The Problem with Shieldbreaker

Gnozo · January 2018

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Inarre · January 2018

Is this a nerf sorc thread in disguise

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · January 2018

I don't understand how come all those "gear problems" and people post them on forums...they all come from under lvl 50 characters???? are you serious? all pvp suffers greatly cuz some people don't know how to play and counter stuff...let alone they are under leveled... however if you tell me u were on CP campaign playing with a cp cap character and a lvl 32 demolished you... ok brb laughing.

Apache_Kid · January 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

Peekachu99 · January 2018

Most Sorcs heal that in crit surge/ the other morph I can’t remember per second in PVP. That’s before Resto staff abilities or wards, which are usually on the backbar.

Tan9oSuccka · January 2018

It’s already balanced. What if that user runs into a heavy armor DK or NB with out a shield? They will probably die. For some, it’s worth it to smack around a shield stacker.

Sometimes your the hammer.....sometimes your the nail.

Feanor · January 2018

Seeing that certain Grand Overlord run SB and Skoria is just sad.

Biro123 · January 2018

Inarre wrote: »

Is this a nerf sorc thread in disguise

There was a Mages Wrath in the death recap - so, yes!

technohic · January 2018

Its 2100 damage a hit there. I personally think its a waste

reesenorman · January 2018

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand how come all those "gear problems" and people post them on forums...they all come from under lvl 50 characters???? are you serious? all pvp suffers greatly cuz some people don't know how to play and counter stuff...let alone they are under leveled... however if you tell me u were on CP campaign playing with a cp cap character and a lvl 32 demolished you... ok brb laughing.

That's the alliance rank, not character level you reject.

Saint_Bud · January 2018

Pls ZOS bring the originall dk wings back, so sorc can stop crying about shildbreaker.

Zer0oo · January 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

The AD hero himself killed you.

Everyone know it is not balanced but ppl like easy kills and just using this set instead of cheat engine is simply easier.

BTW It does not really put you at a disadvantage like some other potato always like to say since it has actually quite good stats and some ppl just equip it if they see sorcs or just pick to fight sorcs.
You can read all this discussion somewhere on the pvp threads and this set will not be changed with the same devs in charge.

Feanor · January 2018

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

Except that argument was and is always just sand in the eyes the moment group play comes into the equation. Yes, the person running Shieldbreaker solo had to deal with the disadvantages. But if you’re running Shieldbreaker solo you’re doing it entirely wrong. It’s players hiding in their Zerg who enjoy blowing up shield users with the set. The group negates all disadvantages the set could ever have, instead you just can enjoy the free kills. Skilled gameplay.

Sanctum74 · January 2018

A quick forum search on shield breaker will bring up hundreds if not thousands of comments about all of the working counters to shield breaker. Use them or don't use them, you have choices.

Apache_Kid · January 2018

Feanor wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

Except that argument was and is always just sand in the eyes the moment group play comes into the equation. Yes, the person running Shieldbreaker solo had to deal with the disadvantages. But if you’re running Shieldbreaker solo you’re doing it entirely wrong. It’s players hiding in their Zerg who enjoy blowing up shield users with the set. The group negates all disadvantages the set could ever have, instead you just can enjoy the free kills. Skilled gameplay.

If you're running into a group of people where someone is running shield-breaker by yourself then you're doing it entirely wrong. If you are with your own group then you should support and a healer with you. Seemed like in the death re-cap that OP was being hit with 2.1k dmg ticks by the set. So either OP was running around alone and encountered this person 1 on 1 or engaged the set user's group in order to try and 1vX and got beat or OP was in a group with no/or bad healer that engaged the other group with the player wearing the set and received no support. This is all about sorcs feeling sad when to go try to 1vX a group and discover one of the players has a direct counter to their ridiculous tankiness.

Biro123 · January 2018

Sanctum74 wrote: »

A quick forum search on shield breaker will bring up hundreds if not thousands of comments about all of the working counters to shield breaker. Use them or don't use them, you have choices.

