Copying another player's @ name using different variations of lower case L and capital i

Voxicity · January 2018

So it is possible (as far as I'm aware) to use some variation of capital i and lower case L (l and I) to copy another person's account name if it is in block caps. This has been done by a player in game and reported (not naming anyone) and the person is still playing the game like nothing happened, after like 2 weeks+

Is this not classed as impersonating another player? Or is it acceptable? I would have thought it was against the rules but maybe I'm mistaken...

Also sorry if this thread isn't allowed for discussing disciplinary actions or something. I was just curious if I'm missing something

Voxicity · January 2018

ILIKECHEESE (capital i)
lLIKECHEESE (lower case L)

^ basically like that but in game (made up name obviously)

starkerealm · January 2018

This is a fairly unusual situation. Another classic trick is to swap out the Os for 0s, but that only works if the O is capitalized.

Anyway, if you're seeing someone who's impersonating you, and harassing people, report them. Be sure to make special note of their name in the report, and how it's suspiciously close to yours. If you're seeing someone impersonating someone else, there might not be much you can do.

I mean, in over a decade of playing MMOs, I've seen this happen maybe twice. So, it's not exactly a common situation.

MaddPowered · January 2018

Maybe it is just a coincidence that they have the same name as you? I wouldn't automatically assume they are copying / impersonating you.

Voxicity · January 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

This is a fairly unusual situation. Another classic trick is to swap out the Os for 0s, but that only works if the O is capitalized.

Anyway, if you're seeing someone who's impersonating you, and harassing people, report them. Be sure to make special note of their name in the report, and how it's suspiciously close to yours. If you're seeing someone impersonating someone else, there might not be much you can do.

I mean, in over a decade of playing MMOs, I've seen this happen maybe twice. So, it's not exactly a common situation.

It's not myself they are impersonating. And they were reported with all the right information to look into it. The player had a different @ name before (so most likely used the account name change service ZOS offers via support) so it wouldn't even be that difficult for them to verify that they are impersonating. I'm not even bothered about them doing it, it just struck me seeing them still walking around like nothing happened. I dunno

Voxicity · January 2018

MaddPowered wrote: »

Maybe it is just a coincidence that they have the same name as you? I wouldn't automatically assume they are copying / impersonating you.

It's not me. I cannot give any more information about who or what. But I know what's happening. Just don't wanna risk naming and shaming

JamieAubrey · January 2018

I've spotted a Deltia's Gaming on EU when Deltia plays on NA, I've also spotted a SypherAli

Voxicity · January 2018

JamieAubrey wrote: »

I've spotted a Deltia's Gaming on EU when Deltia plays on NA, I've also spotted a SypherAli

Yeah me too. Neither of those are the one I'm referring to but I've definitely seen a Deltia's Gaming. No idea if they're still around with that @ name though

BlazingDynamo · January 2018

I've seen this on ps4 na recently. Zone chat is flooded with scum spamming it saying they'll buy all sorts of mats like potent and corn flower for really low prices "COD FOR INSTANT PAYMENT". One of them actually took the name of a rather respected player and tried to make it look like she was the one buying low. I would assume in hopes people would sell to them thinking it was the real person.

Odd scenario but it happens.

Voxicity · January 2018

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

I've seen this on ps4 na recently. Zone chat is flooded with scum spamming it saying they'll buy all sorts of mats like potent and corn flower for really low prices "COD FOR INSTANT PAYMENT". One of them actually took the name of a rather respected player and tried to make it look like she was the one buying low. I would assume in hopes people would sell to them thinking it was the real person.

Odd scenario but it happens.

That sucks. I find it strange that ZOS picked a font which the capital i and lower L look identical. It allows scammers or people who want to cause 'harm' to another player the perfect method of doing so. I've actually seen it done quite a lot in other MMO's

What baffles me the most though is that reporting said impersonator seems to have no effect in ESO

SydneyGrey · January 2018

Could just be coincidence, I suppose.
Like how I wanted a particular name for my nightblade, and chose a weird name that I didn't think anyone else would have thought of ... only the name was already taken.

Voxicity · January 2018

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Could just be coincidence, I suppose.
Like how I wanted a particular name for my nightblade, and chose a weird name that I didn't think anyone else would have thought of ... only the name was already taken.

It is not a coincidence. It is a player who is doing it in an ironic way in order to try and effect the other player. I cannot disclose anything else but it is 100% NOT a coincidence. I'm not quite that stupid

BohnT · January 2018

Don't be sad you can always distinguish them from one another by looking how many different skills they use

SydneyGrey · January 2018

Voxicity wrote: »

It is not a coincidence. It is a player who is doing it in an ironic way in order to try and effect the other player. I cannot disclose anything else but it is 100% NOT a coincidence. I'm not quite that stupid

Ok. Geez. Holy crap. Calm down. Wasn't attacking you. Here, have a cookie.

Mureel · January 2018

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

It is not a coincidence. It is a player who is doing it in an ironic way in order to try and effect the other player. I cannot disclose anything else but it is 100% NOT a coincidence. I'm not quite that stupid

Ok. Geez. Holy crap. Calm down. Wasn't attacking you. Here, have a cookie.

