Runspeed sets?

Everstorm · January 2018

I now have Coward's gear + Fiord's Legacy. Would Coward's gear + Jailbreaker be faster (and thus worth the farm)?

Coward's gear: (5 items) While Sprinting you gain Major Expedition and Major Protection, increasing your Movement Speed and reducing your damage taken by 30%.
Fiord's Legacy: (5 items) Reduces the cost and increases the Movement Speed bonus of Sprint by 15%.
Jailbreaker: (5 items) Gain Minor Expedition at all times, increasing your Movement Speed by 10%.

AardvarkChips · January 2018

I haven't got enough jailbreaker to try yet, but I have tried cowards, with and without fiord's and noticed no difference. This was very unscientifically tested, by running between two points, timing with an analog watch, equipping the fiord's and running back. Noticed no speed difference. I don't know if major and minor expedition will stack, but as soon as I can farm up some jailbreaker, I'll let you know.

James-Wayne · January 2018

Everstorm wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

You can no longer increase your total Movement Speed bonus to more than 100% of your base Movement Speed.

How much does sprint normally boost?

40%

The calculation is:
Sprint = Base*(100% + 40% + Set + Buff + Skill + Mundus*Divines)*(1 + CP)
Mount = Base*(100% + 45% + MountSpeedBonus + Skill + CP)*(1 + Set + Buff)

You can find some test data here: Link

Everstorm · January 2018

Hmmm, guess I'll do some testing too on that.

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

There is a difference, esp when it comes to resources. It's minor, but it's there.

15% sprint on Fiords will trump the 10% always-on on Jailbreaker in longer distances, plus you can run longer because of lowered cost.

I tested both via one hell of a track around Daggerfall.

Pick a starting spot, go until you run out of resources w JB combo.

Swap it for Fiord's, do the same - you'll arrive at your zero point sooner with Fiord's and you'll still have stat left.

If you have one vs the other, just use what you have, but you'll see slightly more benefit with Fiords.

AardvarkChips · January 2018

I may have misunderstood, but I thought the OP was going for Fiords or Jailbreaker, in conjunction with an already - existing Coward's set. Cowards gives you major expedition, 30% increase. My intent, if not the OPs intent, is to find out if major and minor stack, by combining Coward's and Jailbreaker.

Jitterbug · January 2018

AardvarkChips wrote: »

I may have misunderstood, but I thought the OP was going for Fiords or Jailbreaker, in conjunction with an already - existing Coward's set. Cowards gives you major expedition, 30% increase. My intent, if not the OPs intent, is to find out if major and minor stack, by combining Coward's and Jailbreaker.

They should stack. As in they are supposed to. If they do not it should be considered a bug and reported.
While Coward's is easier and I'm lazy I run that, but it's harder to find a different source of minor so min/max'ed runspeed (lol) should equip jailbreaker and fjord's and then use a major active buff.

AardvarkChips · January 2018

If it helps, mine has 5 cowards and 5 darkstride, so I can run fast and far. 30% speed, 50% cost reduction of sprint.

Everstorm · January 2018

Jitterbug wrote: »

While Coward's is easier and I'm lazy I run that, but it's harder to find a different source of minor so min/max'ed runspeed (lol) should equip jailbreaker and fjord's and then use a major active buff.

As a stamblade it's hard to buff major expedition, spamming double take every 4 seconds is just annoying and I prefer the mirage morph. Same goes for quick cloak, rather use deadly cloak.

VaranisArano · January 2018

AardvarkChips wrote: »

If it helps, mine has 5 cowards and 5 darkstride, so I can run fast and far. 30% speed, 50% cost reduction of sprint.

This is also what I use. I don't need the full speed boost, but the extra endurance is very nice when I need to bypass a section of my regular Craglorn farming loop to avoid someone. Or when I just want to run forever.

James-Wayne · January 2018

You can no longer increase your total Movement Speed bonus to more than 100% of your base Movement Speed.

Everstorm · January 2018

James-Wayne wrote: »

You can no longer increase your total Movement Speed bonus to more than 100% of your base Movement Speed.

How much does sprint normally boost?

Merlin13KAGL · January 2018

AardvarkChips wrote: »

I may have misunderstood, but I thought the OP was going for Fiords or Jailbreaker, in conjunction with an already - existing Coward's set. Cowards gives you major expedition, 30% increase. My intent, if not the OPs intent, is to find out if major and minor stack, by combining Coward's and Jailbreaker.

They absolutely stack, but you'll get more out of Fiords, as it's 15% sprint bonus (when it matters) vs 10% all movement bonus. Fiords will also leave you with a higher stat pool ~ longer running distances before having to refill.

Fiords is an unnamed bonus, so you can stack it with anything else that could get you Minor and you'd get benefit from each.

Also, bear in mind, max speed is capped 200% by the time you get Major, your Medium armor bonuses, Baseline Sprint (15%) and CP star, you're already going to be at or near that anyway. More stats for the win, unless you're absolutely wanting to walk 10% faster but run 5% slower for 15% less time.

@Everstorm see above for sprint bonus.

Jameliel · July 2018

Everstorm wrote: »

Jitterbug wrote: »

While Coward's is easier and I'm lazy I run that, but it's harder to find a different source of minor so min/max'ed runspeed (lol) should equip jailbreaker and fjord's and then use a major active buff.

As a stamblade it's hard to buff major expedition, spamming double take every 4 seconds is just annoying and I prefer the mirage morph. Same goes for quick cloak, rather use deadly cloak.

Get rapids in Cyrodiil. Just do the training quest when you enter and you get it. Extremely easy xp.

TheCyberDruid · July 2018

Rapids + Fiords is the way to go.

Everstorm · July 2018

I have rapids, it's way too costly to keep up, especially since sprinting itself is a major stam drain.

f047ys3v3n · July 2018

James-Wayne wrote: »

You can no longer increase your total Movement Speed bonus to more than 100% of your base Movement Speed.

Bingo. Between major expedition, sprinting, medium armor, and any swift you might be using it is quite easy to get to and exceed this speed cap without costing 5 pc bonuses. I should also add that this pretty much makes the Orc sprint speed passive useless.

Gargath · July 2018

Here an example of my stamina Orc runner:
-117% sprint cost, i.e. 117 stamina cost/sec while running and +60% to base sprint speed which is 4,20m/sec.
- Darkstride 5pcs.
- Coward's gear 5 pcs.
- Swift Warrior Orc passive,
- Well-fitted all gears,
- The Tower Sprinter CP,
- Steed Mundus,
- Medium armor all

This Orc runs with top speed capped a bit over 6 m/s with almost no cost and 2k stamina regen which means I don't need to use a mount when going from one node to another.

Feel free to copy this for your own pleasure

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