Back in ESO after some year.... what happend

Demalb16_ESO · February 2018

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.
[edited for profanity bypass]

Greevir · February 2018

any leveling from 1-50 does NOT count towards any CP.

But yeah, welcome to the *** CP system.

Valen_Byte · February 2018

Your toon can be saved. Lets start simple. What is your race, class and do you prefer magicka or stamina classes? What weapons are you using? Do you pvp or pve?

Radinyn · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

1) Life is sad.
2) As you will make your characters stronger, mobs won't be too strong. Gold will be low, however you can get more xp from dungeons, exploration and some grind locations.
3) On 12 February build helper will enter the game

+ lvling rewards good reason to roll an alt.

Narvuntien · February 2018

1. Getting to 690 cp takes about a year and half of daily play... if you don't grind, faster if you do. There are regular bonus xp events.
2. The mobs are scaled to level 50. Cp just makes you stronger after that. You'll need to level up skills and collect skyshards to improve your character. you can collect books or kill daedra or do your undaunted dailys but they now give out daily quests that will also improve the guild skill lines.
3. They made damage scale with your highest attribute so hybrids don't work anymore. Only Tanks are hybrids, (and some PVP builds)
4. Cp is shared between characters. The max level of gear is cp 160.

Waffennacht · February 2018

You have more than enough CP to do well

You're struggling because hybrids are just NOT viable (unless you're like running a VERY specific set up and have max CP... Even then...)

Mobs, especially overland mobs, should not be a threat.

Focus as either Stam or Mag. If you need help crafting anything there are plenty of helpful people.

Again - DO NOT be a hybrid

nihirisutou · February 2018

So basically overland content is set at 160CP which can be a little bit overwhelming if you have no idea of what's going on.

CP replaced veteran ranks but is widely available for all your characters, so you say that you're CP130, if you'd make a new character you can spend those same 130CP from the get-go on the new character. Also they're account based so any level 50 character can earn new CP.

EXP is scaled to your level, so for instance if you kill a Direwolf in the gold coast at level 20 you'd get +/- 200EXP but at CP level you'd get 1.6KEXP for the same wolf.

It is recommended to choose either STAMINA or MAGICKA in your build, as your weapon/spell damage scales off of your max magicka/stamina, so you'd be limiting yourself by investing in both. Of course, you can use buffs from magicka abilities if your a STAM character as you will not use it for something else. But primarily go with the skills you like and pick the stam morph if you're a stam character and the magicka morph if you're a magicka character.

Alcast has some pretty great builds out there.

As for gold... we're all broke mate, but you'll get there. Usually improvement materials for crafting go for a lot and move fast.

Rudyard · February 2018

I am assuming you didn't hit vet levels in that first year. If so, you would have some CP credit for those vet levels. Check the CP interface if you did hit vet levels, because you can use those CP on under 50 toons.

I found your mob difficulty comment surprising. The mobs in the pre-50 zones that first year were around this difficulty. The vet level mobs in that first year were quite dangerous. Fighting a group of 3 or more normal mobs in vet zones in that first year could get you killed if you didn't know what you were doing. The difficulty level from those vet zones was vastly dumbed down.

Demalb16_ESO · February 2018

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Your toon can be saved. Lets start simple. What is your race, class and do you prefer magicka or stamina classes? What weapons are you using? Do you pvp or pve?

I have an imperial dragonknight. mx lv in "2 weapon" "2hand weapon" "sword and shild" all the class skill amxed out. 130 CP.
heavy armor. can you help me ?

Demalb16_ESO · February 2018

I would like to be able to do the questlines easily enough for that to be fun

Horowonnoe · February 2018

Use medium armor. Level bow. Use dual wield and put your points into stamina.

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Your toon can be saved. Lets start simple. What is your race, class and do you prefer magicka or stamina classes? What weapons are you using? Do you pvp or pve?

I have an imperial dragonknight. mx lv in "2 weapon" "2hand weapon" "sword and shild" all the class skill amxed out. 130 CP.
heavy armor. can you help me ?

Medium Armor, put everthing you have into stamina. Wait till cp160 to collect sets, it's the current max gear level. DW & Bow, get some AoE's and DoTs.
What server are you on?

Demalb16_ESO · February 2018

so basically I have to spend €7 to respec the character......
EU server.

Valen_Byte · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Your toon can be saved. Lets start simple. What is your race, class and do you prefer magicka or stamina classes? What weapons are you using? Do you pvp or pve?

I have an imperial dragonknight. mx lv in "2 weapon" "2hand weapon" "sword and shild" all the class skill amxed out. 130 CP.
heavy armor. can you help me ?