Except none of them work anywhere outside of a 1v1 - apart from resto ult - which only bays you time to run away.... Yay, counters!!

And fights involving SB are NEVER 1v1s

ValkynSketha · January 2018

STOP CRYING FOR NERFS.

Biro123 · January 2018

ValkynSketha wrote: »

STOP CRYING FOR NERFS.

^^ SB-using potato

Feanor · January 2018

This is all about sorcs feeling sad when to go try to 1vX a group and discover one of the players has a direct counter to their ridiculous tankiness.

No it’s about hard counters being generally bad game design and Shieldbreaker being a crutch set that enables bad players to get free kills. Seeing the words “ridiculous tankiness” attached to the Sorc of all classes is highly entertaining.

Radinyn · January 2018

BIG BOSS IS HERE

Lexxypwns · January 2018

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

It also puts you at a direct disadvantage against anyone who runs shields and isn't a mag sorc. Mageblade and warden both have enough native healing to brush off shieldbreaker.

It's literally only useful against mag sorcs who also invest nothing at all into healing. Imo, dying to shieldbreaker is a build and skill issue for sure. First off, shieldbreaker has a very obvious audio cue. If you hear the plinking noise of shieldbreaker proc'ing you must immediately seek LoS OR pop a lingering health pot. What you do from there depends on if you had a lingering pot, with the pot active you can seek the shieldbreaker user and kill them. If you didn't have a pot then you need to maintain LoS while identifying and killing the shieldbreaker user.

Or you could just find a way to fit some healing in your build, its not like you don't have 3 bars to figure out where to slot skills.

Shieldbreaker is a bad set, but dying to it is almost always your fault. The noise is too obvious and if you're getting it proc'ed on you 5+ times like we see in this recap then you're just not playing smart.

Sanctum74 · January 2018

Biro123 wrote: »

Sanctum74 wrote: »

A quick forum search on shield breaker will bring up hundreds if not thousands of comments about all of the working counters to shield breaker. Use them or don't use them, you have choices.

Except none of them work anywhere outside of a 1v1 - apart from resto ult - which only bays you time to run away.... Yay, counters!!

And fights involving SB are NEVER 1v1s

Hmmm not sure why the counters work for everyone else that uses them and not you and op. If your getting zerged down then it doesn't matter what skill their using, you're gonna die unless you use los. You also have burst heals, hot's, block, stop shielding, apply pressure/cc them, and more importantly don't make a build that only relies on one form of defense and expect that you will never die especially when out numbered.

Apache_Kid · January 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

It also puts you at a direct disadvantage against anyone who runs shields and isn't a mag sorc. Mageblade and warden both have enough native healing to brush off shieldbreaker.

It's literally only useful against mag sorcs who also invest nothing at all into healing. Imo, dying to shieldbreaker is a build and skill issue for sure. First off, shieldbreaker has a very obvious audio cue. If you hear the plinking noise of shieldbreaker proc'ing you must immediately seek LoS OR pop a lingering health pot. What you do from there depends on if you had a lingering pot, with the pot active you can seek the shieldbreaker user and kill them. If you didn't have a pot then you need to maintain LoS while identifying and killing the shieldbreaker user.

Or you could just find a way to fit some healing in your build, its not like you don't have 3 bars to figure out where to slot skills.

Shieldbreaker is a bad set, but dying to it is almost always your fault. The noise is too obvious and if you're getting it proc'ed on you 5+ times like we see in this recap then you're just not playing smart.

Yes exactly. If you are dying to continuous 2.1k ticks off of it like in the picture OP posted then you have absolutely no healing in the form of self or group. Thanks for putting this better than I could.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · January 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Ummm a No, maybe you should rethink your playstyle, add some heavy armor, use a resto staff for the back bar, add some health..

the set was made to deal with and kill shield stackers

Biro123 · January 2018

The single biggest problem is identifying them. Bow light-attacks are probably the hardest thing to see in-game - not to mention there may be more than one opponent using a bow - which one has sb?
You cannot LoS someone when you don't know who it is that you need to LoS. Same for CC-ing/pressuring them.

