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Bounties should have a cap, and this is a BIG problem!
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Bax✭✭✭There's a perfectly viable method of eliminating your bounty already available in the game at literally every major city.
Pay it.
A few million gold is nothing too hard to obtain in this game. Some people make four times that per week.
Start trading.
Actually there is even easier solution. Die to guard. Afaik that removes bounty completely while not removing any gold from account.
No, it doesn't. Dying to a guard only lowers your bounty by the amount the guard takes off your corpse. If you ever died to a guard and your bounty went away, YOU LOST MONEY. If you die to a guard while having 0 gold or not enough gold to pay your bounty, the guard will simply take ALL of your money and leave your bounty untouched by the amount you still owe.
Thanks for correction, I didn't die to guard for quite a while and even when I did I never cared enough to check those few coins
I thought it was free, my bad then 
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starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I guess that swiftly forgotten thieves guild passive isn't really going to help at this point.FilipeRamos96 wrote: »
I guess the only choice this character has now is to spend your time in Cryodiil. You know that place where the people you try to gank can gank you back.
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preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't believe the answer that post is getting.
TESO is full of parangons of virtue, I see ..
Yes, one shouldn't get such a bounty. Yes, there sould be a way to concel it faster, and yes, It should capped.
Those people saying "gnah gnah, live with the consequences" for something happening in a GAME and that prevent a player HAVING FUN in a GAME are not good nor fair people .. they're just people that relish in the distress of others .. and this is quite sad.2 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Juju_beans wrote: »Bounties should have a cap so you can't get yourself too deep in trouble ?
No, people deserve to be deep in trouble if they murder 1500 NPCs for giggles.Hoping for more playable races8 -
JamuThatsWho✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't believe the answer that post is getting.
TESO is full of parangons of virtue, I see ..
Yes, one shouldn't get such a bounty. Yes, there sould be a way to concel it faster, and yes, It should capped.
Those people saying "gnah gnah, live with the consequences" for something happening in a GAME and that prevent a player HAVING FUN in a GAME are not good nor fair people .. they're just people that relish in the distress of others .. and this is quite sad.
Except it's really easy to NOT get a million bounty.@JamuThatsWho - PC EU - CP2100
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LordSemaj✭✭✭✭✭prevent a player HAVING FUN in a GAME are not good nor fair people
Explain how having a bounty prevents him from having fun. Criminal havens exist in every major city with a merchant, bank, and guild trader. Night Mothers Embrace + Night Terror sets exist so that you can stealth within 2 feet of a guard and he won't even notice, allowing players to complete any quest they desire.
All having a bounty does is change your playstyle because you committed criminal acts. It's a game mechanic. Next you'll be suggesting that bosses shouldn't do so much damage to players and there should be a cap on it so that players don't have to repeatedly die on fights when they stand in the stupid or get cleaved.7 -
monktoasty✭✭✭✭✭monktoasty wrote: »Stop equating this to real life. Get off your high horses with all this do the crime do the time crap.
The decay rate is clearly way to slow even with the thieves guild perk. I don't care if you have 900 million bounty..even 1 month is too long.
Either work on the decay rate or makeep the rewards for stealing and murdering 50.times more than it is now
Nonsense, you don't get these sort of insurmountable bounties by accident, you choose to do so.
So it's a game and such activity should not be punished so harshly unless thevrewardsvatw a lot better.
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LordSemaj✭✭✭✭✭monktoasty wrote: »monktoasty wrote: »Stop equating this to real life. Get off your high horses with all this do the crime do the time crap.
The decay rate is clearly way to slow even with the thieves guild perk. I don't care if you have 900 million bounty..even 1 month is too long.
Either work on the decay rate or makeep the rewards for stealing and murdering 50.times more than it is now
Nonsense, you don't get these sort of insurmountable bounties by accident, you choose to do so.
So it's a game and such activity should not be punished so harshly unless thevrewardsvatw a lot better.
The activity is being punished because the player is doing it WRONG. You receive ZERO bounty for correctly killing someone. You only receive a penalty when you do it incorrectly. Games are well known for punishing players who do it wrong. Try standing in front of the boss when he's charging his super attack.4 -
Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭IMO it's more a a challenge to murder and not get caught than just outright murder people and run off.
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Bax✭✭✭I can't believe the answer that post is getting.
TESO is full of parangons of virtue, I see ..
Yes, one shouldn't get such a bounty. Yes, there sould be a way to concel it faster, and yes, It should capped.
Those people saying "gnah gnah, live with the consequences" for something happening in a GAME and that prevent a player HAVING FUN in a GAME are not good nor fair people .. they're just people that relish in the distress of others .. and this is quite sad.
wait wait wait...