CP wise you are in a bit of a tough spot. You need to get to cp 160. That is the Gear lvl cap. After that you can put time and money into getting cp160 gear. I would go grind anchors. You can usualy find a group to run with, just ask in zone for an anchor/dolman group. Just focus on grindinng to 160cp for now.

Once you get to cp160 have someone craft you some gear. Doenst need to be fancy. 5pc Hundinngs rage and 3/4pc night mothers will get you through almost all overland content.

My name in game is @Valen_Byte
Send me a message in game and I will help you. I run a small guild that is focused on helping new players get up to speed. Hit me up : ))

Kel · February 2018

Try this build.
Most of the gear is from overworld or can be bought off guild traders for cheap. This video goes into detail about cp set ups and skills, so watch every second of it..multiple times if you must. Most of all, it's extremely fun to play, has a fairly simple rotation, and hits like a truck.
Welcome back to ESO!

https://youtu.be/hYIrPTepQ-g

Kiralyn2000 · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

so basically I have to spend €7 to respec the character......

Respec can be done in-game for gold. Of course, you need to get the gold first.

You've got a bunch of character slots, why not create a new character, even if only to try to learn your way around the current game, before trying to respec the old one? (but, as mentioned, there's a new "leveling reward" system coming, so maybe hold off on the new character til then.

DieAlteHexe · February 2018

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

so basically I have to spend €7 to respec the character......

Respec can be done in-game for gold. Of course, you need to get the gold first.

You've got a bunch of character slots, why not create a new character, even if only to try to learn your way around the current game, before trying to respec the old one? (but, as mentioned, there's a new "leveling reward" system coming, so maybe hold off on the new character til then.

That's what I had to do when I returned last October. I was completely lost. Created a new character, got my bearings and was able to re-spec all my other characters. I could swear it got a lot less expensive to do so.

cbro72 · February 2018

Since you already have 2hander people leveled, and are having surviabity problems. I would sugggest using the 2 hand skill brawler ( morph of carve I think). It gives a small shield with every swing and it gets bigger with every mob you hit.
Since it sounds like you want do more solo content at the moment. It is a quick skill change that can help help while you figure out all the changes.
For good dps you do want to eventually learn bow and Dw. You can put a couple of this skills on your bar while using a 2h weapon and level them at the same time.

Epona222 · February 2018

The mobs cannot possibly be too strong for you to go and collect skyshards and lorebooks, because you are scaled up to 160CP - so no ordinary mob that you meet should be beyond your capabilities.

Smmokkee · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

Nothing turns people away from eso like champ points. I was showin it to a friend recently and he saw the ranks and was instantly turned off. Doesnt matter that they are easy to get or front loaded.. he saw it as leveling up nearly 700 times and that was just wasn't interested at all anymore.

Linaleah · February 2018

mobs are scaled to cp 160. so are you, scaling doesn't turn off until you yourself hit cp 160 which takes very little time (and by little, I mean maybe a week of VERY casual play)

hybrid builds have always been weak, they are still weaker then dedicated build. gold rewards have actualy been made better. I used to have horrible time just trying to afford to feed my horse. nowadays, you can do crafting writs for gold every day, you can steal your way to quite a bit of gold, EVEN if you don't join a trading guild and start selling all kinds of stuff. my favorite place to get easy gold through stealing early on without getting caught is in Daggerfall city, glenumbra. there are 2 ships at the docks, there are no npc's inside so no one to detect you, but lots and lots of containers to loot. and the refuge with the fence is right next to the docks.

as others have suggested - you might want to look up some builds online. skyshards for skill points and leveling your skill lines was something you did in this game since it released. there is just more of them now, which gives you more skill points to play with.

which dungeons are you having trouble with? there are 3 types - delves (marked with torches on the map) that shouldn't be too difficult even early on, public dungeons (marked with rough arch) that are really meant to be done with a friend or 2, until you level up a bit and/or get more comfortable with the game and instanced dungeons that you really need to group for unless you are higher cp AND are more comfortable with the game/your class.

also, some classes are easier to play early on then others. personaly I really like this channel for short and clear overviews of how different parts of the game work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKrAjMO-DMk&list=PLI7vadcJ3qhQJE3ZKJpLkcoJKBI545TFL don't mind the first video linked, this is a playlist and you can pick and chose which guide you want to watch.

also, you do NOT need to spend any real life money to respec. it can be done with gold and at your level, it should take you maybe half an hour of stealing to get enough gold to pay for it.

P.S. honestly, old veteran levels turned me off a lot more. sure the number is 14, later 16. but it takes a while to get them and they are per character. cp goes fairly fast and its per account, so it doesn't punish you for having alts, even rewards you instead. so for me, as an altoholic, the system is much more attractive. but that's just me.

