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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    Sustain changes.

    Monster set crit changes.

    Block changes.
  • Azurya
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    quite easy to answer:
    due to the PvP wanted nerfs to stamNB, my stamblades are no longer wnated in any raid!
    we see in any raid 1 Tank, 1 Off tank, 2 healers, and 8 magicka users with staves, and nothing else!

    Oh, and almost forgot: stamsorc neither!

    and we don´t wanna start to talk about wardens, with Morrowind my first Magwarden was part in raidgroup, after several nerfs to her abilities she is now my Carryann, and sits in a bank, waiting for something to do
    Edited by Azurya on February 8, 2018 7:33AM
  • Aisle9
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    That went sideways real quick

    I got hate whispers from both PVE and PVP community. Try playing both and you'll see none of them is as bad or as good as people tend to say. Just people.

    In fairness, that started sideways.

    And I still can't figure out which nerf the OP is referring to...

    Doctordarkspawn wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    Sustain changes.

    Monster set crit changes.

    Block changes.

    Yes, because crits are so important in PvP that literally everyone stacks on crit rating... oh, wait

    Also, funny how the changes to block cost is affecting so many people during what it seems to be a tank shortage...

    Azurya wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    quite easy to answer:
    due to the PvP wanted nerfs to stamNB, my stamblades are no longer wnated in any raid!
    we see in any raid 1 Tank, 1 Off tank, 2 healers, and 8 magicka users with staves, and nothing else!

    Oh, and almost forgot: stamsorc neither!

    and we don´t wanna start to talk about wardens, with Morrowind my first Magwarden was part in raidgroup, after several nerfs to her abilities she is now my Carryann, and sits in a bank, waiting for something to do

    WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DRINKING ?!

    Stamblades getting kicked from raids, wardens getting nerfs, what are you talking about ?

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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Boo Hoo .
  • Zbigb4life
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    No I'd rather think it's out of incompetence
  • Feanor
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    Personally I blame Uncle Sheo. Would explain the madness people are raving about the PvP players as culprits too.
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  • AnviOfVai
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    Well this Thread turned into "PVPers hate PVE's and PVEs have PVPers.

    Why is it we can never get a long?

    Where is the love guys.

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  • FloppyTouch
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    Doctordarkspawn wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    Sustain changes.

    Monster set crit changes.

    Block changes.

    You are very wrong on sustain and monster crit changes devs even stated the change to crit was over performing in dps in pve

    Sustain was pve players completely ignoring recovery and spamming rotations and having much higher dps then dev wanted. This change was from dps skipping boss mechanics altogether.

    I’ll give you the block one that was an issue in pvp but and a big but here the devs also stated that changing block was to make tanking more then just holding down a button and stacking stam regen.
    Edited by FloppyTouch on February 8, 2018 9:53AM
  • Edziu
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    pod88kk wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    Changes to crit damage & monster sets not critting
    Doctordarkspawn wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    Sustain changes.

    Monster set crit changes.

    Block changes.

    well...changes to crit damage its mainlt from pve....in pve everyone was going for max crit modifiers like warhorns and beast traps, those got nerf even with just buff tot his crit damage while almost nobody is using those skills on pvp....its very rarely seen even just beast trap on pvp
    at all on pvp we have impen and dmg shield thanks which we not going for max crit % and damage

    monster set crits both, pvp and pve, in pvp to mch free burst even without crit
    in pve to much free dps it was especially with crit which was going for more power creep with melting bosses faster with skipping mechanics

    sustain changes...tbh I dont feel those sustain changes on pvp...on pve I feel it *** with heavy attack spama nd that why I just dropped pve while on pvp I dont feel those changes with sustain, still ahve no problem with this until resource poison will proc on me which is problem since alwys when they was implemented

    block changes...wont say about it as never was playing that much tankly on pvp for permblock
  • Malmai
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf everything , let the world run slower , then players have to spend more time in the game ,
    ESO could run longer and make much more profit I guess?

    Voila exactly that, PvP doesnt matter its just excuse... Get that cash...
  • huschdeguddzje
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    You do get that both pve and pvp problems would be solved if they would be balanced separately?
    They work way to differently from each other.
    Pvers are restrained by pvpers and vice versa
  • Aliyavana
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... pvp'ers.

    PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. And let me ask you this, how has your ability to successfully PvE been truly hindered because of any changes made due to PvP?

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL
  • Aliyavana
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    rustic_potato wrote: »
    When most of the end game players are PVP oriented it is obvious that they prioritize PVPers. Stop whining and get over it.

    Huh? Are we playing the same game? If that was the case then this game would be PvP oriented, cyrodil wouldn't be neglected and pvpers would have more content to do. Seeing as most content is pve oriented then it's safe to assume that there is less PvP oriented people, and I don't blame them as cyrodil is load screens online
  • gepe87
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    So, top PvE players go from 40kDPS to 35k due to nerfs?
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  • SshadowSscale
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    Ok im just gonna put this out there for all the pvp and pve crybabies......nerfs happened because of both pve and pvp....monster sets not critting for example was because of pvp.....sustain nerfs was because pve complained that it is too easy to sustain in dungeons and trials
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    Gothren wrote: »
    let me finish this. Zenimax has nerfed everything because of... care bears like you.
    Fixed it for you.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    The correct answer is partially “us” but more appropriately “them”.

    ZOS started this with adding VR levels where they said it was the wrong direction.....then further complicated it with changing stat allocation by removing overpowered. That was bad, but then they decided to add a PvP zone within a PvP zone that wasn’t finished that 4 years later still has the same issues it had during closed beta.

    Lastly, they added CP and this One Tamriel update with scaling....

    It’s more of “them” than “us” but we aren’t innocent either.
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on February 8, 2018 1:15PM
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  • efster
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    This thread's title sounds like a fantastic black card for Cards Against Humanity: TESO Edition.
    Edited by efster on February 8, 2018 1:49PM
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  • BloodWolfe
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    WuffyCerulei wrote: »
    Nerf everything until all skills and armor are deleted from the game. Everyone must be naked and fist-fight each other.

    Until someone cries about fists being OP then we'll all lose our fists too... and have to use our stumps, LOL.
  • cmetzger93
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    They nerfed everything because of the ever increasing amount of champion points.
  • LordSemaj
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    efster wrote: »
    This thread's title sounds like a fantastic black card for Cards Against Humanity: TESO Edition.

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  • Gorgoneus
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    ....because of PvP. because somebody too lasy to separate PvP from other content like other MMOs does (corean trash is not an option to tell about).
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    Hey there,
    We are closing this thread as it is rather off topic and could be considered baiting.
    Regards,
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