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Limited time timing...

srfrogg23
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Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?
Edited by srfrogg23 on January 26, 2018 11:49PM
  • Xithian
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    If your finances are that tight, perhaps you should take a pass on this one anyway...

    But yeah, limited time in general is pretty silly.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    Depends on your job. I get paid on the 2nd. My last job paid me sometime around the 22nd, depending on the month. There is no, "oh, people only get paid on these dates."
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    Xithian wrote: »
    If your finances are that tight, perhaps you should take a pass on this one anyway...

    But yeah, limited time in general is pretty silly.

    Yeah, looks like I’m going to have to. Had to make a down payment on my kid’s braces this pay period and it didn’t do my wallet any favors.

    Had this come out next pay period, it wouldn’t be an issue...
  • srfrogg23
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    Depends on your job. I get paid on the 2nd. My last job paid me sometime around the 22nd, depending on the month. There is no, "oh, people only get paid on these dates."

    Most people get paid bi-weekly, around the beginning and middle of the month. Having a limited time item for a few days during the last week of the month isn’t a good idea.
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    Do people really get paid on the 1st and 15th? Never heard of that.
  • Colecovision
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    If it’s actually important to you, put something aside and have it ready to go. There absolutely will be another limited time offer. No reason to be caught off guard.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    Depends on your job. I get paid on the 2nd. My last job paid me sometime around the 22nd, depending on the month. There is no, "oh, people only get paid on these dates."

    Most people get paid bi-weekly, around the beginning and middle of the month. Having a limited time item for a few days during the last week of the month isn’t a good idea.

    It, really, depends. As far as I can remember, I've never worked a job with a 1/15 payment schedule.
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    I get paid every 2 friday regardless of the day of the month
  • PlagueSD
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Do people really get paid on the 1st and 15th? Never heard of that.

    Active duty military does.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th


    The Department of Labor can't even make a generalization like that.

    https://www.dol.gov/whd/state/payday.htm
    signing off
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    Apparently They make more money from Impulse Buyers during Timer Sales than they do from Fiscally responsible individuals over an extended period of time... It is very User-Unfriendly and takes advantage of the layman's Bird-Brained compulsions...

    Ooh shiny! ...
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Do people really get paid on the 1st and 15th? Never heard of that.

    im 5st and 20th
    Edited by magictucktuck on January 27, 2018 2:15AM
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  • srfrogg23
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    Whatever. The point is that the limited time crap needs to go. I absolutely would have bought that crow polymorph if they weren’t so effing impatient with their marketing tactics.
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    I still can't believe I missed the elk mount. The one thing I wanted to throw a fistful of money at. Aside from @MissBizz singing karaoke in a dirndl, I suppose.
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    This is why I stock up during Crown Sales. The end result is that I almost always have enough crowns lying around for purchases bigger than what I was expecting and because of the sale, i ultimately pay less for it.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    They just are pushing it before the next DLC - as with the outfighting system out there these polymorfs will be of no good.
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    They just are pushing it before the next DLC - as with the outfighting system out there these polymorfs will be of no good.

    They'll be of use to the people who like it. Not everyone cares about the outfit system. I'll still be looking out for new costumes personally.
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    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Didgerion wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    They just are pushing it before the next DLC - as with the outfighting system out there these polymorfs will be of no good.

    They'll be of use to the people who like it. Not everyone cares about the outfit system. I'll still be looking out for new costumes personally.

    Oh you didn't see what looks can players pull out on PTS server - that polymorth is a joke in comparison.

    There still will be players who will buy it - but very few of them.
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    If they are doing this, they earn more money this way. They wouldn't just loose money for no reason.
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    I may be wrong but I thought it was pretty much only in the USA that people still got paid bi-weekly and in most places it's monthly.

    Even when I was working part-time retail jobs I was paid monthly. Usually around the end of the month, but the day varied (sometimes it was the last working day, sometimes the last Friday, sometimes a fixed date). The job I'm in now pays on the 15th which I find a bit odd, but it's ok.

    But regardless of when you're paid I agree that if you cannot afford this until the next payday - whether that's because you literally don't have enough money left or because you need the money for other things - you probably shouldn't be buying it at all. I can't find any info on how much it costs (or much mention of it at all, which is odd) and I can't get in-game yet but I doubt even ZOS would charge so much for a polymorph that most people would have to save up to get it. A virtual house sure, but not just a polymorph.
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 1:19AM
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    Do people really get paid on the 1st and 15th? Never heard of that.

    Active duty military does.

    I was just gonna say the same.
    Radiance wrote: »
    Apparently They make more money from Impulse Buyers during Timer Sales than they do from Fiscally responsible individuals over an extended period of time... It is very User-Unfriendly and takes advantage of the layman's Bird-Brained compulsions...

    Ooh shiny! ...

    Bird brained.....ooh shiny.....CROW POLY!!!ONE!

    I'm dying xD
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    Mureel wrote: »
    PlagueSD wrote: »
    Runefang wrote: »
    Do people really get paid on the 1st and 15th? Never heard of that.

    Active duty military does.

    I was just gonna say the same.
    Radiance wrote: »
    Apparently They make more money from Impulse Buyers during Timer Sales than they do from Fiscally responsible individuals over an extended period of time... It is very User-Unfriendly and takes advantage of the layman's Bird-Brained compulsions...

    Ooh shiny! ...

    Bird brained.....ooh shiny.....CROW POLY!!!ONE!

    I'm dying xD

    Well, yeah, lol. I want to spend the money on the cosmetic shiny. They keep sabotaging me with their crappy “strategy” though.