Epona222 · February 2018

Smmokkee wrote: »

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

Nothing turns people away from eso like champ points. I was showin it to a friend recently and he saw the ranks and was instantly turned off. Doesnt matter that they are easy to get or front loaded.. he saw it as leveling up nearly 700 times and that was just wasn't interested at all anymore.

Perhaps you shouldn't try to talk people into the game that way - talk instead about the awsome questing and story experience - which - I am sorry to say this - but story is something Zeni has ALWAYS put first - instead of trying to get people into endgame where you want them, try describing what the game is - a story-rich MMORPG experience.

JamuThatsWho · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

so basically I have to spend €7 to respec the character......
EU server.

Lol, no you don't. Respecs cost in-game gold at shrines in cities.

DieAlteHexe · February 2018

Epona222 wrote: »

Smmokkee wrote: »

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

Nothing turns people away from eso like champ points. I was showin it to a friend recently and he saw the ranks and was instantly turned off. Doesnt matter that they are easy to get or front loaded.. he saw it as leveling up nearly 700 times and that was just wasn't interested at all anymore.

Perhaps you shouldn't try to talk people into the game that way - talk instead about the awsome questing and story experience - which - I am sorry to say this - but story is something Zeni has ALWAYS put first - instead of trying to get people into endgame where you want them, try describing what the game is - a story-rich MMORPG experience.

Beat me to it. The folks I've talked to about the game weren't at all fussed about the "levels" but that's likely due to them being more the "journey" rather than the "destination" sorts. If one were totally into getting to cap, 700 levels does sound daunting but there's a whoooooooole lot of fun along the way.

Korah_Eaglecry · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

1.) No it really wont, I got to CP 189 in a month without any XP boosts before they removed Veteran Ranks. Since then, taking my time Im now CP 607. I could easily be higher than this and have done it months ago if I cared too.

2.) The Mobs are all CP 160, and they arent the only ones scaled. So are you and everyone else. The lower your level the more powerful you are because of the scaling. The closer you are to that CP 160 Cap for mobs, the more on equal footing you are with them. If you want a quick way to make gold and respec and buy what you want. Stealing things will be a quicker way than doing quests. Do the quests for fun, spend an hour stealing and sell anything that is a green or above item. You can easily make 8-10k gold in less than an hour on a circuit stealing from the same mobs as long as theyve been Blade of Woed when youre done.

3.) Plenty of guides out there on where the current meta is at and what youll need to do to get your build up to snuff. Yeah it sucks that you have a lot in front of you because of how long youve been away from the game. But you cant reasonably think that you can jump back into an MMO years later and just pick up where you left off without there being a learning curve.

Wifeaggro13 · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

this was ZOS answer to not increasing levels adding additional skills to the AA system and trying to extend the life of a very bad core design. GG zos id rather play the witcher insted of your Single player online lobby game.

Alcast · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

there was a dude that grinded form zero to max cap in 3 days, I would not call that a "lifetime".

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · February 2018

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

"Updates" happened

Epona222 · February 2018

Alcast wrote: »

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

there was a dude that grinded form zero to max cap in 3 days, I would not call that a "lifetime".

Provide proof, or this is just a myth

(Screenshots of achievement page with date stamps would work fine to convince me, otherwise it's smoke and mirrors

)

Alcast · February 2018

Epona222 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

there was a dude that grinded form zero to max cap in 3 days, I would not call that a "lifetime".

Provide proof, or this is just a myth

Apologies, it was 4 days.

just go youtube and type 0 to 690 Champion Points in 4 Days

Epona222 · February 2018

Alcast wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Demalb16_ESO wrote: »

I was one of the first players, bought the game and paid the subscription, had a GREAT time doing the quest and the story was good. now I thought: I'll go back, there is a lot of new contents and questline so I subscribed again and found this :
1) 690 CP???? It will take a lifetime to achive so much points.
2) The mob are scaled to (I don't know how many CP points). I tought to grind the ability that I didn't have (staves and such) and go around to collect books and skyshards but the mob are to strong to make that funn. The reward in xp/gold is ridicoulusly low for me . I can't buy the things that regular store sell to craft things. I'll need tons of time to get the point to be effective and lot of gold to respec.....
3) I am 130ish CP points and find annoying to make single player doungeon. I have an hibrid build, I don't do enough damage. don't get how the game works...

Need some help to understand how to play

do you know if xp of other carachters in your account will build up CP fron lv 1 to 50? at least I could restart with another character and enjoy the quest to make CP.

there was a dude that grinded form zero to max cap in 3 days, I would not call that a "lifetime".

Provide proof, or this is just a myth

Apologies, it was 4 days.

just go youtube and type 0 to 690 Champion Points in 4 Days

Was more like 4 and a half days, but seriously... who does that? That's insane.

You know there are quests and stories and a whole game to be played, right?

I seriously don't understand *why*? I just do not get it.