I've said a few times on other threads, the main thing the set needs is an obvious visual indicator of who is using it.

ParaNostram · January 2018

Yeah well if you're running shield breaker you're running a build that only functions against people who use shields sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't worry they get their butts handed to them by literally everyone else

Gnozo · January 2018

Sanctum74 wrote: »

A quick forum search on shield breaker will bring up hundreds if not thousands of comments about all of the working counters to shield breaker. Use them or don't use them, you have choices.

I can´t find anything to counter if you are solo or in a smal group without a healbot. On a sorc, your healing comes from healing ward, wich is a shield and the initial heal from it is like 1-2k. So you can´t outheal it. You can use dark deal wich also heals but for example. If you are fighting 2 player solo. 1 is using shieldbreaker.

1. You need your shield against the other dude who focus you.
2. When you use shield you get INSANE dmg from the shieldbreaker user.

This is basicly rip. And it should not be like this. PvP should be a place where the skill and only the skill defines if you win or not. Not by some bs sets that do the dmg for you like shieldbreaker, skoria, selene, velidreth and the upcoming zaan.

I just find it frustrating that ppl who don´t want to learn the game and the mechanics are giving these kind of sets to compensate. Its like a shooter where ppl who don´t want to learn get a free aimbot so they only need to press fire.

ESO´s PvP is dominated by zergs and Zenimax just removing any counterplay to zergs. From my exp every zerg has a shieldbreaker, 20+ earthgores or how this monster set is called and 15 destro ultimates.

Try to burst a zerg? Nah, they have earthgore wich will save them all
Kite a zerg? Nah they have shieldbreaker
Tank a Zerg? Nah they have unblockable destro

I can go on at this forever cause in the current state of the game + the latency in prime time there is no competitve pvp wich is just sad for this great game with really good combat system.

Feanor · January 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

It also puts you at a direct disadvantage against anyone who runs shields and isn't a mag sorc. Mageblade and warden both have enough native healing to brush off shieldbreaker.

It's literally only useful against mag sorcs who also invest nothing at all into healing. Imo, dying to shieldbreaker is a build and skill issue for sure. First off, shieldbreaker has a very obvious audio cue. If you hear the plinking noise of shieldbreaker proc'ing you must immediately seek LoS OR pop a lingering health pot. What you do from there depends on if you had a lingering pot, with the pot active you can seek the shieldbreaker user and kill them. If you didn't have a pot then you need to maintain LoS while identifying and killing the shieldbreaker user.

Or you could just find a way to fit some healing in your build, its not like you don't have 3 bars to figure out where to slot skills.

Shieldbreaker is a bad set, but dying to it is almost always your fault. The noise is too obvious and if you're getting it proc'ed on you 5+ times like we see in this recap then you're just not playing smart.

So, essentially, you’re saying it’s running combat prayer and draining your Magicka, block and drain the already scarce Stamina, having a Resto Ult up, a specific pot not on cooldown, growing a tree so you can LoS, or play a pet build.

But if dying to SB is always the fault of the target as you say, then the set probably needs a buff. It isn’t doing it’s job of obliterating those filthy shield stackers then.

BohnT · January 2018

BuT tHeRE aRe CoUnTeRS tO sHiElDbReAkER

Everyone who played a build that utilities shields knows how unbalanced that set is people defending it simply haven't fought it, a long time ago i thought the same how bad SB actually is and that people dying to it simply need to L2P but this doesn't work here.
It's like soultrap breaking cloak on each tick, undodgeable single target birds, 70% defiles, poisons. When you face either of those they completely remove 1 of your main defence and completely negating defence with no counterplay to negate this hardcounter is bad game design.

