nice amp to weapon damage from medium, meaning that our damage breaks even with someone running 30k stam in heavy armour.

Impregnable is definitely going to make you more durable against burst damage, but given how prevalent proc sets are in no-CP and given the fact that they cannot crit, I felt like Fortified would be a better choice, especially since resistances are more valuable in no-cp, given that crit chance is reduced across the board, and people do not have easy access to penetration and crit damage amplification.

Unfathomable Darkness is actually stupidly cheap on guild stores, you can pick up 3 pieces of jewelry for under 2k, and the weapons aren't terrible either.

Morgul667 wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply I apprecaite it. I will try again the fortified brass but I was missing resources in no cp last time I used it

I run viper today but will test unfathomable once I get it (need to farm CWC)

I run vma 2h as I dont have asylum one

U.D. is really cheap in the stores nowadays. I got my full set (jewls, SnB) for under 7.5k yesterday.

I saw sixty5's build and it seems really interesting. But there kicks in my old conflict between fortified and impregnable, although I think Impreg really shines in CP environments more.

On Impreg you loose out on 6.4k resistance
On Impreg you gain 500-1500 impen (from 41% on FB up to 60% on IA), 2.5k stam, 1.1k mag (both after modifiers) and 1-3 armor traits of your choice

I think Fortified is better but it's on you to make that trade off. However, Impreg gives you resources, which you said you struggle to get. I am a cheap ass that's low on mats and have Impreg already golded, so I go with that, even if it's not BiS.

Thanks i just did that and tried it today in BG was better than before but not sure how UD is performing compared to others sets

Had to remove critical surge to keep the magicka flow ok and went with UD + FB

Need to find test it more extensively

What monster set do you guys run? I always found i like other sets better than bloodspawn

Seems very hard to survive when everybodys focus you nowadays very quick death :-D

I really like Blood Spawn since it will overcap my resists and negate enemy penetration when it procs, it also gives a nice big juicy chunk of ultimate generation letting me get my Dawnbreaker up again, which is pretty big for this build since we are lower on the damage scale. I think the lowest time to get Dawnbreaker back after casting one I have had is something like 15 seconds, which is pretty ridiculous.

Unfathomable Darkness can probably be replaced with any medium proc set, but I just like how the 234 piece is about the best possible combination for damage in no-CP, and the sets proc deals multiple instances of physical damage, meaning that you get more chances to proc implosion, and it is actually getting buffed by sorcerer passives. Plus Unfathomable Darkness is a wee bit broken right now and the proc is critting for some reason. I had actually considered trying out Twin Sisters over it as well.

Dropping Surge hurts at first, but then you realise that the actual heal proc isn't that big, and because you are in no-CP your crit chance tends to be lower as well.