The Definitive Definition of an Elite ESO Player

DoctorESO · January 2018

What does it take to be considered an "elite" ESO player? Not to be the top of the elite, but just the bottom of the elite? Barely elite, if you will? Well, after compiling information from several discussions, it seems this is the criteria:

Capable of single-target fully self-buffed DPS of 35k
Completed all veteran dungeons
Completed all no-death speed-run hard-mode veteran dungeon achievements for at least two DLC dungeons (Cradle of Shadows, Ruins of Mazzatun, Bloodroot Forge, and Falkreath Hold)
Capable of earning at least 50k in one week week from guild trader sales
Completed all veteran trials, including Maw of Lorkhaj and Halls of Fabrication
Completed the veteran Craglorn trials (Aetherian Archive, Hel Ra Citadel, and Sanctum Ophidia) on hard mode
Completed veteran Dragonstar Arena
Completed veteran Maelstrom Arena
Has purple or gold best-in-slot armor in divines trait
Has gold front and backbar weapons in sharpened, infused, or nirnhoned trait
Has a microphone for voice chat capability
Has at least rudimentary knowledge/experience of how to tank and heal dungeons
Achieved at least Sergeant rank in Cyrodiil
Has some understanding of Alliance War strategies and terminology
Has won at least five duels of like-leveled and like-equipped players
Has won at least two battlegrounds matches

Do you have any to add? Or should anything be removed from the list?

Runefang · January 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

What does it take to be considered an "elite" ESO player? Not to be the top of the elite, but just the bottom of the elite? Barely elite, if you will? Well, after compiling information from several discussions, it seems this is the criteria:
Capable of single-target fully self-buffed DPS of 35k

Completed all veteran dungeons

Completed all no-death speed-run hard-mode veteran dungeon achievements for at least two DLC dungeons (Cradle of Shadows, Ruins of Mazzatun, Bloodroot Forge, and Falkreath Hold)

Capable of earning at least 50k in one week week from guild trader sales

Completed all veteran trials, including Maw of Lorkhaj and Halls of Fabrication

Completed the veteran Craglorn trials (Aetherian Archive, Hel Ra Citadel, and Sanctum Ophidia) on hard mode

Completed veteran Dragonstar Arena

Completed veteran Maelstrom Arena

Has purple or gold best-in-slot armor in divines trait

Has gold front and backbar weapons in sharpened, infused, or nirnhoned trait

Has a microphone for voice chat capability

Has at least rudimentary knowledge/experience of how to tank and heal dungeons

Do you have any to add? Or should anything be removed from the list?

Looks like my list of goals.

boombazookajd · January 2018

I thought it was having a gaming website and a youtube channel.

DoctorESO wrote: »

[*]Capable of earning at least 50k in one week week from guild trader sales

This is a bit arbitrary I think.

Curragraigue · January 2018

1) Got good.

End of list.

PS PvP lives matter

Liofa · January 2018

Sorry to break this for you but these are just things that every average PvE player does . There is no such thing as ''elite'' . When a player completes a certain amount of content with success , other players call him/her as ''experienced'' . If not , unexperienced . No end-game guild asks their applicants if they are ''elite'' or not . I must admit , that would be pretty funny though ^^

Sixty5 · January 2018

The true measure of eliteness in an ESO player is how many useless polls they make on the forums.

The more polls you make the more elite you are.

Maura_Neysa · January 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

What does it take to be considered an "elite" ESO player? Not to be the top of the elite, but just the bottom of the elite? Barely elite, if you will? Well, after compiling information from several discussions, it seems this is the criteria:
Capable of single-target fully self-buffed DPS of 35k

Completed all veteran dungeons

Completed all no-death speed-run hard-mode veteran dungeon achievements for at least two DLC dungeons (Cradle of Shadows, Ruins of Mazzatun, Bloodroot Forge, and Falkreath Hold)

Capable of earning at least 50k in one week week from guild trader sales

Completed all veteran trials, including Maw of Lorkhaj and Halls of Fabrication

Completed the veteran Craglorn trials (Aetherian Archive, Hel Ra Citadel, and Sanctum Ophidia) on hard mode

Completed veteran Dragonstar Arena

Completed veteran Maelstrom Arena

Has purple or gold best-in-slot armor in divines trait

Has gold front and backbar weapons in sharpened, infused, or nirnhoned trait

Has a microphone for voice chat capability

Has at least rudimentary knowledge/experience of how to tank and heal dungeons

Achieved at least Sergeant rank in Cyrodiil

Has some understanding of Alliance War strategies and terminology

Has won at least five duels of like-leveled and like-equipped players

Has won at least two battlegrounds matches

Do you have any to add? Or should anything be removed from the list?

- All of this assumes the DPS perspective. 35k parse but only a rudimentary knowledge of tank/healing? How about solo tanked Vet
- HRC hard mode while recovering from a 10 man wipe (From a stupid DPS synergizing in the group)
- Not sure why guild trader sales means anything, but I wont argue it
- Not sure why golding out equipment counts, but BiS equipment makes sense

Personally I think you can be Elite at your role, if you also know your limitations when not in your role. Meaning 35k parse and rudimentary tanking knowledge, or 20k parse and capable of soloing the Vet Trials boss while recovering from a 10/11 man wipe.

lazerlaz · January 2018

There is nothing elite about PVE and its so cringe to read.