This set has to go along with oblivion damage in general, poisons, skoria offering too much unavoidable damage etc

Lexxypwns · January 2018

Feanor wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Gnozo wrote: »

Hey guys,

i know this has been discussed many times but just look this:

This is 100% not balanced. Doing 2.1k dmg with shields up JUST by spamming light attacks with bow or inferno staff is really really not balanced. Put a CD on it or just make it proc only on heavy attacks. This requires 0 skill and is completly destroying magicka sorc cause we need the shields to stay alive. Rework Shieldbreaker. At its current state its just broken.

And before any of the comments comes like "remove shield stack" "put CD on shields". It requires actually a lot of work and practice to be good at shieldstacking and if you cant kill a sorc who is decent at shieldstacking you should probably rethink your build and playstyle.

Magicka Sorc is a class wich needs to be practiced a lot to be good at and its just bs that this no brain counter even exist in this game. Zenimax, since you like nerf pls take a look at shieldbreaker and these pictues i postet. This is just broken

Seems like many people are already re-thinking their build and using shield-breaker.

You can't be mad because there is a hard counter to your play-style. Using this set is a trade-off because it puts you at a direct disadvantage when fighting any target who does not use damage shields. That's balanced. You can be somewhat effective against everything or super effective against one specific thing. That creates diversity when people choose to build to counter against other builds.

It also puts you at a direct disadvantage against anyone who runs shields and isn't a mag sorc. Mageblade and warden both have enough native healing to brush off shieldbreaker.

It's literally only useful against mag sorcs who also invest nothing at all into healing. Imo, dying to shieldbreaker is a build and skill issue for sure. First off, shieldbreaker has a very obvious audio cue. If you hear the plinking noise of shieldbreaker proc'ing you must immediately seek LoS OR pop a lingering health pot. What you do from there depends on if you had a lingering pot, with the pot active you can seek the shieldbreaker user and kill them. If you didn't have a pot then you need to maintain LoS while identifying and killing the shieldbreaker user.

Or you could just find a way to fit some healing in your build, its not like you don't have 3 bars to figure out where to slot skills.

Shieldbreaker is a bad set, but dying to it is almost always your fault. The noise is too obvious and if you're getting it proc'ed on you 5+ times like we see in this recap then you're just not playing smart.

So, essentially, you’re saying it’s running combat prayer and draining your Magicka, block and drain the already scarce Stamina, having a Resto Ult up, a specific pot not on cooldown, growing a tree so you can LoS, or play a pet build.

But if dying to SB is always the fault of the target as you say, then the set probably needs a buff. It isn’t doing it’s job of obliterating those filthy shield stackers then.

Emotional much?

First, block is irrelevant against shieldbreaker because its oblivion damage. Second, as a solo sorc positioning is your most important tool, because shield stacking is already quite inadequate as a defensive mechanic in an outnumbered situation, without LoS you're gonna be forced to shield stack and never be able to go offensive anyway.

You realize that lingering pots have 100% uptime? You realize that rapid regen shuts this set down totally and is available at something like 70% uptime without needing a skill slot on mag sorc if you just choose the non-offensive resto ult? Nah, you don't want to make meaningful build decisions to be prepared for every situation, you'd rather build to mash potatoes and complain when one of the potatoes dedicates a whole 5pc to trying to kill you

Mag sorc has a lot of problems, particularly the fact that they can't consistently do threatening damage to competent players alone, but if you're dying to shieldbreaker its definitely a build or positioning issue.

Gnozo · January 2018

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Ummm a No, maybe you should rethink your playstyle, add some heavy armor, use a resto staff for the back bar, add some health..

the set was made to deal with and kill shield stackers

So you are telling me to slot heavy armor on a magicka sorc and stack into health?
-Rip damage
-Rip sustain
-Rip Light armor shield
-Rip magicka for damage and shields and sustain

I bet when you join pvp you write "lfg" to zone chat right? You have >>abolutly<< 0 idea about pvp aside from joining a 20+ ppl zerg.