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shacklebreaker
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Datthaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭I absolutely love this set. I use it on magblade with almost every build. Amazing pvp set, if you're going for like a dps type of magplar then yeah I would think this with an offensive set like spinners or w/e. If you're a healer idk if they run it in pvp.0 -
Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm considering trying it out in light.im currently using heavy I have a feeling though il end up being to squishy0 -
gabormezo✭✭✭On my MagDK. Works well, but I'm thinking on to try out Light Brass, because sometimes I feel myself as naked in Battlegrounds.
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O_LYKOS✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.PC NA - GreggsSausageRoll0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don’t run shackle on anything. Tri-glyphs+tri-food is enough max stamEdited by Lexxypwns on January 14, 2018 7:43PM1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.Edited by Minalan on January 14, 2018 9:17PM0 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
It's a good set, but it's not op compared to others.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
It’s not that good though. For most specs it doesn’t add enough sustain or damage, this means you still need to incorporate both into your build. Tri-glyphs are a much more efficient way to incorporate needed stamina into magika builds imo(along with tri-foods on block heavy builds) allowing you to run a 5pc that either gives adequate sustain or damage2 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
It's a good set, but it's not op compared to others.
Then why is nearly everyone wearing it?
Can you name a time when ZOS didn’t overadjust a good set back to the junk pile?0 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
Like others have said, it's good but not great. It doesn't need to be nerfed, and in case you were wondering, I haven't used it in months. Like Lexxypwns said, it's better to use Prismatic glyphs on your armor to get more stamina.
Edited by Emma_Overload on January 14, 2018 9:42PM#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
It's a good set, but it's not op compared to others.
Then why is nearly everyone wearing it?
Can you name a time when ZOS didn’t overadjust a good set back to the junk pile?
Poor mans way of getting both resources1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
Like others have said, it's good but not great. It doesn't need to be nerfed, and in case you were wondering, I haven't used it in months. Like Lexxypwns said, it's better to use Prismatic glyphs on your armor to get more stamina.
Has anyone run the numbers on Prismatic glyphs on say amberplasm versus just shackle with magicka glyphs?
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Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
Like others have said, it's good but not great. It doesn't need to be nerfed, and in case you were wondering, I haven't used it in months. Like Lexxypwns said, it's better to use Prismatic glyphs on your armor to get more stamina.
Has anyone run the numbers on Prismatic glyphs on say amberplasm versus just shackle with magicka glyphs?
You get more stats with prismatics. Including health, which is actually vital for squishy light armor builds. Sitting at 25k health is huge for shield stack builds since it means you can usually survive a burst combo even with shields down for all or part of it.
Shackle doesn’t even give 2 lines of max mag, it’s damage component is comparable(actually inferior) to 3pc willpower and it adds inadequate sustain. Since shackle also requires you to run sustain glyphs it’s just not as good as amber(similar damage, superior sustain) imo. Especially given that prismatics are really valuable on mag sorc.
I don’t play mag sorc that much though so I could be wrong, but I’m of the opinion you’re better off running a sustain set that gives enough sustain(amber, Lich?) then stack max magika/spell damage to adequate levels and THEN look to defensive sets0 -
rimmidimdim✭✭✭It's a great set for open world PvP, but duels and such, meh. But ya in open world of all different kinds of encounters I think it is the Jack of all trades, master of none.0 -
Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭Soo with this set, was Black Rose all that bad, pre nerf? Make no mistake, I couldn't go into PVP on my Stam Sorc without it last year. Granted it was HA Constitution plus Black Rose. However it still was nerfed iirc.
Shacklebreaker seems way more versatile to so many builds...Edited by Cronopoly on January 14, 2018 11:48PM0 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
It's a good set, but it's not op compared to others.
Then why is nearly everyone wearing it?
Can you name a time when ZOS didn’t overadjust a good set back to the junk pile?
Most people who wear it do it because they've heard it's a great set and an efficient way to gain stam when using Witchmother's (which I find hilarious in itself considering Witchmother's low stats, especially with the new gold food being an option).Emma_Overload wrote: »I think all magicka characters have been utilising this set.
It’s a little too good, to the extreme that no other set is worth slotting on magicka characters. I expect it to get nerfed, sort of like the old trainee set when everyone ran that.
Don’t be surprised when the fifth piece bonus gets cut to 1K magicka and stam each.
Like others have said, it's good but not great. It doesn't need to be nerfed, and in case you were wondering, I haven't used it in months. Like Lexxypwns said, it's better to use Prismatic glyphs on your armor to get more stamina.
Has anyone run the numbers on Prismatic glyphs on say amberplasm versus just shackle with magicka glyphs?
This is such an obvious comparison when looking to maximize stats. Shackle and Amber are both among the top sets stat wise and both need to be active on both bars. Prismatic Glyphs beat Magicka glyphs if you have use for the stamina, so unless you are desperate for max magicka, the Amber setup wins. Be aware though, that this is still to be combined with at least two other sets and buff food, so it's not clear cut by any means.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭I’d never put shackle on my magplar, just so many other better sets. If you’re worried about stam just use tri glyphs, I don’t know why so many people sleep on them.0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Riposte gives great defense, desert rose gives great sustain. Both combined allow for less downtime either on defense bar trying to heal or trying to regen resources.
Allowing you to stay offensive for much longer and ultimately deal more damage than you could other wise. I play my magplar very aggressively, I don't like letting up pressure for a heal or a few heavy attacks. Magplar works amazing for this playstyle, were not very good when you build us for burst, and great when built for sustained damage...0 -
Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I currently use it on my magblade. I used to run Kragnerac's hope + warmaiden. But had trouble breaking free (mostly from other NB's fear) die to low stamina. Shacklebreaker is not OP, but I wear it because I am a poor bum and I could craft it myself instead of needed to buy/grind it.
I would love to replace it with Amberplasm, but the RNG gods are not with me.
For sustain I have simphoning attacks which works so far. I have 1.5k mag regen which is enough for now. My jewels all are +spell damage, but am considering doing 2 with reduce spell cost.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's a hybrid set and therefore compliments hybrid setups more.
Domi? Hybrid.
Wizard's? Hybrid.
With tri-glyphs you're forgetting you ONLY get finite max stam. Shackle and Amber give you constant recovery, far more useful in prolonged fights.
The max magicka is also super important, you know that. You want as much mag as you can get, and tri-glyphs aren't cutting it, they're inefficient. Shackle and Amber come with "free" stamina boni, making those juicy 40k+ mag pools easily possible.2