I think he was pretty calm.

smh at people who say calm down when they themselves have used 2 expletives, a calm down and some snark in one line in reply to plain, non-emotive statements.

Acrolas · January 2018

ZOS would care if you were using the name of an entertainer, representative, or other high-profile individual as your own personal account name, as that would be grounds for impersonation. But as it's clearly stated that ZOS owns all account and character names, as well as the account itself, you can't lay any ownership claim if somebody's using an account name similar or nearly identical to your own.

Voxicity wrote: »

(so most likely used the account name change service ZOS offers via support)

You can edit your account info, including the account name, in your account settings. No support needed.
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/

SydneyGrey · January 2018

Mureel wrote: »

smh at people who say calm down when they themselves have used 2 expletives, a calm down and some snark in one line in reply to plain, non-emotive statements.

Two expletives? In what universe did I use two expletives? Some snark, yes.
I'm sorry you're so delicate you can't handle someone saying "holy crap." I wasn't even directing it at you. Dang, people. Just attack me for no reason at all, ok?

Oh, no. I used another expletive. I said "dang." I'll go wash my mouth out with soap.
Leaving the thread now. I won't be coming back to see your reply. If I want to be abused over trivial nonsense, I'll just hang out at my old junior high school.

IxSTALKERxI · January 2018

I've actually had this happen to me before in another game lmao. The i's and l's looked the same and someone made a name identical to mine and impersonated me and starting saying things in chat to start conflict with other people.

Pheefs · January 2018

No its not against the rules, because too many of us have legitimate similarities from our fandoms & whatnots.

& if they are doing it deliberately to impersonate another player, intent is a big factor.
when they are doing it to scam people & get up to shady deeds, the scam & shady deeds are the thing they are in trouble for...
but if its for humor as a "prank" on the other player, where is the harm?

Suppose I should admit that we do this in SL as a prank, all show up in the same avatar as someone or all show up with the same "display name" as them.

maxjapank · January 2018

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

I've actually had this happen to me before in another game lmao. The i's and l's looked the same and someone made a name identical to mine and impersonated me and starting saying things in chat to start conflict with other people.

You have a "stalker"

phaneub17_ESO · January 2018

Don't have letters that look like other letters!

yodased · January 2018

Tos says famous people, political or historical figures can't be used. Someone making y0dased to mess with ppl who know me may be code of conduct violation, but not inherently against the rules. Intent matters here more than other situations.

LordSemaj · January 2018

yodased wrote: »

Tos says famous people, political or historical figures can't be used. Someone making y0dased to mess with ppl who know me may be code of conduct violation, but not inherently against the rules. Intent matters here more than other situations.

But what if you're a super famous youtuber with millions of subscribers?

yodased · January 2018

@LordSemaj More than likely you are not playing eso and are stressing about content i.d.

Voxicity · January 2018

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

It is not a coincidence. It is a player who is doing it in an ironic way in order to try and effect the other player. I cannot disclose anything else but it is 100% NOT a coincidence. I'm not quite that stupid

Ok. Geez. Holy crap. Calm down. Wasn't attacking you. Here, have a cookie.

@SydneyGrey Thank you for the cookie.

Illurian · January 2018

This is tangential, but I've had people think my username is LLLURIAN (lllurian in lower case).

Shad0wfire99 · January 2018

There are probably about 6 different variations of @Alcast on XBox NA. People do the same thing with guilds/tabbards. Eh, whatever.

Nocturnal_Annoyance · January 2018

On PS4 NA, there was a scammer who created a very similar name (an extra 'h' or something) to look like one of the leaderboard players and proceeded to scam people by saying they were selling vMoL carries.

failkiwib16_ESO · January 2018

Some of the most popular names and variations of those names that I've observed in ESO are:

Drizzt Do'Urden
Artemis Entreri
Daenerys Targaryen
Cersei Lannister
Dracarys
Hlaalu
Dagoth
Redoran
Telvani
Sadras
Indoril
Dres
Tribunal
Nerevarine
Molag Bal
Dragonblood
Dragonheart
Dragonfire
Fus Ro Dah
Dovahkiin
Shadowpaws
Shadowclaws
Pact/Dominion/Covernant Mage/Guard
Trump

..many of my friends changed/ gave their account/characters similar names of their friends, for the sake of an intern joke and fun - not to copy and discredit the other person. This happens more frequently on Discord, because it's faster and doesn't cost you money, but I've seen it in ESO too. A friend of mine named one of his mules after my main character, and another friend named his characters in a different game after me and my friends in ESO.

I'm not saying that people don't do this to discredit or *** someone off, of course some people do - just take into consideration before you judge someone too harsh, that it might be because of other reasons too.

Alcast · January 2018

@Voxicity ZOS does not care. I had several cases where ppl stole my Name on other servers and spammed stupid and offensive comments in the zone chat (One Impersonater even admited it to me) and ZOS did not do anything.

All you can do is open up a new account and save all the similar looking names.

Kozato · January 2018

This is absurd. Just because someone made a variation of the name you chose doesn't mean they're out to copy you as a person. Everyone has had the "your username is taken" pop up at some point and have just got a way around it. This seems childish. If they happen to like a name similar to yours, looks like you'll have to deal with it, or find another name no one would think of so you can't get hurt.