The whole reason why he made such high bounty is because he HAD FUN playing the game this way. Maybe it started to bore him, and he want a free get-out-of-jail card, but some decisions in game must have consequences. If there is an easy way out of this than bounty system would be even bigger joke than it already is.
But maybe there could be crown store bounty decreasing scrolls. Like 100k of bounty down for 1000 crowns. So about 60€ and he would be free 1 -
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✭✭✭starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »I guess that swiftly forgotten thieves guild passive isn't really going to help at this point.
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Do you think this thread will run out of steam before the bounty runs out tho?
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seaef✭✭✭✭✭FilipeRamos96 wrote: »
Not really. You went all Rambo on a bunch of NPCs and now you’re crying like a baby because there are consequences you think are too excessive. You must be a millennial.
Personally, the punishment is too short. You should be looking at about two years. Use your brain next time.
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Chaos2088✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No one made you get that of a high bounty......you did the crime, gotta pay for the time..
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Spacemonkey✭✭✭✭✭ColdHarbor, Cyrodiil, Imperial City is for you.
Just play there with that character until bounty is cleared. Still have access to all functionalities.Might be annoying trickier to go get pledges etc... thats basically it I think.
There should be no cap.1 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭postlarval wrote: »FilipeRamos96 wrote: »
Not really. You went all Rambo on a bunch of NPCs and now you’re crying like a baby because there are consequences you think are too excessive. You must be a millennial.
Personally, the punishment is too short. You should be looking at about two years. Use your brain next time.
Hey I'm a millennial too~ (I think, I was born in 1998... is that Millennial age?)
Regardless i'm young and still think the OP is being a bit unreasonable. You can't just go on a mass murder spree in a RPG and not expect the game to punish you.Edited by coop500 on February 5, 2018 5:04PMHoping for more playable races2 -
emilyhyoyeon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If the issue is that some players might not realize how slow bounty decays, then all there needs to be is one of those messages that pops up with bounty/justice system info. Honestly I have a hard time imagining that there's any person who wouldn't think having a 100k plus bounty means he's in deep ***, and instead keep racking up more bounty.IGN @ emilypumpkin
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coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭emilyhyoyeon wrote: »If the issue is that some players might not realize how slow bounty decays, then all there needs to be is one of those messages that pops up with bounty/justice system info. Honestly I have a hard time imagining that there's any person who wouldn't think having a 100k plus bounty means he's in deep ***, and instead keep racking up more bounty.
Just pay it if you can't afford the time. Stealing and murdering makes good gold, no? You should be rich.Hoping for more playable races2 -
Bax✭✭✭Hey I'm a millennial too~ (I think, I was born in 1998... is that Millennial age?)
Millennials are (according to William Strauss and Neil Howe - authors of the term) kids born in early 1980s up to early 2000s. And irony of that is that people born in 1980s broadly use the term to complain about "millenials" while in fact they are millenials themselves
Anyway, the term is obviously huge marketing BS. Someone once succeeded and made a huge money with a book where he names previous generation (was it generation X?) based on some BS stereotypes and very unreliable assumptions and connections to the historical events and that started whole the boom about how to name certain generations. It's mostly BS not worth of anyones time.Edited by Bax on February 5, 2018 5:23PM1 -
Goshua✭✭✭✭They could add more feedback about how big of a hole a NEW player is digging for themselves.
No cap. 100k for particularly a thief is nothing.
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✭✭starlizard70ub17_ESO wrote: »I guess that swiftly forgotten thieves guild passive isn't really going to help at this point.
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Do you think this thread will run out of steam before the bounty runs out tho?
She's got about 2 years of bounty there, (unless they figure out a way to make a lot of gold quickly on another character.) We could always necro this thread in July 2019 to see how far along they've gotten Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on February 5, 2018 5:33PM"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."0 -
SheepdogPaladin✭✭✭If you can't pay the fine, then don't do the crime.
It's really that simple.
Listen, I've played a couple "evil" characters and I know exactly what it's like to be subjected to Tamriel's criminal justice system. I have never had a total bounty at any given time to be over a few thousand. The reason is because it takes too much time for high to very high bounties to clear over time. As a criminal character, I believe that the authorities should never take me alive, so I never manually pay bounties on a criminal character. I always try my very best to run away when caught and let time or death clear my bounties.
If I can't pay the fine, then I don't do the crime. Period. If a player chooses on their own free will to continuously commit crimes with their evil characters, then their penalty/punishment in-game should match that.
