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How about making Outfit system more taxing?

Getern
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It is known for now, that already known styles on your main/crafter will be avaliable on your alt. Why tho? It makes no sense, considering that all achievments are not account wide. Fact itself that the system is not even that pricy, why not making ur alt require to know certain styles u want? While casual side would get hit, motifs would get far more demanded therefore gold could become more valuable. So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.
  • AbysmalGhul
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    ^ This guy
  • WatchYourSixx
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    Gold has always been easy to obtain even since launch. Why do you think horses cost 40k gold from the stable master? XD don't see how gold is worthless though
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  • Jhalin
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    Bruh you bring this up 2 days before release? Optimistic
  • Getern
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    Gold has always been easy to obtain even since launch. Why do you think horses cost 40k gold from the stable master? XD don't see how gold is worthless though

    How do I consider gold being worthless? I am constantly making money but I am not even trying, idk doing something dedicated to earn gold. I buy what I need/want and I am never poor. Its pathetic, no initiative required whatsoever.
  • FakeFox
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    Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to buying crownstore exclusive styles multiple times or buoyant armiger for a few million gold. What a genius idea!
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  • Kelces
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    Interesting. Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of role in role-playing?
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Your understanding of the last month of PTS is cause for concern, @Getern.

    1. ZOS has already planned to reduce the drop rate of motifs across the board for this Monday ... which is in the PTS patch notes. This is in response to the anticipated reduction in motif demand. You'll still need motifs on each character to craft gear in a certain style ... not necessarily for yourself but for others who don't have the motif learned.

    2. The outfitter isn't cheap if you're mixing in rare motif styles. One outfit overlay can be 10k or more in gold depending on the motif style you're using. Now multiply that by the number of characters (or additional outfit slots) you have. Now we're in the hundreds of thousands of gold. I agree gold is easy to obtain ... but your comments are a little too cavalier about how much the outfitter actually costs.
  • Loves_guars
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    Is this serious? Yes gold is easy to get if you actively go grind gold or spend TIME gathering mats, etc. For most casual players that only have little time to log in, maybe level, maybe do 2 dungeons with friends, it's not that easy to get. Most of my friends don't have more than 75k gold.
    And the outfit system shouldn't be exclusive for veteran players or the ones that have time to grind gold.
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    1. ZOS has already planned to reduce the drop rate of motifs across the board for this Monday ... which is in the PTS patch notes. This is in response to the anticipated reduction in motif demand. You'll still need motifs on each character to craft gear in a certain style ... not necessarily for yourself but for others who don't have the motif learned.

    Reduce to what? 0? Non-existent? For most motifs it is exceptionally rare to get even a single page now. I'm glad I've collected all of them on my main but still, I want achivements for better writs on my alts. It's pulling teeth without novocaine now to get ANY pages, much less one you need!

    FFS.
    Edited by CaffeinatedMayhem on February 11, 2018 12:38AM
  • klowdy1
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    Says the guy selling motifs on at the GT. Not going to happen, ZoS isn't going to make costumes that casual carebears have been asking for since the beginning more exclusive. Motifs drop to nothing by the time the next DLC has been out for a few weeks anyway. Find something else to farm.
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    Lol
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  • Banana
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    Hell no. You want another grind :o
  • Loralai_907
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    You stop it OP. No way do I want to have to buy all the spendy motif's a billion times so all my alts have the look I want for them. And god forbid I delete an alt and make a new one. I shudder to think about all that wasted gold..
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  • Tasear
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    Why do you want people to suffer?
  • Ackwalan
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    Imagine the motif market, it all alts had to learn the style. I like this idea.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Reduce to what? 0? Non-existent? For most motifs it is exceptionally rare to get even a single page now. I'm glad I've collected all of them on my main but still, I want achivements for better writs on my alts. It's pulling teeth without novocaine now to get ANY pages, much less one you need!

    FFS.

    It’s in the first set of PTS patch notes ... located here:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/388819/pts-patch-notes-v3-3-0/p1

    Crafting Motifs
    With the release of the Outfit System, we've adjusted the drop rates for a number of Crafting Motifs to help ensure certain impressive or prestigious Motifs retain a degree of rarity.
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  • LadyAstrum
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    I'm glad the motifs will be account wide for the outfit system. I think making them per character would make putting outfits together too arduous, and way too expensive for a lot of players. It would take a lot of fun out of it if you'd have to buy multiples of the same motifs just to use on alts.
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  • Nemesis7884
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    Getern wrote: »
    It is known for now, that already known styles on your main/crafter will be avaliable on your alt. Why tho? It makes no sense, considering that all achievments are not account wide. Fact itself that the system is not even that pricy, why not making ur alt require to know certain styles u want? While casual side would get hit, motifs would get far more demanded therefore gold could become more valuable. So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

    why do you want to ruin other peoples fun?
  • Vapirko
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    No way man that’s redundant. ZOS was incredibly kind in having it the way they do and it was a good move.
  • Reedx
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    i know this is a very stupid but just image a world where ppl where not always complaining or acting like spolied kids...
    now wouldt THAT be something
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  • Sevn
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    Skyper wrote: »
    i know this is a very stupid but just image a world where ppl where not always complaining or acting like spolied kids...
    now wouldt THAT be something

    Never gonna happen. If everyday were a sunny day, someone would complain that it's too sunny all the time. Some folks are never satisfied.
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  • Iccotak
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    Um...No
  • LordGavus
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    Yeah, I'd rather not have to grind or buy all styles on all my alts.
  • Ohtimbar
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    I'm happy to finally see some payoff for the master crafter/all motifs/etc grind. If they take that away from me I'm gone and with all haste. never ever to return.
    forever stuck in combat
  • SydneyGrey
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    Wow, that's a freaking terrible idea. :#
  • Jura23
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    Great idea, sadly they won't listen.
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  • Jura23
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    FakeFox wrote: »
    Oh yeah, I'm really looking forward to buying crownstore exclusive styles multiple times or buoyant armiger for a few million gold. What a genius idea!

    Would be your choice.
    Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU
  • ArchMikem
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    Getern wrote: »
    So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

    Speak for yourself.
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  • Jura23
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Getern wrote: »
    So far, gold is totaly worhtless and way to easy to obtain.

    Speak for yourself.

    Yes it is. I can easily have 150k a week doing basically nothing, jsut playing casually.
    Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU
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