PVE is a chore. Nothing else. After my chores are done I like to go play with the big boys and PVP..

Morgul667 · January 2018

I dont get the guild trader thing

Others make sense even if I dont have vmol and vhof yet

Why not add grand overlord alliance rank if you want a true elite with wide knowledge of the game ?

Tasear · January 2018

Depends how you play.

There's elite merchants making millions gold, but you didn't included that.

Lore masters who know game history like back of their hand.

Those guys who can name every npc and did every quest.

Anyone with master angler

Anyone who finished vDSA. (Best example of teamwork and skill)

Girl with 5 healers

5000 hours on your character.

Theory crafter who make anything work.

Guy who can lead worst teams success.

Trade guild owner with 60 million sales

So just like in life depends on how you the play game.

ForsakenSin · January 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

What does it take to be considered an "elite" ESO player? Not to be the top of the elite, but just the bottom of the elite? Barely elite, if you will? Well, after compiling information from several discussions, it seems this is the criteria:
Capable of single-target fully self-buffed DPS of 35k

Completed all veteran dungeons

Completed all no-death speed-run hard-mode veteran dungeon achievements for at least two DLC dungeons (Cradle of Shadows, Ruins of Mazzatun, Bloodroot Forge, and Falkreath Hold)

Capable of earning at least 50k in one week week from guild trader sales

Completed all veteran trials, including Maw of Lorkhaj and Halls of Fabrication

Completed the veteran Craglorn trials (Aetherian Archive, Hel Ra Citadel, and Sanctum Ophidia) on hard mode

Completed veteran Dragonstar Arena

Completed veteran Maelstrom Arena

Has purple or gold best-in-slot armor in divines trait

Has gold front and backbar weapons in sharpened, infused, or nirnhoned trait

Has a microphone for voice chat capability

Has at least rudimentary knowledge/experience of how to tank and heal dungeons

Achieved at least Sergeant rank in Cyrodiil

Has some understanding of Alliance War strategies and terminology

Has won at least five duels of like-leveled and like-equipped players

Has won at least two battlegrounds matches

Do you have any to add? Or should anything be removed from the list?

don't be a *** bag to lower end cp players

LordSemaj · January 2018

How about all the people who soloed vet dungeons? Are they elite?

FoulSnowpaw · January 2018

Those who upkeep and run a good community and/or guild are the ESO Elite. Because that's not easy to do and requires a large sacrifice of time.

FakeFox · January 2018

I'm no elite player, because I run infused on my big pieces...that's interesting.

For real, you can't determine a good/elite player by what traits or gear quality he uses.

Maura_Neysa · January 2018

Was in a discussion recently with a person from one of the top Trials guilds on XboX NA. They talked about having some core people that had sub 30k parses because of "Time on Target." While their parse weren't that great, they could dance without breaking their rotations which was worth way more than a 40k parse who lost everything when it came time to Popcorn, World Shape, Star Fall, etc. (Saint Olms, Storms and The Warriors, Star Fall are both ones I see clearly people dropping their rotations to just shield stack)

Voxicity · January 2018

That feeling when you hit all those criteria and even more yet you causally play with your wife most of the time, fishing in Grahtwood

PlagueSD · January 2018

Elite gamers: Anyone that participates in E-Sporting events.

Everyone else: Posers.

DieAlteHexe · January 2018

lazerlaz wrote: »

There is nothing elite about PVE and its so cringe to read.

PVE is a chore. Nothing else. After my chores are done I like to go play with the big boys and PVP..

And this is why I will never be "elite".

Nor a "big boy".

I'll try to bear the disappointment.

Thogard · January 2018

If you want to be elite, you have to compete against other players, not a clock.

Look at cyrodil, not trials, for elite players.

Trials = home run derby. Competitive, but you're not directly against anybody
PvP = baseball.

Orticia · January 2018

My personal definitions:

Elite player = Player who is good at his/her chosen play style and content. Can finish that content with knowledge, gear and skills without to much problems. Willing to help others achieve the same game goals if they want to learn from him/her. When his/her content is groupwork he/she has social grouping skills and isn't acting like an elitist.

Elitist = Player who demands others to play as he/she does. Thinks his/her way is the only way. Forces his/her theory crafting and "tips" on others. Belittles others that in his/her eyes are less skilled/play the game differently and sees other players as anonymous npc's in his/her game.

Love the first one, could not care less about the second.

Rohamad_Ali · January 2018

A player that turns a cold shoulder to casuals . The opposite of this one .

Beardimus · January 2018

PvP list is very weak.

Sergeant you can get with a matter of time, surely elite is rank 50, or having held Emperor

Id say all Battleground achievements - I.e. Won 50 matches, 2 is nothing!

