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  • badmojo
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    I would never buy crowns at full price if the day I got paid was a factor in my ESO purchases.
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  • Mureel
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    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    Dude. Put them 1st weekend of the month- problem solved for all markets.

    How can you legit say all that you just said and not see a simple conclusion?
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Mureel wrote: »
    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    Dude. Put them 1st weekend of the month- problem solved for all markets.

    How can you legit say all that you just said and not see a simple conclusion?

    Dude. Its not up to him when they release this stuff.


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  • kyle.wilson
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    1st and 15th, sounds like military pay period.

  • Rohamad_Ali
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    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    Lets be honest for a moment Edward , the limited time offers in games is purely for hype . It is not like other buisness where inventory must be cleared quickly for next season shelfing space in a physical location . That is where these promotions began . As a buisness man Ive used these promotions to help raise awareness and clear as much inventory as possible for making room necessary to stock next round product . Digitaly this form of promotion never needs to exist because there is no deprciation of consumables or lack of storage present on comsoles and pc . ZoS chooses to force sale very rare crown store items to fuel max revenue in shortest time possible and that is the only reason . An fine , buisnesses ahould always push hard for profits and success . My concern with this tactic is not what you would imagine probably . I believe ZoS makes less money doing this then actually giving customers a fair amount of time to plan and purchase . There are ways to create hype and generate more revenue then this out dated technique .
  • monktoasty
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    They should make a list of upcoming items so you can plan accordingly instead of pop up out of nowhere and say surprise you havev2vdays to buy this. At least a list will let you know on what date an item will be up and for how long. Or do they do.this already
  • Gargath
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    This isn’t the first time they’ve put something cool out when I just didn’t have the money at the moment either. It’s frustrating because it’s just so arbitrary.
    If you knew they will do it again why didn't you adapt and saved some money in pocket for next such situation. ZOS won't change for us, we have to adapt to their rules.
    Seems that living without savings is frustrating. For people with savings pay day is irrelevant :).
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Gargath wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    This isn’t the first time they’ve put something cool out when I just didn’t have the money at the moment either. It’s frustrating because it’s just so arbitrary.
    If you knew they will do it again why didn't you adapt and saved some money in pocket for next such situation. ZOS won't change for us, we have to adapt to their rules.
    Seems that living without savings is frustrating. For people with savings pay day is irrelevant :).

    I dont know anyone that saves specifically for these promotions . Doesn not mean some dont but the general consensus I run into is players feeling gouged and a little contempt for ZoS after . Anything that fuels any amount of that emotion in gaming customers is usually detrimental in the long term . Maximizing profits and keeping balance with the customers can be accomplished without ever insulting their loyalty or intelligence . Sure a fair amount will toss money no matter what but a good marketing strategist always attempts big net fishing and not harpooning a few whales that will always breach on sale day regardless .
    Edited by Rohamad_Ali on January 27, 2018 7:17PM
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  • Waffennacht
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    If only they announced before things were released when they would be...

    Wait a sec...
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  • srfrogg23
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    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    If the folks in the sales department insist on sticking with the limited time thing, it should last at least 30 days. Like you said, pay schedules vary widely from job to job. The only way to be sure that everyone can get paid within the promotion period is to ensure the promotion lasts long enough to cover all pay periods.

    I had an unexpected expense come up this pay period, but the next will be fine. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who would love to make the purchase, but won’t be able to because of the short timeframe and, well, “life happens”.
  • monktoasty
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    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    I know how to make everyone happy.keep.it up longer than 2 days so people who want it can buy it.

    And I'm not even a rocket scientist
    Edited by monktoasty on January 27, 2018 10:01PM
  • kip_silverwolf
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    monktoasty wrote: »
    They should make a list of upcoming items so you can plan accordingly instead of pop up out of nowhere and say surprise you havev2vdays to buy this. At least a list will let you know on what date an item will be up and for how long. Or do they do.this already

    On the off chance you were being serious....

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26277

    The showcase is released at the start of every month
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  • phermitgb
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    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    to be perfectly fair, the above statement isn't *entirely* true - there IS, at least, ONE way to make everyone happy...

    STOP WITH THE LIMITED TIME SALE ***!!...

    well, all right - again, to be fair - I suppose it won't make EVERYONE happy - might make some of the money-grubbers at ZOS not as happy as the money they THINK they're getting from the limited time sale...but, truth be told, I wonder if accountants have any real solid way to measure...

    amount of sales we make RIGHT NOW BUT NEVER AGAIN by forcing a limited time only sale
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    amount of sales we'll make OVER A PERIOD OF TIME if the item is on offer for whenever people feel comfortable buying it

    I mean, I'd LIKE to think that this is one of those things you go over in accounting 101 or 102...but sometimes I wonder...

    anyway, my point is...

    KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE GDAMN LIMITED TIME SALE ***!!!...

    that is all

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  • SisterGoat
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    Maybe make limited offers more than 3 days? That's such a small window.
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  • Shawn_PT
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    I am not against limited time offers. But I completely agree with those who say it should last longer. If it's 3 days only, it just means that only the people who have the crowns/cash handy during that period will get it. If it was available for the full month or even 2 weeks, the amount of people who would have access to the required crowns would be much wider, while still keeping it limited/exclusive enough.

    This Month Only!! doesn't feel like too bad a deal.
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    phermitgb wrote: »
    to be perfectly fair, the above statement isn't *entirely* true - there IS, at least, ONE way to make everyone happy...

    STOP WITH THE LIMITED TIME SALE ***!!...


    There is no lawful method to make 100% of a population happy.

    People are going to hate limited items if they can't get them. People are going to hate evergreen items if everybody else has them. People are going to hate the cost of both limited and evergreen items. Et cetera, et cetera.

    So the statement was correct. And as we are dealing with what amounts to novelty and DLC-flavored cosmetic items, it's no use worrying about them. There was something interesting in the past, there's something interesting in the present, and there will be something interesting in the future.

    But if it really means that much, spend your time on a few beer money sites rather than complaining. Because one will accomplish a short-term money goal and the other definitely won't.
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  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    Submit a ticket whenever you get paid. They might decide to be nice if you have the crowns on account.
    Edited by ThePrinceOfBargains on January 27, 2018 10:59PM
  • Mz_Jo
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    I'm on disability, so I get paid once a month, every 2nd Wednesday.
    I could complain, which would do nothing or figure out a budget.

    ZOS has made a business decision to make some crown items "Limited"

    1 I saved up for whenever crowns would go on sale.
    2 I check in on the web site for updates - Around end/beginning of month ZOS announces the upcoming crown storre month.
    3 Pop on Twitter now and then.
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  • ParaNostram
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    I think the easy solution is to stop making these limited time or if you must have them be limited time let it be a month. I mean come on. Stop tricking brains with this artificial scarcity stuff
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  • klowdy1
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    If you can't afford it this week, but you could last week, you should probably stop spending money on games until you aren't living paycheck to paycheck. It doesn't matter when something comes out, I can buy it if I want it, and I am far from rich.
  • iiYuki
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    I get paid weekly every friday, tbh these 3 and 4 day "limited time" sales are *** as it is, I think the 2 week ones are equally stupid too but at least they give you some time, especially when they're selling at 2k+ crowns, some of those limited time houses are 20k+ crowns.
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 1:22AM
  • srfrogg23
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    DoctorESO wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    If the folks in the sales department insist on sticking with the limited time thing, it should last at least 30 days. Like you said, pay schedules vary widely from job to job. The only way to be sure that everyone can get paid within the promotion period is to ensure the promotion lasts long enough to cover all pay periods.

    I had an unexpected expense come up this pay period, but the next will be fine. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who would love to make the purchase, but won’t be able to because of the short timeframe and, well, “life happens”.

    30 days might be too long to create a sense of urgency. They might not get the impulse purchases they want/need.

    Might want to try putting aside a few dollars so you have them on hand for these 3-day sales.

    I had to pay the down payment on my kid’s braces. That wasn’t a monthly expenditure or even an expected expense.

    I know how to manage my finances, thanks.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    ZOS_Edward wrote: »
    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.

    If the folks in the sales department insist on sticking with the limited time thing, it should last at least 30 days. Like you said, pay schedules vary widely from job to job. The only way to be sure that everyone can get paid within the promotion period is to ensure the promotion lasts long enough to cover all pay periods.

    I had an unexpected expense come up this pay period, but the next will be fine. I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who would love to make the purchase, but won’t be able to because of the short timeframe and, well, “life happens”.

    30 days might be too long to create a sense of urgency. They might not get the impulse purchases they want/need.

    Might want to try putting aside a few dollars so you have them on hand for these 3-day sales.

    I had to pay the down payment on my kid’s braces. That wasn’t a monthly expenditure or even an expected expense.

    I know how to manage my finances, thanks.

    A part of me wants to say, "you got your kid braces #$&+ the video game"

    Like you know, praise for doing the right thing?

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  • Dapper Dinosaur
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    Anyone that doesn't think doing limited time item events for virtual items is scummy business practice is either delusional or a greedy company stooge themselves. The best solution for Zenimax to cater to all of its consumers' needs is to simply stop being scummy. Period.
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  • SisterGoat
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    I'm dirt poor so I have to manage the money I have very carefully and prioritize. There's tons of items I want but I can't afford them. That's just how life is.
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