How about making Outfit system more taxing?

Aliyavana · February 2018

I wish the lol button was back

Getern · February 2018

Here we go again series of dont make it harder or it will hurt my feelings kind of ***.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

why do you want to ruin other peoples fun?

Explain urself, how is this ruining someone's fun? By making his ass to actually do something?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

2. The outfitter isn't cheap if you're mixing in rare motif styles. One outfit overlay can be 10k or more in gold depending on the motif style you're using. Now multiply that by the number of characters (or additional outfit slots) you have. Now we're in the hundreds of thousands of gold. I agree gold is easy to obtain ... but your comments are a little too cavalier about how much the outfitter actually costs.

Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2018

My concern is motif style materials. If outfit system will only requite gold use for a specific style - then basically all of the style materials market prices at trading guilds might go crazy - or there will be simply no one selling them anymore. Sure - those will be still needed for a specific crafting writ to complete - but that will be the only use.
So lets say imagine you have a crafting writ that rewards you with like 100 crating vouchers but it requires a "Dro-m'Athra" style... and no one is selling crafting style mats for that style anymore.
ZOS should just tone down gold price of using outfit station and add a material style cost instead.

Jura23 · February 2018

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

My concern is motif style materials. If outfit system will only requite gold use for a specific style - then basically all of the style materials market prices at trading guilds might go crazy - or there will be simply no one selling them anymore. Sure - those will be still needed for a specific crafting writ to complete - but that will be the only use.
So lets say imagine you have a crafting writ that rewards you with like 100 crating vouchers but it requires a "Dro-m'Athra" style... and no one is selling it crafting style mats for that style anymore.
ZOS should just tone down gold price of using outfit station and add a material style cost instead.

In a few weeks/months, they will be looking for ways how to make style materials relevant again, no doubt about it.

twnhny · February 2018

I'm so glad this came up 2 days before release. Such a bad idea. I have been playing since beta, still I don't have all motifs on my main. Sure, if I had focused on that then yeah, I probably would have them but it's just not interesting, farming motifs all day long. So...

Jura23 wrote: »

Yes it is. I can easily have 150k a week doing basicalnothing, jsut playing casually.

Lies, lies and lies. Unless playing casually involves farming mats, motifs, writs, telvars and AP then you're not making 150k a week. Not in a million years. But casual gameplay includes some daily pledges which do not give you gold, maybe some normal Trials and/or some vet Trials which would give you some gold and then you have PvP where if you're just casual you will get stomped so, no gold for you. I really, really... really don't see how casual gameplay gives you 150k gold a week, and how so many others claim the same thing. Please explain.

EvilCroc · February 2018

I've just completed my motif collection. And I'm pretty happy with current PTS Outfit system. My 13 alts are hunger for new fashion festival incoming.

duendology · February 2018

Umm, no!

Jura23 · February 2018

twnhny wrote: »

I'm so glad this came up 2 days before release. Such a bad idea. I have been playing since beta, still I don't have all motifs on my main. Sure, if I had focused on that then yeah, I probably would have them but it's just not interesting, farming motifs all day long. So...

Jura23 wrote: »

Yes it is. I can easily have 150k a week doing basicalnothing, jsut playing casually.

Lies, lies and lies. Unless playing casually involves farming mats, motifs, writs, telvars and AP then you're not making 150k a week. Not in a million years. But casual gameplay includes some daily pledges which do not give you gold, maybe some normal Trials and/or some vet Trials which would give you some gold and then you have PvP where if you're just casual you will get stomped so, no gold for you. I really, really... really don't see how casual gameplay gives you 150k gold a week, and how so many others claim the same thing. Please explain.

I do guild and wrothgar dailies, which gives me a few pages now and then, but I wouldn't call that farming. Collecting resources is what I do beetween waiting for dolmens during FG daily, because I couldn't be bothered to ride to another one. That!'s how lazy I am in this game. I also do some pickpocketing, that gives me about 5k a day.

I dont do writs at all. I have my crafting maxed and I can't be bothered to do them anymore.

JJBoomer · February 2018

Getern wrote: »

Here we go again series of dont make it harder or it will hurt my feelings kind of ***.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

why do you want to ruin other peoples fun?

Explain urself, how is this ruining someone's fun? By making his ass to actually do something?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

2. The outfitter isn't cheap if you're mixing in rare motif styles. One outfit overlay can be 10k or more in gold depending on the motif style you're using. Now multiply that by the number of characters (or additional outfit slots) you have. Now we're in the hundreds of thousands of gold. I agree gold is easy to obtain ... but your comments are a little too cavalier about how much the outfitter actually costs.

Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?

"Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?"

What you just said: Omg I'm so rich! Wait...other people aren't rich? lol wtaf?

duendology · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

I do guild and wrothgar dailies, which gives me a few pages now and then, but I wouldn't call that farming. Collecting resources is what I do beetween waiting for dolmens during FG daily, because I couldn't be bothered to ride to another one. That!'s how lazy I am in this game. I also do some pickpocketing, that gives me about 5k a day.

