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Old Guild Master is threatening - what to do? (PS4)
Paha_Vaatturi
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Here is a brief background for the situation:
Our guild, which I won't name in public, has been originally created by a person X. The person gave his GM role to a person Y, but last summer he asked it back. Now that he hasn't been online for months, person X asked it back. Now we have a new guild leader Z who has been selected with a common trust. Everyone trusts this person Z.
Now, for some reason, the person X started to ask back his leadership. He is threatening that Zenimax Support will give his leadership back and he will destroy to guild. He already destroyed the original Facebook group by renaming it to something that has nothing to do with ESO.
We asked him to help in couple of ways:
- We asked if we could rename the guild. Then this guild would still have all the players, but he wouldn't have to worry of us stealing his guild's name.
- We asked if he would settle down to having his name in the MOTD. Saying that he is the appreciated original founder of the guild. We could've also given him a special "founder" rank.
All this is causing unnecessary panic and chaos in a nice and happy social guild. We just did vMoL for the first time (and second time right after that) and group spirit is high!
What should we do? Manually invite all the 300 people into a new guild? Can the Support help and promise that he will not be given his GM role back? He would just kill the guild and never play again - we would still have to create a new guild.
If needed, we can give all the screenshots of conversations in which he is threatening. Also, _all_ guild captains can verify this easily. The whole vMoL team can verify this.
Edited by Paha_Vaatturi on January 8, 2018 7:26AM Our guild, which I won't name in public, has been originally created by a person X. The person gave his GM role to a person Y, but last summer he asked it back. Now that he hasn't been online for months, person X asked it back. Now we have a new guild leader Z who has been selected with a common trust. Everyone trusts this person Z.
Now, for some reason, the person X started to ask back his leadership. He is threatening that Zenimax Support will give his leadership back and he will destroy to guild. He already destroyed the original Facebook group by renaming it to something that has nothing to do with ESO.
We asked him to help in couple of ways:
- We asked if we could rename the guild. Then this guild would still have all the players, but he wouldn't have to worry of us stealing his guild's name.
- We asked if he would settle down to having his name in the MOTD. Saying that he is the appreciated original founder of the guild. We could've also given him a special "founder" rank.
All this is causing unnecessary panic and chaos in a nice and happy social guild. We just did vMoL for the first time (and second time right after that) and group spirit is high!
What should we do? Manually invite all the 300 people into a new guild? Can the Support help and promise that he will not be given his GM role back? He would just kill the guild and never play again - we would still have to create a new guild.
If needed, we can give all the screenshots of conversations in which he is threatening. Also, _all_ guild captains can verify this easily. The whole vMoL team can verify this.
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If ‘Z’ is the current guildmaster, whom the majority of guildies support, then there’s no reason to give back guild leadership to ‘X’.
In fact, harassment of guildies is grounds for booting from the guild ... and a game ban if the harassment is documented and sent in on a support ticket.
ZOS isn’t going to change guild leadership on the grounds you described ... especially if they see the current guildmaster recently active in the game.
Of course, this assumes all of the above-described events are accurate.
For example, if there was an agreement between ‘X’ and ‘Z’ (where ‘Z’ would give back leadership of the guild when ‘X’ returned), then that is a different painting of the events altogether.
To share my experiences, I’ve been in guilds where —
- Founding member was demoted for behavior reasons ... and then left to form another guild.
- Officers disagreed and half the guild split off and formed their own guild.
- Guildies blackballing other guildies for not running a meta build ... instead of simply talking through together whether the existing build would work.
- Guildmaster invited me to a guild of 200+ but then no one did anything as a guild and no one spoke in guild chat.
Bottom Line: Hopefully you all can work it out internally. It’s nice to keep founding members whenever possible. Congrats on the vMOL clear!1 -
Paha_Vaatturi✭✭✭Thanks for the reply!
Internally everything is OK, since no one is currently supporting the old GM. Most people in the guild have never played with him. He doesn't even have Playstation Plus anymore and he doesn't log into the game.
Z remains the GM and will remain to do so, assuming that Support won't do anything hasty. When the original GM gave the role for the person Y, he is claiming that he didn't want the 'throne' to be passed to anyone else, but I haven't seen this being said in public.
I can't understand what drives people into causing this much extra drama in guild in which they don't play anymore.
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Paha_Vaatturi✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »What's threath threatening ?
A mistake with spell correction thingy.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Oh ok . ZoS most likely won't get involved . Make a new guild . Best solution .0 -
Paha_Vaatturi✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Oh ok . ZoS most likely won't get involved . Make a new guild . Best solution .
If ZOS won't get involved, then everything is fine. The whole guild likes the new GM and the old GM isn't around. I just don't know how easily they get involved in guild problems, and when they do, which of the following usually has more weight: being the original founder or being the current leader (who is active in the guild and respected.)
Oh, and just for clarity: I am not the GM. I am speaking for the guild because I have an already existing forum account. Not everyone on PS4 does.0