I see no issue with the ESO criminal justice system and I strongly feel that it should not become more lenient or forgiving. As a matter of fact, I feel that a jail system should also be implemented for those player characters who are unreasonably addicted to committing crime in-game. While a character is in jail, the player cannot play that particular character until the jailed character completes his jail sentence. Again, my opinion is coming from a player who has played a couple evil characters extensively and had tons of fun playing "evil" in the Elder Scrolls Online.0 -
coop500✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭They could add more feedback about how big of a hole a NEW player is digging for themselves.
No cap. 100k for particularly a thief is nothing.
New players don't rack up this much of a bounty, if they are new anyway then deleting the character and starting over if they are so impatient will not be much of a loss.
New players have a HUGE learning curve, as we all did when we first started, how the game handles crime is the least of the new player community's worries. Stop blaming new players to get what you wantEdited by coop500 on February 5, 2018 5:38PMHoping for more playable races2 -
jaye63✭✭✭✭There's a perfectly viable method of eliminating your bounty already available in the game at literally every major city.
Pay it.
A few million gold is nothing too hard to obtain in this game. Some people make four times that per week.
Start trading.
Actually there is even easier solution. Die to guard. Afaik that removes bounty completely while not removing any gold from account.
No, it doesn't. Dying to a guard only lowers your bounty by the amount the guard takes off your corpse. If you ever died to a guard and your bounty went away, YOU LOST MONEY. If you die to a guard while having 0 gold or not enough gold to pay your bounty, the guards will keep killing you until you can afford to pay off the debt.
Money in the bank is safe from guards.
Still doesnt change the underlying theme. Get better or stop killing and stealing. Or stay in Hew's bane doing the dailies and getting writs until you can pay it off. I got a 150k bounty on purpose and it took quite a while to get. And I was in an area where there were no guards and just kept killing respawns. You cant get 1.7 MILLION in bounties by accident. Maybe 5k, but not 1.7 mil. OP is a whiner and a troll who doesnt get the mechanics of the game. He's a singular voice. Which means there's no reason to change it. I wouldnt want to change it even it he weren't a singular voice because of the challenge involved in some of the cases. And I say challenge because I dont use the invis potions and I dont use a Cat. I do it with a dark elf magplar.
He can whine all he wants to but he did it to himself.
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preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, indeed, a 1.7M bounty is not an accident .. that, I actually agree with.
Does it mean that the perpetrator should spend ages not being able to set foot in town? Ages being unable to browse guild stores to find what he need? No .. I cannot, in good faith, agree with that.
Good god, TESO is just a game, and OP is a fellow human being that deserve more than being trashed.
At least, he doesn't find his fun in the disarray of others ..
The thing is .. even with the passives, a bounty takes far, far too long to vanish ..
I don't know, maybe implementing a repeatable quest to reduce the bounty by X percent would be a nice, immersive way of solving those predicaments.
Anyway, I hope you'll be able to play normally soon, OP.3 -
jaye63✭✭✭✭Yes, indeed, a 1.7M bounty is not an accident .. that, I actually agree with.
Does it mean that the perpetrator should spend ages not being able to set foot in town? Ages being unable to browse guild stores to find what he need? No .. I cannot, in good faith, agree with that.
Good god, TESO is just a game, and OP is a fellow human being that deserve more than being trashed.
At least, he doesn't find his fun in the disarray of others ..
The thing is .. even with the passives, a bounty takes far, far too long to vanish ..
I don't know, maybe implementing a repeatable quest to reduce the bounty by X percent would be a nice, immersive way of solving those predicaments.
Anyway, I hope you'll be able to play normally soon, OP.
Your statement says he's playing one toon and doesnt have access to a personal banker. There are ways to deal. I dont feel sorry for him. Had he shown a screenshot of a 10k bounty, I would have a lot more sympathy than 1.7mil. This sats to me that he did it purposefully to come to the forums and whine about it.1 -
starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »New bounty cap:
1 billion gold.
Mwahahah.
How many looked at this ^ and thought:
Challenge Accepted!
Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on February 5, 2018 6:51PM"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."2 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I’d be okay with a bounty cap, if players could step in and stop your crimes when you hit the cap.
But we can’t. Instead we get to sit and watch as you murder and rob half the NPC’s in the city. So, no cap for you.0 -
Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Capping the bounty would be boring.
K, when I am bored I like to harass guards. But my grief is the instant-kill and "take your gold" the guards can do on you even if you are able to get away from them.
We cannot kill the guard! The instant-kill and rob that guards do must go!
Meanwhile, I will try banking my gold before going on a crime spree. (I've never tested this... I hope they don't draw from one's bank balance.)Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
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