I dont do writs at all. I have my crafting maxed and I can't be bothered to do them anymore.

And here's a difference, I guess, how people understand "casual". I don't do dailies daily. I do them when I have a mood for such. I don't play every day. I grind when I absolutely have to. I like to do a quest here, a dolmen there, a dungeon, or just roam Tamriel (and on my way farm here or there), I absolutely abhor doing one thing on repeat at nauseam because of "da loot" or gold. When I play I have, maybe, an hour or max two. if I were to do dailies, farming, and pickpocketing , because... "monies", I'd stop playing this game. I already think it's such a dread for me to waste at least one gaming session on farming because one of my guilds has a weekly minimum sale in order to stay in the guild.. but so be it.

So, yeah, it's not hard to make gold in this game, I agree... but NOT every player has time or, even, is interested in making gold in this game..therefore stating that things should be more expensive because gold is easy, is one sided and I'd reply to such a person..."SPEAK FOR YOURSELF".

madeeh91rwb17_ESO · February 2018

Getern wrote: »

So far, gold is totaly worhtless

I think I can solve that problem for you.

FakeFox · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to buying crownstore exclusive styles multiple times or buoyant armiger for a few million gold. What a genius idea!

Would be your choice.

My bad, I should be thankful I can at least choose to simply not have good looking armour on my twinks. I expected to be forced to buy those styles on every single one of my 14 characters. What a stupid argument.

Getern · February 2018

JJBoomer wrote: »

Getern wrote: »

Here we go again series of dont make it harder or it will hurt my feelings kind of ***.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

why do you want to ruin other peoples fun?

Explain urself, how is this ruining someone's fun? By making his ass to actually do something?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

2. The outfitter isn't cheap if you're mixing in rare motif styles. One outfit overlay can be 10k or more in gold depending on the motif style you're using. Now multiply that by the number of characters (or additional outfit slots) you have. Now we're in the hundreds of thousands of gold. I agree gold is easy to obtain ... but your comments are a little too cavalier about how much the outfitter actually costs.

Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?

"Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?"

What you just said: Omg I'm so rich! Wait...other people aren't rich? lol wtaf?

What concern me the most that actual ppl agree with u

Lets say it makes u a day to get 10k, is it really that much? To work entire day to get the look u wanted?

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · February 2018

@Jhalin bruh I brought this up 2 months ago as well.

Facefister · February 2018

Getern wrote: »

It is known for now, that already known styles on your main/crafter will be avaliable on your alt. Why tho? It makes no sense, considering that all achievments are not account wide. Fact itself that the system is not even that pricy, why not making ur alt require to know certain styles u want? While casual side would get hit, motifs would get far more demanded therefore gold could become more valuable. So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

In a game where costumes, dyes and overall the look of your characters being a thing, that whole system should be free not cost more.

duendology · February 2018

Getern wrote: »

JJBoomer wrote: »

Getern wrote: »

Here we go again series of dont make it harder or it will hurt my feelings kind of ***.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

why do you want to ruin other peoples fun?

Explain urself, how is this ruining someone's fun? By making his ass to actually do something?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

2. The outfitter isn't cheap if you're mixing in rare motif styles. One outfit overlay can be 10k or more in gold depending on the motif style you're using. Now multiply that by the number of characters (or additional outfit slots) you have. Now we're in the hundreds of thousands of gold. I agree gold is easy to obtain ... but your comments are a little too cavalier about how much the outfitter actually costs.

Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?

"Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?"

What you just said: Omg I'm so rich! Wait...other people aren't rich? lol wtaf?

What concern me the most that actual ppl agree with u

Lets say it makes u a day to get 10k, is it really that much? To work entire day to get the look u wanted?

LOL. Maybe you're right, this is what MMO is all about. grinding all day to have a nice... dress, so to speak.
And well, there's nothing wrong with looking nice.. but I'd rather have my wrists cut with stale bread than spend AN ENTIRE DAY farming/grinding to dazzle NPCs and maybe few players with my ze gorgeous costume or skin or whatever lol

And again. NOT every player plays this game to get gold. To some it's an added benefit, you realise.

klowdy1 · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Getern wrote: »

So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

Speak for yourself.

Yes it is. I can easily have 150k a week doing basically nothing, jsut playing casually.

Yeah, you know, casual farming. Not going out in the world to check it out, and see the scenes, just farming gold.

Not everyone finds that to be fun gameplay, and at the end of the day, if it isn't fun, why play? Maybe YOU can make that much doing whatever it is you consider casual, but not everyone has the urge to grind for gold. Some people listen to the stories in the quests, and don't rush through everything. Not everyone makes gold the same.

Rex-Umbra · February 2018

Should cost style material

boombazookajd · February 2018

Getern wrote: »

I buy what I need/want and I am never poor. Its pathetic, no initiative required whatsoever.