And dueling, again that's a small number, duelist title is 100

But @Orticia has it spot on. Others may think you are elite as you are good. I you say you are, you are most probably being elitist, and those guys suck.

Banana · January 2018

Im good for 2 of those and I hate pvp. Elite I am not. But doesn't worry me

Deep_01 · January 2018

You forgot housing, crafting, mount training, knowledge of lore etc.

Zypheran · January 2018

Interesting. However, it often seems to be defined more by an arbitrary set of conditions and more linked to ego than skill. I say this because surely 'skill' in a game is that which allows you complete the objectives so therefore the most objective set of conditions for elite would be linked to the game achievements and how many have been obtained overall. I find interesting the psychology behind the comments where people claim that 'elite' can only be applied to PVP players, where goals are more domination based and again seems more like a subjective view linked to ego.

Voxicity · January 2018

Zypheran wrote: »

Interesting. However, it often seems to be defined more by an arbitrary set of conditions and more linked to ego than skill. I say this because surely 'skill' in a game is that which allows you complete the objectives so therefore the most objective set of conditions for elite would be linked to the game achievements and how many have been obtained overall. I find interesting the psychology behind the comments where people claim that 'elite' can only be applied to PVP players, where goals are more domination based and again seems more like a subjective view linked to ego.

After playing PvE and PvP quite intensely, I can report that I see far more egotistical players in PvE than in PvP. But that's just my own observation

Waffennacht · January 2018

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Maura_Neysa · January 2018

Voxicity wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Interesting. However, it often seems to be defined more by an arbitrary set of conditions and more linked to ego than skill. I say this because surely 'skill' in a game is that which allows you complete the objectives so therefore the most objective set of conditions for elite would be linked to the game achievements and how many have been obtained overall. I find interesting the psychology behind the comments where people claim that 'elite' can only be applied to PVP players, where goals are more domination based and again seems more like a subjective view linked to ego.

After playing PvE and PvP quite intensely, I can report that I see far more egotistical players in PvE than in PvP. But that's just my own observation

PvP has a built in ego check. Sooner or later someone is going to wreck You, no matter how good you are.

Zypheran · January 2018

Voxicity wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Interesting. However, it often seems to be defined more by an arbitrary set of conditions and more linked to ego than skill. I say this because surely 'skill' in a game is that which allows you complete the objectives so therefore the most objective set of conditions for elite would be linked to the game achievements and how many have been obtained overall. I find interesting the psychology behind the comments where people claim that 'elite' can only be applied to PVP players, where goals are more domination based and again seems more like a subjective view linked to ego.

After playing PvE and PvP quite intensely, I can report that I see far more egotistical players in PvE than in PvP. But that's just my own observation

You miss-understood my comments I think. I didn't say anything about the likelihood of egotism in PVP vs PVE and certainly don't make any distinction myself between PVP/PVE. I just like to play the game and ALL of its aspects. I noted the attitude of those that declare that PVP objectives are superior to PVE objectives and linked that attitude to the elite/ego conditions.

Beardimus · January 2018

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Interesting. However, it often seems to be defined more by an arbitrary set of conditions and more linked to ego than skill. I say this because surely 'skill' in a game is that which allows you complete the objectives so therefore the most objective set of conditions for elite would be linked to the game achievements and how many have been obtained overall. I find interesting the psychology behind the comments where people claim that 'elite' can only be applied to PVP players, where goals are more domination based and again seems more like a subjective view linked to ego.

After playing PvE and PvP quite intensely, I can report that I see far more egotistical players in PvE than in PvP. But that's just my own observation

PvP has a built in ego check. Sooner or later someone is going to wreck You, no matter how good you are.

Spot on. And I feel the same, PvP community has been way more inclusive than end game PvE

Voxicity · January 2018

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Voxicity wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

Interesting. However, it often seems to be defined more by an arbitrary set of conditions and more linked to ego than skill. I say this because surely 'skill' in a game is that which allows you complete the objectives so therefore the most objective set of conditions for elite would be linked to the game achievements and how many have been obtained overall. I find interesting the psychology behind the comments where people claim that 'elite' can only be applied to PVP players, where goals are more domination based and again seems more like a subjective view linked to ego.

After playing PvE and PvP quite intensely, I can report that I see far more egotistical players in PvE than in PvP. But that's just my own observation

PvP has a built in ego check. Sooner or later someone is going to wreck You, no matter how good you are.

Of course. But I've experienced far more toxic behaviour using the group finder. Actually the other day my wife (who has amberplasm skin and 950+cp and knows all the mechanics of vRoM) helped 3 new players who never did the dungeon on vet before and were quite low cp. She stuck with it for like 3 hours+ because she likes to help teach mechanics to new players and help them out. And by the end of it they started blaming her heals for the reason of the group's failure. Insulting her in a range of ways, while she didn't provoke them or anything. Now she may not be the number 1 healer but she certainly knows her stuff... you don't just get amberplasm skin given to you as a healer

This is just one example of many situations like this I've experienced with PvE dungeons, not even talking about the competitive PvE scene.

PvP has the same kind of behaviour for sure, but I don't see even half as much as it as I see it in PvE