can you send link to patch notes? i can't find them

I was initially going to reply that it would be safe assumption that additional outfit unlocks are account wide because ZOS also said in same patch notes that those additional outfit unlocks would be available via crown purchase.

But then I realized that there are plenty of crown purchases that are not account wide but specific per char (riding lessons, etc).

The current system seems to be if the existing function/feature/attribute is already account wide, then any crown purchase of that type is also account wide (e.g. new pet, skin, cosmetic, etc). But if currently per char, then the crown purchase of that type is per char (e.g. riding lessons, research boost, etc)

So I'm with OP asking same question - is the base function of character outfits an account wide setting? Or per char setting? Because that would seem to determine whether the crown purchases for additional char outfit unlocks would be per account or per char.

It's going to be additional outfit slot unlocks per character.

Otherwise, you'd have one guy paying X crowns and getting 2 extra costumes, and another guy paying X crowns and getting 15 extra costumes. And then people will complain about not having retroactive costume additions when you buy more character slots and/or create more characters.

Gothlander wrote: »

I don't get this at all. You're saying unlocking outfits on one character is not account wide for all characters?

Outfits are character-bound. If you want a similar outfit on another character, you'll have to recreate it.

Acrolas wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

I don't get this at all. You're saying unlocking outfits on one character is not account wide for all characters?

Outfits are character-bound. If you want a similar outfit on another character, you'll have to recreate it.

This wasn't OPs question though, and I don't think anyone so far in this thread is contesting whether outfit configurations are per character.

The question is whether the additional outfit storage cap - one free for all players, additional unlocks purchasable via crowns (reference - current PTS patch notes which explicitly states this) - is account wide (like costumes) or per char (like riding lessons).

Put another way, the selection and use of costumes today are in using your words, character bound. Each char can and needs to set whether a specific costume is shown on their char. But I don't need to buy costume X for each individual character for seprate crown purchase per char.

So OP's question (and mine) is whether unlock of additional outfit space/cap/whatever you want to call it is account wide, or not.

They really should have done upgrades like how Swtor has done.

Single unlocks + Account wide unlocks.

The account wide unlocks are about 4x more than the single unlocks, but activate for your entire account rather than per character.

Danikat wrote: »

It's not currently possible to buy additional outfit slots on the PTS, so I can't check whether it unlocks a 2nd outfit only for the character it's bought on or for all characters on your account.

Normally I'd say my guess is that it will be account-wide (so you buy 1 extra slot and all your characters can now have 2 outfits), but with ZOS you never know.

But the default slot can be used differently on each character, and presumably the same is true of the additional ones. For example without buying any extra outfit slots I can have an outfit on 1 character that's entirely high elf light armour, and use the same slot on a 2nd character to make an outfit that's orc heavy armour.

I get the outfit customization is per character. I am talking about unlocking more than one outift for all characters.

Acrolas wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

I don't get this at all. You're saying unlocking outfits on one character is not account wide for all characters?

Outfits are character-bound. If you want a similar outfit on another character, you'll have to recreate it.

I get that. But the slot though. If I unlock more slots on one character, do my alts get those slots unlocked as well?

Acrolas wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

This wasn't OPs question though

I answered the OP the first time. What you quoted was a clarification on the system, yet still also answers the question.

If you have 15 characters and want 2 outfits per character, you'll buy 15 additional outfit slots, one on each character.
If you have two characters and want 4 outfits per character, you'll buy six additional outfit slots, three per character.

None of those additional outfit slots are transferable to another character; if you want two characters to look identical you will have to create that outfit on each character on whichever outfit slot is available.

Not sure how you answered the central question - are the new outfit unlocks per char or per account?

You've explained an opinion - your opinion - which makes complete sense and I have no issue with the logic - e.g. IF outfit unlocks are deemed to be per char, then of course all unlocks would be per char. But that is self defining assumption.

Now I, and OP, may very well have missed a dev stream or comment made elsewhere not on PTS patch notes thread. Which is why the question at least for me is outstanding. If you have a fact based support, I'd love to hear it - I don't need 'proof' or a link, if you say you heard a dev stream or comment that said outfit unlocks would be per char, I'll believe you.

But at the moment, the patch notes do not define whether the additional outfit unlocks purchasable for crowns are per char or account. The only facts are we have today two types of crown purchases - account wide and per char. Both. What is unclear is if there has been any dev comment whether the intent or design of the outfit will fit the former or latter.

I believe the livestream stated extra outfit slots bought are not account wide but character specific. So like a bag-upgrade, not a bank-upgrade.

The only way I could see myself purchasing additional outfit slots is if there was an account-wide option. There's no way I'll purchase per-character since I never purchase bag and mount upgrades, motifs, etc per-character. What if I decided to delete a character later - then that money would be wasted, whereas if it were account-wide then it wouldn't matter because I'd still have the upgrade.

Gothlander wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

The only way I could see myself purchasing additional outfit slots is if there was an account-wide option. There's no way I'll purchase per-character since I never purchase bag and mount upgrades, motifs, etc per-character. What if I decided to delete a character later - then that money would be wasted, whereas if it were account-wide then it wouldn't matter because I'd still have the upgrade.

It should be account wide like how costumes are. I don't get it.

Money, my dear boy. Its about the money.

Acrolas wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

It should be account wide like how costumes are. I don't get it.

Except it's not a costume. It's a completely customizable template.

Jacozilla wrote: »

well then, question finally answered.

Just wanted a dev source, not a player assumption masquerading as fact.

Except it wasn't stated on ESO Live.

You want a dev quote?

"Outfit slots are per-character, much like bag space upgrades. You will be able to purchase additional ones per character with crowns." - ZOS_JessicaFolsom

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/388060/official-discussion-thread-for-dragon-bones-and-update-17-preview/p4

That sucks. Hopefully the slots don't cost much.

VexingArcanist wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

It's going to be additional outfit slot unlocks per character.

Otherwise, you'd have one guy paying X crowns and getting 2 extra costumes, and another guy paying X crowns and getting 15 extra costumes. And then people will complain about not having retroactive costume additions when you buy more character slots and/or create more characters.

I am hoping that you are wrong, but you make quite a valid point.

It would penalize those that concentrate on one, or very few, characters vs those who have 14 characters going. However if I were the one concentrating on few characters I personally would have no objection to others getting more out of the same deal.

However ZOS handles it I can live with, their are points to be made from either direction, and a financial gain from providing it from a single direction.

How would is penalize they who have few characters?
The question is simply how many outfits do you want on the character who uses most?
If answer is 3 you have to buy two new slots if you want 2 on another character it will either be included or you have to buy one more.

Give us ability to buy Outfit slot for Gold i dont care, can cost even 1mln. I play only one character since day 1. Paying $ for a additional outfit slot for just one hero feels like a total waste for me.