Teach me master. Because i'm always broke AF

Mureel · February 2018

mommadani907 wrote: »

You stop it OP. No way do I want to have to buy all the spendy motif's a billion times so all my alts have the look I want for them. And god forbid I delete an alt and make a new one. I shudder to think about all that wasted gold..

Yes OP, go to your room and think about what you just said!

Hurbster · February 2018

Getern wrote: »

JJBoomer wrote: »

Getern wrote: »

Here we go again series of dont make it harder or it will hurt my feelings kind of ***.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

why do you want to ruin other peoples fun?

Explain urself, how is this ruining someone's fun? By making his ass to actually do something?

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

2. The outfitter isn't cheap if you're mixing in rare motif styles. One outfit overlay can be 10k or more in gold depending on the motif style you're using. Now multiply that by the number of characters (or additional outfit slots) you have. Now we're in the hundreds of thousands of gold. I agree gold is easy to obtain ... but your comments are a little too cavalier about how much the outfitter actually costs.

Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?

"Is 10k really that much? Are u serious?"

What you just said: Omg I'm so rich! Wait...other people aren't rich? lol wtaf?

What concern me the most that actual ppl agree with u

Lets say it makes u a day to get 10k, is it really that much? To work entire day to get the look u wanted?

Think the wife and kids might have something to say about that...

CaffeinatedMayhem · February 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

It’s in the first set of PTS patch notes ... located here:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/388819/pts-patch-notes-v3-3-0/p1

Crafting Motifs
With the release of the Outfit System, we've adjusted the drop rates for a number of Crafting Motifs to help ensure certain impressive or prestigious Motifs retain a degree of rarity.

Right... still not idea what the "reduction" is... so for many, it would be 0. Literally. It can take a MONTH (not joking or exaggerating) to get a single page drop. Lower that any further and it's not in the game anymore, I don't care what ZOS says.

boombazookajd · February 2018

thatlaurachick wrote: »

Right... still not idea what the "reduction" is... so for many, it would be 0. Literally. It can take a MONTH (not joking or exaggerating) to get a single page drop. Lower that any further and it's not in the game anymore, I don't care what ZOS says.

What really kills me is that these motifs aren't behind a skill wall. For that I can get behind the skins and such, they are a reward for actually DOING something.

@thatlaurachick Your motif struggles are well known as are others and its rather insane that the devs want to keep certain styles rare by having their drop rate so infinitesimally small that it's in all practically, 0. BA motifs are nearly nonexistent.

If I want a monster helm, all I have to do the dungeon, especially something like Kraghs or Shadowrend which is stupid easy even in HM. Even my recent Skoria shoulder grind which felt insane, only took about a week and a half. The idea of farming BA motifs would lead me to a padded room for sure.

Iccotak · February 2018

Why is the thread still running? It's a terrible idea that is unnecessarily restrictive of players cosmetic customization. End of Discussion

AbysmalGhul · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Getern wrote: »

So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

Speak for yourself.

Yes it is. I can easily have 150k a week doing basically nothing, jsut playing casually.

Share the secret, Daddy Warbucks

Elvent · February 2018

WatchYourSixx wrote: »

Gold has always been easy to obtain even since launch. Why do you think horses cost 40k gold from the stable master? XD don't see how gold is worthless though

I don't know... I remember when the game was new, every single mob and boss would only drop 1 or 2 gold. So glad they fixed that.

CaffeinatedMayhem · February 2018

Iccotak wrote: »

Why is the thread still running? It's a terrible idea that is unnecessarily restrictive of players cosmetic customization. End of Discussion

Sorry we wanted to chat oh great mod. *bows and slings a mudball*

boombazookajd · February 2018

Iccotak wrote: »

Why is the thread still running? It's a terrible idea that is unnecessarily restrictive of players cosmetic customization. End of Discussion

Because, although it is a terrible idea, it follows the rules of the forum and the OP is entitled to his opinion. Your dissenting opinion and overbearing declaration of the end of the discussion doesn't indicate that the OP's thread just shuts down.

In the history of the general forums, there have been way worse ideas.

ArchMikem · February 2018

Jura23 wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

Getern wrote: »

So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

Speak for yourself.

Yes it is. I can easily have 150k a week doing basically nothing, jsut playing casually.

Okay..

People know the simplest way of earning gold "casually" is to steal items and sell them. Let's just assume for those five days you get really lucky and pocket 12k worth of items a day. (I average 6k to 8k if I don't cherry pick items based on quality) That's still only 60,000g for a week (5 days) of stealing. And if you're doing this every day, it becomes more a job and less casual play.

What if you do the Undaunted pledges and then pawn off the loot at a merchant? That's like, another 8k to 10k at best.

I'm still coming up short from your easy number. And just remember, most people don't have access to a popular Guild Trader where you're basically guaranteed sales every day.

BloodWolfe · February 2018

Are you for real? This must be a troll post, no way in hell should we have to buy absurdly priced motifs on the crown shop for every char we have just because you want to sell motifs you loot for more gold.