    This isn’t the first time they’ve put something cool out when I just didn’t have the money at the moment either. It’s frustrating because it’s just so arbitrary.
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    DoctorESO wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    It's just like any other limited-time sale. I don't think they need these sales to make payroll.

    I’m not talking about their payroll. I’m talking about mine. I want to give them my money for the stuff that looks cool, but their timing sucks.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    It's just like any other limited-time sale. I don't think they need these sales to make payroll.

    I’m not talking about their payroll. I’m talking about mine. I want to give them my money for the stuff that looks cool, but their timing sucks.

    And as for the comment someone made about if you can't afford it blah blah - well a lot of us make a budget for things and sure we could spend the money anyway but things that were planned early in the month or a few months beforehand are priority. If they would do limited time things the first of the month, a lot more people could work that into their monthly budget. The week before most salaried folks' payday though, is a bit silly. Like I myself bought 14 bottles of mead. I didn't need the money for other things but I could have bought the mead next month for an event we have coming up, if I'd known...if I wanted the crow thing that is...I don't so whatever for me - but disposable income is also often allocated by a week before payday.
    Edited by Mureel on January 27, 2018 1:04PM
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I may be wrong but I thought it was pretty much only in the USA that people still got paid bi-weekly and in most places it's monthly.

    Here in Oz it's mostly weekly, though some do get paid fornightly. The first time I'd heard of monthly pays was from a friend in the UK a few years ago!


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    Mureel wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    It's just like any other limited-time sale. I don't think they need these sales to make payroll.

    I’m not talking about their payroll. I’m talking about mine. I want to give them my money for the stuff that looks cool, but their timing sucks.

    And as for the comment someone made about if you can't afford it blah blah - well a lot of us make a budget for things and sure we could spend the money anyway but things that were planned early in the month or a few months beforehand are priority. If they would do limited time things the first of the month, a lot more people could work that into their monthly budget. The week before most salaried folks' payday though, is a bit silly. Like I myself bought 14 bottles of mead. I didn't need the money for other things but I could have bought the mead next month for an event we have coming up, if I'd known...if I wanted the crow thing that is...I don't so whatever for me - but disposable income is also often allocated by a week before payday.

    In that case I recommend looking out for the Crown Store Showcase articles that come out around the beginning of each month. That tells you what's going to be in the crown store and when throughout the month. It doesn't include prices, but for most things we can make a pretty accurate guess based on similar items that have been released before (for example a costume will be 500-1000 crowns and a mount 1000-3000 depending partially on if it has any special effects).

    I find reading the showcase articles also help curb the impulse buy effect of limited time sales (although I doubt that's ZOS's intention). I get the initial "Wow, that's so cool, I must have it!" moment reading the article, which could be days or weeks before the item is released, and can spend the time in between thinking about whether I actually want it, how much I'd be willing to pay and what might influence my decision. (For example I wanted to check how the Jarls costume dyed before buying because I don't like the colours or the stripes.) Then when it's released I can check those things and make a more sensible decision.
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  • Mureel
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    DoctorESO wrote: »
    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    It's just like any other limited-time sale. I don't think they need these sales to make payroll.

    I’m not talking about their payroll. I’m talking about mine. I want to give them my money for the stuff that looks cool, but their timing sucks.

    And as for the comment someone made about if you can't afford it blah blah - well a lot of us make a budget for things and sure we could spend the money anyway but things that were planned early in the month or a few months beforehand are priority. If they would do limited time things the first of the month, a lot more people could work that into their monthly budget. The week before most salaried folks' payday though, is a bit silly. Like I myself bought 14 bottles of mead. I didn't need the money for other things but I could have bought the mead next month for an event we have coming up, if I'd known...if I wanted the crow thing that is...I don't so whatever for me - but disposable income is also often allocated by a week before payday.

    In that case I recommend looking out for the Crown Store Showcase articles that come out around the beginning of each month. That tells you what's going to be in the crown store and when throughout the month. It doesn't include prices, but for most things we can make a pretty accurate guess based on similar items that have been released before (for example a costume will be 500-1000 crowns and a mount 1000-3000 depending partially on if it has any special effects).

    I find reading the showcase articles also help curb the impulse buy effect of limited time sales (although I doubt that's ZOS's intention). I get the initial "Wow, that's so cool, I must have it!" moment reading the article, which could be days or weeks before the item is released, and can spend the time in between thinking about whether I actually want it, how much I'd be willing to pay and what might influence my decision. (For example I wanted to check how the Jarls costume dyed before buying because I don't like the colours or the stripes.) Then when it's released I can check those things and make a more sensible decision.

    Yeah I agree with that too, but your post as true and sensible as it does doesn't negate the fact that last weekend before payday is a bit of a silly time to list limited time items, regardless of any logic with regard to planning, keeping up to date as possible using the posted info, etc.
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    srfrogg23 wrote: »
    Hey Zos, payday is the 1st and 15th. Your limiting time BS for the crow polymorph ends right before payday.

    Did you think this through, or do you just throw darts at a calendar?

    They actually do throw darts at a calendar :smiley:
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on January 27, 2018 6:24PM
  • ZOS_Edward
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    Hey @srfrogg23

    I completely understand your frustration with this offer ending right before you get paid. Unfortunately, this is a situation where it's difficult, if not impossible, to make everyone happy for the reasons many have stated in this discussion already.
    Specifically, people have wildly different pay schedules depending on who their employer is and how that employer chooses to set their pay schedules.

    Personally, I've worked jobs that pay weekly, bi-weekly, 1st/15th, once a month, and only upon contract completion and there's probably still a few variants I've never had to deal with. The point being, we'd love to make everyone happy all the time, but we accept that is not always possible and don't hold back offers because of it.
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